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Re: 1984?

SumitonJD
being a little off topic the reason the timeline in M*A*S*H* was so screwed
up was it was made as a anti-war statement against Vietnam using the Korean
war as the setting. This got the writers confused as to when things happen.
This gave lots of bloopers timewise such as Radar doing a impression of John
Wayne from the movie McClintock which was made in the 60's years after the
Korean war was over and the same for a reference to the movie Godzilla which
wasn't made till 1954 a year after everyone in the 4077 went home.
Stuff like this is why there should be a clear guideline for when a
series is set and it should be stuck to. I don't think there are any major
time bloopers in UFO but now 30 years later it might seem that way as we look
back with greater knowledge of things past.

James K.


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Re: 1984?

jamesgibbon
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> being a little off topic the reason the timeline in M*A*S*H* was
> so screwed up was it was made as a anti-war statement against
> Vietnam using the Korean war as the setting. This got the writers
> confused as to when things happen. This gave lots of bloopers
> timewise such as Radar doing a impression of John Wayne from the
> movie McClintock which was made in the 60's years after the Korean
> war was over and the same for a reference to the movie Godzilla
> which wasn't made till 1954 a year after everyone in the 4077 went
> home.
>

To be fair, the essential trouble with M*A*S*H is that it lasted
about three times longer than the Korean War did - but there are
sometimes references to the current year that often just don't make
sense in the chronology of the show. For example, an episode in
series 8 has the characters Potter and Winchester at a New
Year's Eve party in 1950. This implies that everything between
the episode "Christmas in Korea" in series 1 and this episode
in series 8 (made over ten years later) happens over six days!

James
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Re: 1984?

Bill Cotter
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"Paperguy" looks like a real guy and not a puppet to me. I think this
is just a page from a real newspaper used in the shot. The headline on
one story reads "Lanark Declared Runners and Riders", I believe,
and I also believe Lanark is a horse race track in the UK.

Bill

--- In SHADO@y..., "memorymetropolis" <memorymetropolis@w...> wrote:

> --- Marc wrote:
> >
> > Also, I think when they are on the Seagull X-Ray, you can read
> > the date on the newspaper -- it's something like August 1980.
>
> Marc, here is a detail of the paper:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SHADO/files/memorymetropolis/date.jpg
>
> I think it's the 24th of August 1980.
>
> BTW, I saw the head of this little guy on the paper:
>
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SHADO/files/memorymetropolis/paperguy1.j
> pg
>
> First I thought it could be the head of a puppet, therefore a
> reminiscent to the old Anderson shows but I think I'm not right in
> this case:
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SHADO/files/memorymetropolis/paperguy.jp
> g
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> Christian
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Re: The Long Sleep

Shawn Kelly
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Can we get a cap from that to campare? I now have 5 images that are
all suposed to be him. In the latest ones he looks about 60 though.
Makes me wonder about that cadet thing. I have the 2 star wars pics
and 3 recent snapshots from a fan site. I'd post them but I didn't
want to eat up the last of our file space. Incidentally, the two
pics from star wars look like two different guys. The young Bespin
guard looks most likely to match the fan pics. The lizard suit pix
are useless so I ignored them.

S


--- In SHADO@y..., "Marc Martin" <marc@u...> wrote:
> >http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jgibbon/tlspic000.jpg
> >http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jgibbon/tlspic001.jpg
> >
> >.. and I think it's clear that it's not Michael Billington.
>
> Yikes! It's the same guy who played the Skydiver
> operative in DESTRUCTION... Alan Harris!
>
> Marc
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Re: 1984?

Yuchtar-2
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memorymetropolis wrote:

> --- Marc wrote:
> >
> > Also, I think when they are on the Seagull X-Ray, you can read
> > the date on the newspaper -- it's something like August 1980.
>
> Marc, here is a detail of the paper:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SHADO/files/memorymetropolis/date.jpg
>
> I think it's the 24th of August 1980.

Wow! It sure is! I never realized that was visible. <boggle>

Thanks!!

-- Y



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Re: The Long Sleep

Neil May
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Okay, I give up - it's not Michael Billington! I just
checked out the photo on the internet which makes it
plain & clear it's Alan Harris. Coincidentally, I've
been watching 'The Living Daylights' this evening & I
think I saw Alan Harris pop up as a technician in Q's
lab - I'd have to check it in one of my 007 books to
confirm though. When I watched 'The Long Sleep' on
video, it was such a fast edit that Alan Harris did
look very much like Michael. I accept defeat, thanks
for posting the photo on the net & sorting it out for
us!

Neil May
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Re: The Long Sleep

jamesgibbon
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=?iso-8859-1?q?Neil=20May?= wrote:
> Okay, I give up - it's not Michael Billington! I just
> checked out the photo on the internet which makes it
> plain & clear it's Alan Harris. Coincidentally, I've
> been watching 'The Living Daylights' this evening & I
> think I saw Alan Harris pop up as a technician in Q's
> lab -

That's my favourite Bond film .. I'll have a look!
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Re: The Long Sleep

jamesgibbon
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Neil wrote:
> Okay, I give up - it's not Michael Billington! I just
> checked out the photo on the internet which makes it
> plain & clear it's Alan Harris. Coincidentally, I've
> been watching 'The Living Daylights' this evening & I
> think I saw Alan Harris pop up as a technician in Q's
> lab - I'd have to check it in one of my 007 books to
> confirm though.

Well, I'm pretty sure it is - looks very much like the same guy,
sixteen years older anyway.

Here he is in The Living Daylights, testing a 'ghetto blaster'
for Q branch:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jgibbon/asmith.jpg
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Re: The Long Sleep

Sheila Holton-Brown-2
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Good grief first we all can't think who he is then he pops up everywhere!
LOL

Sheila UFOite


> been watching 'The Living Daylights' this evening & I
> think I saw Alan Harris pop up as a technician in Q's
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Re: The Long Sleep

Neil May
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Hi James

I was interested to read that 'The Living Daylights'
is your favourite Bond film - I think it's okay but I
think the villains are a bit silly not really evil
like most Bond villains. I know this is a UFO
discussion group & not a James Bond one but there is a
tenuous link between 007 & our favourite series -
Timothy Dalton was the original choice to play the
part that Michael Billington eventually played in
'KGB:The Secret War'.
Changing the subject, did anyone else attend the
Eclectic 21 Convention At Leicester's Holiday Inn in
May 2001 as I did & if so did they enjoy Mike & Ed
Bishop's contribution to the weekend?

Neil

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Re: The Long Sleep

andylovie
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Hi Neil,

<<did anyone else attend the Eclectic 21 Convention At Leicester's
Holiday Inn in May 2001 as I did & if so did they enjoy Mike & Ed
Bishop's contribution to the weekend?>>

Yes, they were very good - in fact I have put up a page about it
at http://www.ufotvpages.com/page4.html

Hopefully we will see Messrs. Bishop and Billington together at a
UK venue again sometime - if so, I'll definitely be there !

Regards,

Andy
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Yuchtar-2
In reply to this post by Neil May
Neil May wrote:

> Hi James
>
> I was interested to read that 'The Living Daylights'
> is your favourite Bond film - I think it's okay but I
> think the villains are a bit silly not really evil
> like most Bond villains. I know this is a UFO
> discussion group & not a James Bond one but there is a
> tenuous link between 007 & our favourite series -
> Timothy Dalton was the original choice to play the
> part that Michael Billington eventually played in
> 'KGB:The Secret War'.

Oh, well, the connection is more solid than that - Ed Bishop has
appeared in two Bond films and Mike Billington has appeared in one.
PLUS, Mike was considered to play Bond as well!

Can't see Dalton in "KGB: The Secret War" .... <shaking head>

-- Y

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Re: The Long Sleep

SumitonJD
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Actual Yuchtar
while you were away we had a discuss about the UFO/007 link. Beside Ed and
Mike in UFO, there was also Vladek, and Shane Rimmer in two also. And
besides Mike being up for the James Bond so were David Warbeck and another
regular cast member who I can't remembe just now and two guest stars Michael
Jayston and Partick Allen. And Anouska Hempel was a Bond girl in On Her
Majesty's Secret Service. So Bond and UFO are linked!

James K.


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Sheila Holton-Brown-2
I seem to remember David Healey (Franklin in Ordeal) being in a Bond
too....but someone here will correct me if I am wrong...don't have time to
check right now.

Sheila UFOite

> Majesty's Secret Service. So Bond and UFO are linked!
>
> James K.
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Re: The Long Sleep

Ron DeMedeiros-2


> I seem to remember David Healey (Franklin in Ordeal) being in a Bond
> too....but someone here will correct me if I am wrong...don't have time to
> check right now.
>

David Healy appeared in Diamonds Are Forever and You Only Live Twice( the
same ones with Ed Bishop). He is the Vandenberg Base launch director in
Diamonds and played the Houston Radar operator in YOLT.


Ron
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SumitonJD
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Healy was in two Bond films both uncredited play the same sort or role as a
launch control officer in both You Only Live Twice and Diamonds are Forever.


James 008 K.


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