Could a REAL SHADO exist???!

While sitting around watching my own UFO marathon today(Thanks
Loraine) I was thinking, is it possible a REAL SHADO could exist?

On UFO, the series is set in 1980, but in the REAL 1980's computers,
music, communications systems, clothing, building design, even spy
satellites are more advanced in real life then they are portrayed in
the show, all except the vehicles. It seams we have come to a stand
still in technology with most of today's unclassified vehicles coming
from 50's and 60's designs. Even the Space shuttle is over 20 years
old now and as for aircraft and aerospace technology, you can someday
tell your grand children that you remember when people used to go to
the moon and fly across the ocean on Super sonic jets.

SHADO's budget in U.F.O is far less then the tens of billions of
dollars spent on today's X projects... so who knows. With the
thousands of UFO sighting reports by hundreds of people at once and
from many different police agencies reporting and tracking UFO's from
close distance, it would seem the REAL aliens come to Earth more
often then they do on the UFO series.

Just a thought to ponder
John

The U.S. does have secret force. But I doubt there is a UN such thing.


--- In SHADO@y..., "John" <kision@a...> wrote:
>
> While sitting around watching my own UFO marathon today(Thanks
> Loraine) I was thinking, is it possible a REAL SHADO could exist?
>
> On UFO, the series is set in 1980, but in the REAL 1980's
computers,
> music, communications systems, clothing, building design, even spy
> satellites are more advanced in real life then they are portrayed
in
> the show, all except the vehicles. It seams we have come to a stand
> still in technology with most of today's unclassified vehicles
coming
> from 50's and 60's designs. Even the Space shuttle is over 20 years
> old now and as for aircraft and aerospace technology, you can
someday
> tell your grand children that you remember when people used to go
to
> the moon and fly across the ocean on Super sonic jets.
>
> SHADO's budget in U.F.O is far less then the tens of billions of
> dollars spent on today's X projects... so who knows. With the
> thousands of UFO sighting reports by hundreds of people at once and
> from many different police agencies reporting and tracking UFO's
from
> close distance, it would seem the REAL aliens come to Earth more
> often then they do on the UFO series.
>
> Just a thought to ponder
> John

Hi John,

> On UFO, the series is set in 1980, but in the REAL 1980's
> computers, music, communications systems, clothing, building
> design, even spy satellites are more advanced in real life
> then they are portrayed in the show, all except the vehicles.
>

I don't really agree.. While some of the technology in UFO
universe 1980 was starting to look really dated by the real 1980,
the computer equipment (teletype, paper punch, tape reels and
so on) - consider moonbase, Sid's computer brain, the voice
identification system in Straker's office and so on.


> It seams we have come to a stand still in technology with
> most of today's unclassified vehicles coming from 50's and
> 60's designs. Even the Space shuttle is over 20 years old now
> and as for aircraft and aerospace technology, you can someday
> tell your grand children that you remember when people used to
> go to the moon and fly across the ocean on Super sonic jets. >


I do take your point about vehicle design though - it's
interesting that apart from the onboard technology, there
have been no major advances in transport design for decades -
obviously things like greater fuel economy and capacity, but
no huge advances like the jet engine for many decades.

On your main point about whether SHADO could exist in real life
I'd say definitely - no. I'm sure any alien threat would be
left to the existing armed forces - far too expensive to
have to design and manufacture purpose-designed submarines,
aircraft etc and much less of a security headache to keep them
all secret.


James

I have to disagree. A real 'SHADO' could exist as military cutting
edge tech is usually mooted as being 10-20 years ahead of what is in
common use/common knowledge. Whether one actually exists depends on
whether a/ aliens exist (yes) b/ they visit Earth (moot) and c/
they're perceived as hostile or a threat (moot/depends on a threat to
wh

Actually, there are so many groups within the Govt that battle for
their own funding and reaches for control, The CIA and FBI often do
covert operations in other countries instead of using the Regular
Armed Forces. There is even an American Space military group the
527th Space Aggressor Squadron,
( http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milspace-00q.html )that you NEVER
hear about.

As for funding far out vehicles and keeping them secret, look at how
many reports are filed each week at the UFO Reporting center by
Airline pilots, police and so forth.
Keeping these vehicles secret from the main public is the easiest
part. The tonight show in the US has a segment called "Jay Walkers"
where they interview college kids about simple questions even a
kindergartener should know, and they get it wrong!

Check out http://www.deepcold.com , some of those secret proposed
ships from the 50's and 60's looks very "Anderson Like"
The Stealth Battle Ship The Aurora and X-planes, The Huge Stealth
Blimp they use for harrier refueling and Troop Transport, and the
numerous other vehicles they have been flying and testing for decades
with unlimited budgets barely get noticed except for a quick mention
in Popular science now and then.


I often hear astronomers mention things about lights on the moon
and fringe groups like ex nasa people talking about evidence of bases
in craters and so forth, I often think, "Did they watch way too much
U.F.O. or is the show all too real??? Both aspects are pretty
scary. :)

John

"Shaqui" wrote:
> I have to disagree. A real 'SHADO' could exist as military cutting
> edge tech is usually mooted as being 10-20 years ahead of what is in
> common use/common knowledge. Whether one actually exists depends on
> whether a/ aliens exist (yes) b/ they visit Earth (moot) and c/
> they're perceived as hostile or a threat

Well, what I was thinking was - imagine the hassle of running a
fleet of submarines that have to be kept secret from the rest of
the world. So much less trouble if conventional aircraft
carriers were used instead - no need to hide them, and nothing
suspicious about the need to keep the general public away. I
realise that a threat from UFOs would be different from the
conventional airborne threat that the fleet air arm and similar
train for, but in airborne mode, how different is Sky One from
a conventional fighter anyway?

Also I can't really imagine that a film studio would be used for
cover. Why not just use a naval base or air force base, where a
high level of secrecy and security is expected? So for me it
would seem that the existing military would be best placed to meet
a real alien threat.

Cheers
James

On Sun, 19 Aug 2001 "John" <[hidden email]> posted:

<< ...It seams we have come to a stand still in technology with most of
today's unclassified vehicles coming from 50's and 60's designs. >>

Actually, this probably is not the case, as there have been advances in
powertrain efficiency, quietness, and in airframe materials. However, the
basic shapes are indeed very similar to the designs of 30-40 years ago.  

You might be interested to learn that Boeing has two new airliner designs
that are distinctly different from the current passenger jet configuration.
One of them is named the "Sonic Cruiser", which has rear mounted wings
and front canards that give it the appearance of a Mike Trim design. The
other design is a triangular-shaped blended wing and body design with three
engines above the fuselage. When viewed from the front, it reminds me of
the Doppellganger lifting body.

Jeff Kuzma

I must inform you all to please cease this public discussion of our agency's
secret activities as too many people read this list.

It has taken simply *forever* to fix the image of our latest stealth jets on
the "Ordeal" episode so it looks like an older model- breaking into
literally hundereds of houses in the middle of the night to overwrite 20
seconds of footage was a big strain on our resources.

So the world simply cannot find our about the real SHADO operation.

Next we'll have too many modern Col. Foster's finding out about all our
submarines and the lights on the moon. That was really Gay and all her
friends playing with the interior decorating and getting carried away with
extrerior lighting- even *after* a certain Commander explicitly said to
behave. Well they never listened to him anyway. Took Alec to whip them into
line.

Well I digress. So you list people just better behave- no more divulging
secrets, no more speculating over what space vehicles Marc is *really*
working on over at SeaLaunch (one of our best SHADO cover operations, but I
never said that) and certainly no more comments on the technology levels in
UFO eps. Let's stay on safe topics like why Straker seems so tense so often,
what Alec is smirking at all the time, who else Straker had used the airgun
on as per "Ordeal" (and what happened to the people he couldn't convince),
why Alec looked like he didn't like the sonic pistol approach in
recruitment, and such like.

Agent XYZ, SHADO base Melbourne,
email address withheld for security reasons.

John D'Alton, Network Overdrive [hidden email]
Beware: After stopping for drinks at an illegal bar, a Zimbabwean bus driver
found that the 20 mental patients he was supposed to be transporting from
Harare to Bulawayo had escaped. Not wanting to admit his incompetence, the
driver
went to a nearby bus-stop and offered everyone in the queue a free
ride. He then delivered the passengers to the mental hospital, telling the
staff that the patients were very excitable and prone to bizarre fantasies.
The
deception wasn't discovered for 3 days.