Just got through this one today, enjoyable story and i agree, the ending
comes out of left field with no explanation. I think, because this episode talks about the Space Junk, even if it blows all the details (When they could have got it right as all the spacecraft cataloged were launched before the episode was filmed). In fact if Apollo 8 didn't have the lunar module would the doors on the third stage be opened at all? Also, didn't the third stages of these moon rockets hit the moon? They propelled the Command Module and Lunar Module ahead of them but nothing was there to stop them. I remember reading about this in the Apollo 13 book, Lost Moon. Apollo 13's third stage caused all sorts of trouble for the stricken spacecraft because it interfered with there communications. Anyway, I love the fact that they used this space junk as a plot point and I've said before on the UFO list I think it's the first time in an SF show it's ever been used. (I wouldn't count Khan's ship from Space Seed as space junk) Babylon 5 has had scenes where they pick up the pieces from various battles that happened during the show (They're called HAZMATS I think or something like that) Also the "conflict" between Henderson and everyone, while overblown and annoying at times is wonderful in the world of TVSF where there's always the magic reset button and the cost of our heroes mishaps are never known. Why the heck in the X-Files is Mulder and Co allowed to run around after all this weird stuff. Aren't there any drug dealers, murderers or jaywalkers to investigate? How many ships and crewmen do they have to blow up in Star Trek before someone sends them the bill? So these two "ideas" I've always enjoyed in this story and makes the flaws less apparent to me. Also I made note of the name Maddox which was used in one the UFO 2 / Space 1999 incarnations for the failed second season and proto-premise that became Space 1999. I can't remember if his first name was Steve Maddox in the episode but it was Steve Maddox, commander of WANDER I think, wasn't it? Now Foster, disobeying orders could have been easily explained. He hopped in the moon shuttle to fly home to put all those books back on his revolving bookcase. His jazzy shaggy revolving bookcase! (Sorry, slipping away again it seems!) Anyhow, glad I got to participate this time and to show you how happy I am with all the discussion on Conflict I decided to write a little song about it! This time sing it to the tune of Downtown as sung by Petula Clark in 1965 When you're in space and there's an alien thing that's getting in your face you've got Con - Flict When the general in charge decides to be a disgrace you know you going to have Con - Flict Just listen to the yelling of that General Henderson! He even gotten underneath Paul Fosters sweaty skin He's gonna lose! Watch out for tailgating alien things Forget the landing, don't forget your flight insurance premium We got Con - Flict Straker is such a sight Con - Flict Steve Maddox blows up alright Con - Flict the UFO's coming for you Don't hang around in space and let the space junk surround you cause there's going to be Con - Flict! Don't listen to Henderson he's such a twit yelling and getting us into Con - Flict! I wonder why a rocket blasts off the moonbase dome One wrong button pushed and everyone is blown to kingdom come (say comb) Kingdom Come (say Comb) (Hey, I gotta make this stuff rhyme!) Who made that decision Didn't the art director send the sketch for revision It makes Con-Flict the rockets real close to us Con-Flict, it's fun to play chess before lunch Con-Flict, those purple haired girls look real cute! ----------instrumental break----------- There's a ban all lunar flight and no fresh coffee Someone's going to flip up there unless Foster brings some back ASAP! So maybe Mr. Powell Your first draft includes that missing scene, where Straker and crew, assemble some consistent solutions to Con - Flict, Hey did I miss a scene Con - Flict, Did I just blink or sneeze? Con - Flict, everything's ended too fast. Conflict, Conflict, Conflict, Conflict... |
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At 11:30 PM 3/3/01 EST, you wrote:
><<Anyhow, glad I got to participate this time and to show you how happy I am >with all the discussion on Conflict I decided to write a little song about >it! >> > >Excellent as always. <chuckling > I'll never be able to listen to Petula >Clark singing that song again without thinking of the UFO version, heh heh. > >Maybe the dirty vicar can put all Phil's episode tunes on CD? ; - ) Sure! All I need is some volunteers to sing the thing, a real recording studio and the money to make it all work! ;-) BTW, the Dirty Vicar is as dead as the Voidspider! Long Live the Dark Knight! ;-) There was a space traveler named Wright Who liked to go faster than light He started one day In a relative way And came back the previous night! Dave Walsh Harlington-Straker Sound Productions [hidden email] http://members.home.net/darqnyt/index.html |
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>>Excellent as always. <chuckling > I'll never be able to listen to Petula
>>Clark singing that song again without thinking of the UFO version, heh heh. >> >>Maybe the dirty vicar can put all Phil's episode tunes on CD? ; - ) > > Sure! All I need is some volunteers to sing the thing, a real recording >studio and the money to make it all work! ;-) Hey! I get to play the piano on these too! Unless you want to do a weird sampling/backwards masking Eminem/Engleburt Humperdink sort of thing with a touch of ABBA and Twisted Sister thrown in to boot! Think we could Dr Dre to work on this? Or how about Jeff Lynn? The Dust Brothers? Barry Manilow? Hanson? And I MUST have my sparkling spring Water or the project is off! I AM an arTIST you know! I bet we could sell 2 or 3 copies of this CD...easy! (One for my mother-in-law!) > BTW, the Dirty Vicar is as dead as the Voidspider! Long Live the Dark >Knight! ;-) Anybody coming to the Space 1999 convention in TAMPA who wants to sing my Space 1999 versions, I'll be there unless the hotel sets the piano on fire! : -) |
At 12:17 AM 3/4/01 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Excellent as always. <chuckling > I'll never be able to listen to Petula >>>Clark singing that song again without thinking of the UFO version, heh >heh. >>> >>>Maybe the dirty vicar can put all Phil's episode tunes on CD? ; - ) >> >> Sure! All I need is some volunteers to sing the thing, a real recording >>studio and the money to make it all work! ;-) > > >Hey! I get to play the piano on these too! Unless you want to do a weird >sampling/backwards masking Eminem/Engleburt Humperdink sort of thing with a >touch of ABBA and Twisted Sister thrown in to boot! I was thinking of Bela Fleck and the Flecktones! At least their self-titled album had a UFO on the cover! ;-) >Think we could Dr Dre to work on this? Or how about Jeff Lynne? The Dust >Brothers? Barry Manilow? Hanson? Let's see; As for Dr. Dre, I've found it never pays to work with rap artists, I've never heard of the Dust Brothers, Manilow sucks, and the only Hansons I know played hockey for the Charlestown Chiefs! ;-) Jeff Lynne used to front for ELO, and their "Out of the Blue" album had a space station on it, so he might be doable! ;-) >And I MUST have my sparkling spring Water or the project is off! I AM an >arTIST you know! I'll put a new blue thing in the bowl for you! ;-) >I bet we could sell 2 or 3 copies of this CD...easy! (One for my >mother-in-law!) Are you counting just the domestic sales or world-wide? >Anybody coming to the Space 1999 convention in TAMPA who wants to sing my >Space 1999 versions, I'll be there unless the hotel sets the piano on fire! >: -) Then why not get someone to record the UFO versions at the con as well? Then maybe we could do a deal! ;-) There was a space traveler named Wright Who liked to go faster than light He started one day In a relative way And came back the previous night! Dave Walsh Harlington-Straker Sound Productions [hidden email] http://members.home.net/darqnyt/index.html |
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Phil Merkel wrote:
> Just got through this one today, enjoyable story and i agree, the ending > comes out of left field with no explanation. snip > Also the "conflict" between Henderson and everyone, while overblown and > annoying at times is wonderful in the world of TVSF where there's always the > magic reset button and the cost of our heroes mishaps are never known. Why > the heck in the X-Files is Mulder and Co allowed to run around after all > this weird stuff. Aren't there any drug dealers, murderers or jaywalkers to > investigate? How many ships and crewmen do they have to blow up in Star > Trek before someone sends them the bill? Well, that is Mulder's job, to investigate the X-Files. And Kirk must have insurance for that sort of thing ..... snip > Now Foster, disobeying orders could have been easily explained. He hopped > in the moon shuttle to fly home to put all those books back on his revolving > bookcase. His jazzy shaggy revolving bookcase! (Sorry, slipping away again > it seems!) <snicker> ------- [hidden email] wrote: > Just for you, Phil. > > http://www.putney.net/bissell/cases/revbcase.htm -------- ROFL! > Anyhow, glad I got to participate this time and to show you how happy I am > with all the discussion on Conflict I decided to write a little song about > it! > > This time sing it to the tune of > > Downtown as sung by Petula Clark in 1965 > > When you're in space and there's an alien thing that's getting in your face > you've got Con - Flict > When the general in charge decides to be a disgrace > you know you going to have Con - Flict Yeah! <dance dance dance> LOL! Thanks, Phil! -- Y -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Yuchtar zantai-Klaan | [hidden email] I am not a number! I am a FREE FAN! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "They want the federal government to control Social Security like it was some kind of federal program." -- George W. Bush =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= http://yuchtar.users4.50megs.com/ http://nunzie.users2.50megs.com/ |
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> I am trying to figure out which one of those 'artists' stylings scares me
>the least.. Thye're all pretty scary but I've always had a special place in my heart for Jeff Lynn. I grew up on ELO music which probably explains a lot about me! : -) I'm actually teaching a song from Out of the Blue (The album with the UFO on it) to my students! > (think I write the songs )Manilow : I fund the ships that zap the ufo, it >isn't all that egotistical Straker, no.. Ah! I'm getting a million ideas here! >(think Dancing Queen ) ABBA : Ed's so keen, to kill aliens green, it's his >utmost dream ,ohhhhhh ohhhhhh He gives them to Jackson and then the aliens SCREAAAMMMM! > (think after the loving ) Engelburt : So when things were so bleak, After >the shoving, I slapped Foster around, and when I finished rattling his brain, >he was less insane and he stopped messing around.. > UH I'm not touching Enimen.... Boom! My name is, My name is, My name is (wika wika) Ed Straker! >So, what? You didn't like the revolving bookcase url? Some people have no >gratitude-- Sorry! I looked at the link last night and laughed my a$$ off! But I was so sleepy after "creating" my masterpiece I had to get some sleep! I find I have to write these comments fast after watching the episode because if too many hours go by i get distracted and forget (Old age setting in) what it was about. Plus the kids were absolutly crazy last night while I tried to make the parody. I was jealous of Beethoven after awhile! >If I don't stop now, Marc and I will have a Conflict... Yeah, I'm gonna get in trouble too! Any other sane comments about Conflict? How sick was the actor who played Henderson at this point? Am i remembering this correctly? Wasn't he very sick and was a real trooper coming in for work at all? Or am I confunsing this with another story? >Amelia (trying to think Knight and not Vicar ) |
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--- In SHADO@y..., Dave Walsh <darqnyt@h...> wrote:
> Sure! All I need is some volunteers to sing the thing, a real > recording studio and the money to make it all work! ;-) > I'll accompany the singers on the accordion. ;) |
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--- In SHADO@y..., "Phil Merkel" <captphil@u...> wrote:
> Think we could Dr Dre to work on this? Or how about Jeff Lynn? The > Dust Brothers? Barry Manilow? Hanson? Sure as long as Michael Stipe and Natalie Merchant are kept OUT of it ... |
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Phil Merkel wrote:
>How sick was the actor who played Henderson at this point? Probably not terribly, given that "Conflict" was early in the series. It was toward the end of filming that Grant Taylor's illness was so advanced -- look at the difference in his appearance between these early episodes and "Mindbender". It's pretty striking. - Lisa -- Lisa Williams: [hidden email] or [hidden email] Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://framecaplib.com/ |
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