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Fan-made films...

Paul Carroll
It isn't necessary to have a big budget and a studio's backing to
make
some good films in a specific genre. One of the best examples of
this
was the film 'Duality', which was made in the Star Wars Universe.
The
effects in that film were quite good and the story was probably
better
than the first two Star Wars Films (1 & 2, I mean).

Likewise, I just ran into a film that was made ala the first Star
Trek
series. I haven't completed downloading the film yet, since I'm
downloading a 350M file and I'm on a 26k baud line. But I did watch
a
couple of minutes of it last night and it was quite impressive, when
compared with the old series. The sets and effects were quite
comparable. As to whether the story will hold up or not, I don't
know, but it IS an example of what can be done:

http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/

The problem with UFO, in my opinion, would be that it would be more
difficult to find a group of enthusiasts in one location that could
devote themselves to making something like an episode. But it
wouldn't be that hard to make an episode that had just a few people
in
it and just special effects for the rest. It DOES seem in the realm
of the possible.

As for Anderson passing UFO off to some other director or studio, I
just don't see that happening. My guess would be that he would want
to keep much more control over what happens.
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High Cotton
"Paul Carroll " wrote:
> As for Anderson passing UFO off to some other director or studio, I
> just don't see that happening. My guess would be that he would want
> to keep much more control over what happens.

He has no control whatsoever over UFO. It belongs to Carlton,
International lock, stock and barrell.
AT
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Jaime-2
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Hey there Paul,
Some excellent points!
Some of the *best* films I have seen have been very low to no budget.
All it takes is a good (and I guess credible/believable) story line!

I'm downloading the Exeter movie now. Thanks for pointing it out!!
Fortunately, it coming in at around 100kb/second (on the work cable :O)
...so it shouldn't take too long to get. I'll watch it tonight and let
you know what I think of it.

If anyone has a slow connection, but is interested in seeing it, I can
stick it on a CDR and mail it to you.
The CDR's cost me 40 cents each... so it'll be 40 cents plus postage!!
Contact me 'off list' if you want one.

Jaime
http://jaime.net
http://bender.cc



On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 05:45 AM, Paul Carroll
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> It isn't necessary to have a big budget and a studio's backing to
> make
> some good films in a specific genre. One of the best examples of
> this
> was the film 'Duality', which was made in the Star Wars Universe.
> The
> effects in that film were quite good and the story was probably
> better
> than the first two Star Wars Films (1 & 2, I mean).
>
> Likewise, I just ran into a film that was made ala the first Star
> Trek
> series. I haven't completed downloading the film yet, since I'm
> downloading a 350M file and I'm on a 26k baud line. But I did watch
> a
> couple of minutes of it last night and it was quite impressive, when
> compared with the old series. The sets and effects were quite
> comparable. As to whether the story will hold up or not, I don't
> know, but it IS an example of what can be done:
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/
>
> The problem with UFO, in my opinion, would be that it would be more
> difficult to find a group of enthusiasts in one location that could
> devote themselves to making something like an episode. But it
> wouldn't be that hard to make an episode that had just a few people
> in
> it and just special effects for the rest. It DOES seem in the realm
> of the possible.
>
> As for Anderson passing UFO off to some other director or studio, I
> just don't see that happening. My guess would be that he would want
> to keep much more control over what happens.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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Denise Felt
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>"Paul Carroll <[hidden email]>" <[hidden email]>
wrote:
>It isn't necessary to have a big budget and a studio's backing to
>make
>some good films in a specific genre. One of the best examples of
>this
>was the film 'Duality', which was made in the Star Wars Universe.
>Likewise, I just ran into a film that was made ala the first Star
>Trek
>series.

Do fanmade films have to be concerned with copyright infringement? Because
that's where the big bucks would come in. It's extremely expensive to get
those rights from Carlton.
Yours,
Denise

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Paul Carroll
--- In [hidden email], "Denise Felt" <neesierie@h...> wrote:
> Do fanmade films have to be concerned with copyright infringement?
Because
> that's where the big bucks would come in. It's extremely expensive
to get
> those rights from Carlton.

I am not, of course, an attorney and I have rarely been on TV, so
take
what I say for what it is worth.
The Star Wars universe appears to have been opened up by George Lucas
so fans can make films without any worry.
As for the Star Trek universe, apparently that Exeter film has
attracted Paramount's attention. So, perhaps that film might get
squelched. And that would be too bad, because it does look like an
amazing film so far.
So, as for UFO, it is likely that there could be some issues there.
I'm not sure if fan fiction is the same kind of issue - one is just a
different medium than the other.
You might be able to get away with stories or films as long as you
don't get big enough to attract attention. And that's unfortunate.
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Re: Fan-made films and copyrights...

barnard_3d
--- In [hidden email], "Paul Carroll <p_carroll@y...>"
<p_carroll@y...> wrote:

> You might be able to get away with stories or films as long as you
> don't get big enough to attract attention. And that's unfortunate.

That is unfortunate, and obviously a bit dicey. With the ease of
distribution now available for fan films over the internet, it is
inevitable that even a modest production could get spotted by
copyright owners. I must admit, I am not a lawyer either, but I work
in the video game industry, and I know that most large game
developers have in-house lawyers who frequently watch media sources
(including the internet) for infringement of their properties.

To my knowledge, if no, and I mean *no* financial gain is made from
the effort, most corporations aren't going to be able to do much
other than investigate and perhaps send you a cease a desist letter
that you are diluting their property. Under most circumstances it
isn't worth a corporate lawyer's time. Take that for what it is worth.
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Jaime-2
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Well I watched the Star Ship Exeter movie...
and it was *great*.

It was just like watching one of the early original series episodes.
The sets were almost identical to that of the original series, and the
special effects were very similar too.
It was a lot of fun!!
I can highly recommend it.
It runs for about 35 minutes.

Thanks again Paul for the tip.

Jaime


> On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 05:45 AM, Paul Carroll
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> It isn't necessary to have a big budget and a studio's backing to
>> make
>> some good films in a specific genre. One of the best examples of
>> this
>> was the film 'Duality', which was made in the Star Wars Universe.
>> The
>> effects in that film were quite good and the story was probably
>> better
>> than the first two Star Wars Films (1 & 2, I mean).
>>
>> Likewise, I just ran into a film that was made ala the first Star
>> Trek
>> series. I haven't completed downloading the film yet, since I'm
>> downloading a 350M file and I'm on a 26k baud line. But I did watch
>> a
>> couple of minutes of it last night and it was quite impressive, when
>> compared with the old series. The sets and effects were quite
>> comparable. As to whether the story will hold up or not, I don't
>> know, but it IS an example of what can be done:
>>
>> http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/
>>
>> The problem with UFO, in my opinion, would be that it would be more
>> difficult to find a group of enthusiasts in one location that could
>> devote themselves to making something like an episode. But it
>> wouldn't be that hard to make an episode that had just a few people
>> in
>> it and just special effects for the rest. It DOES seem in the realm
>> of the possible.
>>
>> As for Anderson passing UFO off to some other director or studio, I
>> just don't see that happening. My guess would be that he would want
>> to keep much more control over what happens.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>>
>>
>>