Fanderson "HD21" event

Hi all,

I just received the latest issue of Fanderson's "FAB" magazine,
and in it they have announced the next Fanderson event -- "HD21".
Located at Pinewood Studios on September 23rd, this will feature
high definition screenings of UFO, Space:1999, Thunderbirds,
and the New Captain Scarlet. Also there will be 2 tours --
one for folks interested in UFO, and one for folks interested
in Space:1999 (as both had episodes filmed there).

I guess this confirms the rumor that UFO has indeed been
remastered in high definition. Probably even the US
broadcasts of UFO in HDTV was confirmation of that, although
I really never got confirmation that this wasn't simply
upscaled / cropped versions of the remasters done for DVD.

Also, this issue announces that Chris Bentley is leaving
his post as Fanderson chairman, and Nick Williams is
taking over that spot. Congratulations, Nick!

Marc

Good grief.. :( Glad I have UFO and Space 1999 from A*E. Leased they are the
way they were made and MEANT to be seen.

I really hate HD..

April {One of the old Guard and standard bearers for Television the way IT
should be seen and watched. Viva the the near square tv screan.}

Mesasage to all who worshit the WS and HD tv. If you want to watch a something
WS.. Go to a damn movie theater.

You'd hope the Fanderson people would have some sense. Sad sad sad..

<< Hi all,

I just received the latest issue of Fanderson's "FAB" magazine, and in it they
have announced the next Fanderson event -- "HD21". Located at Pinewood Studios
on September 23rd, this will feature high definition screenings of UFO,
Space:1999, Thunderbirds, and the New Captain Scarlet. Also there will be 2
tours -- one for folks interested in UFO, and one for folks interested in
Space:1999 (as both had episodes filmed there).

I guess this confirms the rumor that UFO has indeed been remastered in high
definition. Probably even the US broadcasts of UFO in HDTV was confirmation of
that, although I really never got confirmation that this wasn't simply
upscaled/cropped versions of the remasters done for DVD.

Also, this issue announces that Chris Bentley is leaving his post as Fanderson
chairman, and Nick Williams is taking over that spot. Congratulations, Nick!

Marc >>



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> Good grief.. :( Glad I have UFO and Space 1999 from A*E. Leased they are
> the way they were made and MEANT to be seen.

I've seen the cropping for most of the episodes of Space:1999 year one.
It isn't too bad. For the most part, it does work. However, you
ARE missing a significant amount of picture on the top and bottom
of the screen...

And on the only frame captures I have from the HD versions of UFO,
I'd say that 2 out of 3 are acceptable:

http://www.ufoseries.com/hdtv

Marc

Ah-the best thing I own are my UFO dvds! I was just so
happy when they were released!

Jim Main

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I can't wait to get my hands on UFO in HD! I think they should retain the
original aspect ratio like in Casablanca HD DVD version (pillarboxed) or to
give two versions to chose from (those new generation discs has a lot of
space on them). That would be better than it was meant to be seen, and
almost like Italian cinema experience (sans editing butchering).
All the best,
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--- In [hidden email], ~Agent April Dancer~ <aprildancer3@...>
wrote:
>
> Good grief.. :( Glad I have UFO and Space 1999 from A*E. Leased
they are the
> way they were made and MEANT to be seen.
>
> I really hate HD..
>
> April {One of the old Guard and standard bearers for Television the
way IT
> should be seen and watched. Viva the the near square tv screan.}
>
> Mesasage to all who worshit the WS and HD tv. If you want to watch
a something
> WS.. Go to a damn movie theater.
>
> You'd hope the Fanderson people would have some sense. Sad sad
sad..


"Good grief" indeed! Sad, sad, sad that April hasn't checked her
facts before rubbishing Fanderson's efforts.

During a recent meeting at Granada to discuss our plans for HD21 I
was assured that UFO (along with Thunderbirds and Space:1999) has
actually been remastered for HD primarily in 4:3 'pillarbox'. My
contact was at pains to stress that not only has she ensured that UFO
(and the others) will be available in the future to be seen as they
were intended, but Granada have gone back to the source film prints
and undertaken considerable restoration on them before even starting
the transfer to HD. Indeed, going back to these films has resulted in
more picture at the sides than was available on any of the previous
releases (see Network's UK release of Space:1999 Year One).

What HD does is give a much higher resolution of video transfer. Now,
some markets (notably, the USA) apparently insist on everything
destined for HD broadcast is in the 16:9 widescreen format, no matter
how it was shot. Surely, that's no reason to be anti-HD per se - just
a reason to emigrate!

Nick Williams, Fanderson chairman

PS - of course, if April REALLY wants UFO and Space:1999 the way they
were meant to be seen, shouldn't she be sitting at home waiting for
her local station to repeat them, as she wouldn't have either DVD or
domestic videotape? Clearly, April isn't resistant to all
progress.....

> During a recent meeting at Granada to discuss our plans for HD21 I
> was assured that UFO (along with Thunderbirds and Space:1999) has
> actually been remastered for HD primarily in 4:3 'pillarbox'.

Interesting! I assume this means that they will be shown in 4:3 at
HD21?

> Indeed, going back to these films has resulted in
> more picture at the sides than was available on any of the previous
> releases (see Network's UK release of Space:1999 Year One).

I think in the case of UFO, they had already gone back to the original
negatives for the DVD releases, so I don't think there is anything more
to be seen on the sides (the original Space:1999 DVD releases weren't
up to the same standard as UFO).

Marc

I'm also unimpressed with the decision to turn television into wide screen/16:9 format, I like the square shape of 4.3, but since that decision is now a reality, I am pleased that UFO and other older series will be available in HD, for the sake of picture clarity.

We're lucky to live in an era where old shows can be cleaned up so well. In 1985, reruns of UFO on free to air TV were decayed prints, covered in hundreds of scratches with washed out colors and often looked over exposed. The print of Reflections in the Water I first saw was turning purple.

That was acceptable for broadcast when the series was just 15 years old. Now it's 37 years old it looks as good as new. In fact on DVD we see it better than when first shown.

Z.

nick_fanderson <[hidden email]> wrote:
--- In [hidden email], ~Agent April Dancer~ <aprildancer3@...>
wrote:
>
> Good grief.. :( Glad I have UFO and Space 1999 from A*E. Leased
they are the
> way they were made and MEANT to be seen.
>
> I really hate HD..
>
> April {One of the old Guard and standard bearers for Television the
way IT
> should be seen and watched. Viva the the near square tv screan.}
>
> Mesasage to all who worshit the WS and HD tv. If you want to watch
a something
> WS.. Go to a damn movie theater.
>
> You'd hope the Fanderson people would have some sense. Sad sad
sad..

"Good grief" indeed! Sad, sad, sad that April hasn't checked her
facts before rubbishing Fanderson's efforts.

During a recent meeting at Granada to discuss our plans for HD21 I
was assured that UFO (along with Thunderbirds and Space:1999) has
actually been remastered for HD primarily in 4:3 'pillarbox'. My
contact was at pains to stress that not only has she ensured that UFO
(and the others) will be available in the future to be seen as they
were intended, but Granada have gone back to the source film prints
and undertaken considerable restoration on them before even starting
the transfer to HD. Indeed, going back to these films has resulted in
more picture at the sides than was available on any of the previous
releases (see Network's UK release of Space:1999 Year One).

What HD does is give a much higher resolution of video transfer. Now,
some markets (notably, the USA) apparently insist on everything
destined for HD broadcast is in the 16:9 widescreen format, no matter
how it was shot. Surely, that's no reason to be anti-HD per se - just
a reason to emigrate!

Nick Williams, Fanderson chairman

PS - of course, if April REALLY wants UFO and Space:1999 the way they
were meant to be seen, shouldn't she be sitting at home waiting for
her local station to repeat them, as she wouldn't have either DVD or
domestic videotape? Clearly, April isn't resistant to all
progress.....





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Wonderful! Wonderful!
Excellent news! It means that "UFO" HD DVD's or BluRay discs are on the way!
Thanks Nick and congratulations for your appointment as a Fanderson
chairman! I wish I could attend "HD21", I'm sure it will be a high quality
event as everything else Fanderson did so far.

All the best,
Branko

P.S. "Space: 1999" looks nice in HD even in 16:9, although the episodes
shown on ITV HD trial run are not from the same remastered source as
"Network" DVD's. I can imagine how "UFO" (the best TV series ever) will look
remastered and in HD (it looks great even on SD DVD's if you don't blow it
up too much).

P.P.S. I am so happy to hear this, I can't find the words! : )))))


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What are the episodes that are going to be shown? I'm loath to spend
£105 on episodes I might not like even if they are in HD.

Regards,
Barry



>
> During a recent meeting at Granada to discuss our plans for HD21 I
> was assured that UFO (along with Thunderbirds and Space:1999) has
> actually been remastered for HD primarily in 4:3 'pillarbox'. My
> contact was at pains to stress that not only has she ensured that UFO

> Nick Williams, Fanderson chairman

--- In [hidden email], "naughtyhector" <rod.mitchell@...>
wrote:
>
> What are the episodes that are going to be shown? I'm loath to
spend
> £105 on episodes I might not like even if they are in HD.
>
> Regards,
> Barry

Sorry Barry, but it's way to early to confirm episodes. We'll be
sending all delegates a card with their confirmation, so that they
can vote for the episodes they'd most like to see (for UFO, hopefully
from the Pinewood block, as we're at the studios!).

Also, we'd obviously like to screen episodes that best show the
talents of the guests who'll be joining us (also, too early yet to
confirm who these are).

Finally, with all this in mind the ultimate choice will come down to
availability of material from Granada.

Sorry I can't be of more help at such an early stage,

Nick

Nick,

cheers for that - sounds a good way to do it.

And I'd just like to announce that (hopefully) a new Anderson fan has
been brought into the world at 1400 hours today in the birth pool in my
living room - to add to the 3 other terrors I have who watched New
Captain Scarlet before going to bed!

Regards,
Barry

On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:24:32 -0800 (PST)
~Agent April Dancer~ <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Good grief.. :( Glad I have UFO and Space 1999 from A*E. Leased they are the
> way they were made and MEANT to be seen.
>
> I really hate HD..
>

Good grief - why? It's only a more accurate representation of the original
image, after all. Many DVD programmes look pretty bad on a larger HD screen,
and that's partly due to limitations of the DVD format - HD tellies show up
the various artefacts inherent to the standard definition medium.

HD versions will mostly make these artefacts go away, though they won't
particularly help with flaws in the original material.

> April {One of the old Guard and standard bearers for Television the way IT
> should be seen and watched. Viva the the near square tv screan.}
>
> Mesasage to all who worshit the WS and HD tv. If you want to watch a something
> WS.. Go to a damn movie theater.
>

I don't want to go to a cinema simply to watch a TV programme in widescreen, and
fortunately, I don't have to.

I will say though that cropping 4:3 aspect ratio programmes to make them
widescreen is a bad idea.

James

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:48:32 +1100 (EST)
zerg harry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> That was acceptable for broadcast when the series was just 15 years old. Now it's
> 37 years old it looks as good as new. In fact on DVD we see it better than when
> first shown.
>

That's true. The remastered UFO DVDs, a cheap DVD player and a half-decent telly
manufactured in the last ten years will knock spots off the picture provided by
an ITV broadcast and an early '70s colour telly.