There are all sorts of stories about why actors leave series and most have to be treated with caution unless firmly backed. Sometimes production staffand even actors can't remember the actual reason and other times a "diplomatic" reason is given if an actor is thought not to have worked out or is unhappy with a show and prefers to leave. George was a busy actor - indeed the UFO cast member with the widest TV profile at the time and probably subsequently. However he was at the time chiefly a guest performer and I'm surecould have returned to UFO had he or the producers wanted to do so. I can well believe the producers, perhaps under American influence, decided notto ask back some actors and George was probably in that category.
It's interesting to see there are fans of the Freeman character and he would work well for some viewers. He has some good scenes and does interact quite well with Straker but I just feel much better could have been done with the character. Maybe Freeman needed more stories in which he was a leading figure. It's notable that at first he was pitched as a "ladies man" but that style didn't really last beyond the opening episode. Freeman's human touch to Straker's more calculating approach was a good contrast though and remained a consistent attribute. I would certaily have liked though to have seen more of Gary Raymond as number two and feel perhaps he would have been the better choice from the start. Maybe for me George didn't appear suited to sci-fi and rather more fitted to the grittier roles he generally played on British TV. Alan --- On Thu, 2/4/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: George Sewell To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, 2 April, 2009, 6:35 PM > I'm not sure that two different stories aren't being confused here. It could be, and it also could be that in this new interview with Gerry Anderson, it is Gerry who is confused (as he is the one who is connecting the poor American reaction with George leaving the series, while Sylvia on the other hand is only connecting the poor American reaction with the introduction of Mike Billington). Still, I assume that some of the actors must have been contractually obliged to return for UFO's second shooting block? Maybe the producers saw that Ed Bishop and Mike Billington were necessary, but George Sewell was not and allowed to find other work? Or maybe there were no contracts, and everyone (including Ed Bishop) was "replaceable" . Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
For me I loved George's work , but I think he looked older than Ed and being 2nd in command was some of the problem , Commander is most of the time the oldest and 2nd is younger
Jay > There are all sorts of stories about why actors leave series and most have to be treated with caution unless firmly backed. Sometimes production staff and even actors can't remember the actual reason and other times a "diplomatic" reason is given if an actor is thought not to have worked out or is unhappy with a show and prefers to leave. |
Administrator
|
> There are all sorts of stories about why actors leave series
> and most have to be treated with caution unless firmly backed. > Sometimes production staff and even actors can't remember the > actual reason Yes, and in reading various interviews with UFO cast and production team members, I have certainly seen various contradictory stories, so these very old memories cannot necessarily be trusted. For example, there is the story about how Ed Bishop injured his leg during filming. As Ed told the story, this happened during the filming of the cowboy shootout scene in MINDBENDER, when Mike Billington accidentally stepped on his ankle, causing Ed to have to favor that leg for a few days (maybe shoot some scenes while sitting down, etc.). No big deal. However, as Gerry tells the story, Ed's leg got broken and this was the reason that the production shut down for 6 months (which would imply that this happened on SUB-SMASH, not MINDBENDER, as MINDBENDER was filmed after production resumed). I tend to believe Ed's version, but it's certainly possible that neither version is correct... :-) Marc |
Maybe George looked more like an East End heavy
than a space hero Sadly he's gone and poor Ed Bishop too I think Ed loved the series and the animation side too. He looked the part, had a great American accent pity hes not around to speak at sci fi conventions |
Administrator
|
> I think Ed loved the series and the
> animation side too. > He looked the part, had a great American accent Ed Bishop should have a great American accent -- he was born and raised in New York! Marc |
Administrator
|
In reply to this post by naughtyhector-2
> I have posted my screencaps in a folder called Sound Of Silence - these
> are enlargements of the best frame views of the craft I could get. Here are HD captures of the GSP4 space probe, taken from the "Family Room HD" broadcasts: http://ufoseries.com/temp/GSP4/ Predictably, these have more detail than the DVD captures. A Blu-Ray capture would be even better, as that would be 1920 x 1080 resolution, while this broadcast stream was only 1280 x 1080 (but I stretched it to 1920 x 1080 to get the correct aspect ratio) Marc |
In reply to this post by ~Agent April Dancer~
I don't see why they could not have written in his looks as a result of an alien attack or something. I am in the US (NY) and I remember at the time it did not borther me at the time. I did miss his charter.
Dee In a message dated 04/02/09 10:19:04 Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: << Hi All... Yes, I have heard this story about the demise of the Alec Freeman's character, "because of George Sewell's looks not being popular with the American audience" a few times, and told in a few versions - as Marc said, many of the stories relating to UFO and some of the other shows have 'to be taken with a pinch of salt'. This attitude (if it is true - and probably is) is extremely regrettable, and probably goes on a lot in the film and TV industry. >> You can bet it does.. Sadly.:( << I have always thought that George gave a warmth, sincerity and charm to the show in bucket loads. His character even though "by today's standards" could be said at times to be un-pc or even as Gerry said "a womanizer", I think he still carried it off, and only the most staunch critic could have been offended, and in my opinion George was a HUGE asset to the show, and UFO would not have been the same without him. This is one of the reasons I do prefer the 1st block of UFO episodes to the 2nd. Best to you all :) Griff >> It was for all the above and more I love Alec's chararcter the best on UFO. He was the best balounced character of all of them. And when was allowed. Made the better commander. April. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
There was nothing wrong with his looks that someone had to come up with a back-story to cover.
The TV and movie industry always have a problem with worry about how people look on the screen and such. There is this famous story that when Clint Eastwood went on a interview, they didn't like his teeth and predicated he would never find work as a actor. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: wonnut To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: George Sewell I don't see why they could not have written in his looks as a result of an alien attack or something. I am in the US (NY) and I remember at the time it did not borther me at the time. I did miss his charter. Dee In a message dated 04/02/09 10:19:04 Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: << Hi All... Yes, I have heard this story about the demise of the Alec Freeman's character, "because of George Sewell's looks not being popular with the American audience" a few times, and told in a few versions - as Marc said, many of the stories relating to UFO and some of the other shows have 'to be taken with a pinch of salt'. This attitude (if it is true - and probably is) is extremely regrettable, and probably goes on a lot in the film and TV industry. >> You can bet it does.. Sadly.:( << I have always thought that George gave a warmth, sincerity and charm to the show in bucket loads. His character even though "by today's standards" could be said at times to be un-pc or even as Gerry said "a womanizer", I think he still carried it off, and only the most staunch critic could have been offended, and in my opinion George was a HUGE asset to the show, and UFO would not have been the same without him. This is one of the reasons I do prefer the 1st block of UFO episodes to the 2nd. Best to you all :) Griff >> It was for all the above and more I love Alec's chararcter the best on UFO. He was the best balounced character of all of them. And when was allowed. Made the better commander. April. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hi, Bruce,
Sunday, April 5, 2009, 12:07:14 AM, you wrote: B> There was nothing wrong with his looks that someone had B> to come up with a back-story to cover. B> The TV and movie industry always have a problem with B> worry about how people look on the screen and such. B> There is this famous story that when Clint Eastwood went B> on a interview, they didn't like his teeth and predicated B> he would never find work as a actor. The version I heard was even funnier: Eastwood and Burt Reynolds were roommates and friends as struggling young actors. They went together to an audition where both were rejected high-handedly, who told them both they had no future. "You can't act," he told Reynolds, and then, to Eastwood, "And your Adam's Apple is way too big!" As they were leaving, Reynolds told Eastwood, "I guess you're out of luck then." "What do you mean?" "I can learn to act, but there's nothing you can do about that Adam's Apple!" -- Jonathan Andrew Sheen http://www.leviathanstudios.com Leviathan of the GEI (Detached.) [hidden email] "What'dya expect? I'm a New Yorker!" -Anonymous New York Firefighter, 9/12/01 |
Jonathon, your story is probably more correct then mine :)
Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Andrew Sheen" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: George Sewell > Hi, Bruce, > > Sunday, April 5, 2009, 12:07:14 AM, you wrote: > > B> There was nothing wrong with his looks that someone had > B> to come up with a back-story to cover. > > B> The TV and movie industry always have a problem with > B> worry about how people look on the screen and such. > B> There is this famous story that when Clint Eastwood went > B> on a interview, they didn't like his teeth and predicated > B> he would never find work as a actor. > > The version I heard was even funnier: Eastwood and Burt > Reynolds were roommates and friends as struggling young > actors. They went together to an audition where both were > rejected high-handedly, who told them both they had no > future. "You can't act," he told Reynolds, and then, to > Eastwood, "And your Adam's Apple is way too big!" > > As they were leaving, Reynolds told Eastwood, "I guess > you're out of luck then." > > "What do you mean?" > > "I can learn to act, but there's nothing you can do about > that Adam's Apple!" > > -- > > Jonathan Andrew Sheen > > http://www.leviathanstudios.com > Leviathan of the GEI (Detached.) > [hidden email] > > "What'dya expect? I'm a New Yorker!" > -Anonymous New York Firefighter, 9/12/01 > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
In reply to this post by pointy100
On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:05:51 -0000
"pointy100" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Alan, > > It's interesting to hear other views on this. I'm at the opposite side > to you on this one. With all due respect to Wanda, I didn't think she > convinced in her role at all. When George left, the series lost a good > foil for Straker with the long-standing friendship between them. Only > he could relate to Straker as other than a subordinate. And Freeman > himself was a good character IMO - nicely down to earth and with > sufficient gravitas to be able to throw some weight around when needed. In total agreement there. Freeman's character was nicely fleshed out - he was a bit of a ladies' man, languid and relaxed, quite human and 'real'. But Col Lake was really very one-dimensional for me - nothing more than a stereotypical good-guy officer; professional, brave and all the rest of it, but ultimately dull. James |
In reply to this post by Marc Martin
Thank you Marc much appreciated.
--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > I have posted my screencaps in a folder called Sound Of Silence - these > > are enlargements of the best frame views of the craft I could get. > > Here are HD captures of the GSP4 space probe, taken from the > "Family Room HD" broadcasts: > > http://ufoseries.com/temp/GSP4/ > > Predictably, these have more detail than the DVD captures. > A Blu-Ray capture would be even better, as that would be > 1920 x 1080 resolution, while this broadcast stream was > only 1280 x 1080 (but I stretched it to 1920 x 1080 to > get the correct aspect ratio) > > Marc > |
In reply to this post by James Gibbon
Alec Freeman was someone who had a heart--like in Computer Affair and Flight Path(just to mention two off the top of my head)Col.Freeman actually gavean opinion with how Mark Bradley and Gaye Ellis might of had a relationship that could of impaired her judgement when the UFO destroyed Ken's Interceptor.Then I guess he saw that Straker was solely convinced that the computers were always right and accurate all the time,so Alec not being totally convinced decided to take Astronaut Bradley and Lt.Ellis on the mission with him without the aid of the computers to see for himself--as we know he gaveStraker his resignation amongst the Alien dying because of the shot that was administered to him.Col.Freeman to me played a major role in the SHADO organization!As far as Col.Lake I did and didn't like her role. The very last episode The Long Sleep she surprised me and was by Strakers side when he was obviously shaken up over that ladies death.Col.Lake was right by his side and I personally would of liked to see where that was going.She was veryloyal in that episode.I would of like to see Capt.Carlin with more of a story line through out the entire series too.Same with Mark Bradley and Lou Waterman. GIVE US FANS A GREAT MOVIE WITH A MEMORABLE STORY-LINE PLEASE!!!!!! To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:53:07 +0100 Subject: [SHADO] Re: George Sewell On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:05:51 -0000 "pointy100" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Alan, > > It's interesting to hear other views on this. I'm at the opposite side > to you on this one. With all due respect to Wanda, I didn't think she > convinced in her role at all. When George left, the series lost a good > foil for Straker with the long-standing friendship between them. Only > he could relate to Straker as other than a subordinate. And Freeman > himself was a good character IMO - nicely down to earth and with > sufficient gravitas to be able to throw some weight around when needed. In total agreement there. Freeman's character was nicely fleshed out - he was a bit of a ladies' man, languid and relaxed, quite human and 'real'. But Col Lake was really very one-dimensional for me - nothing more than a stereotypical good-guy officer; professional, brave and all the rest of it, but ultimately dull. James _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Storage1_042009 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Every time I think of George Sewell as Alec Freeman I think of an early scene in "Confetti Check A-OK". One of the SHADO control room officers had become a new father and was passing around cigars. Everyone was celebrating and having a nice time . . . and Alec Freeman is closely watching CommanderStraker. He knows the sort of sad memories going through Straker's head and is quietly waiting to jump in and offer support.
Freeman's unofficial job, in my opinion, was to constantly watch Straker's back and be there for him whenever needed. It was a quality Sewell played well. Michael --- In [hidden email], Anthony Smith <belmarbadboy@...> wrote: > > > Alec Freeman was someone who had a heart--like in Computer Affair and Flight Path(just to mention two off the top of my head)Col.Freeman actually gave an opinion with how Mark Bradley and Gaye Ellis might of had a relationship that could of impaired her judgement when the UFO destroyed Ken's Interceptor.Then I guess he saw that Straker was solely convinced that the computers were always right and accurate all the time,so Alec not being totally convinced decided to take Astronaut Bradley and Lt.Ellis on the mission with him without the aid of the computers to see for himself--as we know he gave Straker his resignation amongst the Alien dying because of the shot thatwas administered to him.Col.Freeman to me played a major role in the SHADOorganization!As far as Col.Lake I did and didn't like her role. The very last episode The Long Sleep she surprised me and was by Strakers side when he was obviously shaken up over that ladies death.Col.Lake was right by his side and I personally would of liked to see where that was going.She was very loyal in that episode.I would of like to see Capt.Carlin with more of a story line through out the entire series too.Same with Mark Bradley and LouWaterman. GIVE US FANS A GREAT MOVIE WITH A MEMORABLE STORY-LINE PLEASE!!!!!! > > > > To: [hidden email] > From: jg@... > Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:53:07 +0100 > Subject: [SHADO] Re: George Sewell > > > > > > On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:05:51 -0000 > "pointy100" <527787@...> wrote: > > > Alan, > > > > It's interesting to hear other views on this. I'm at the opposite side > > to you on this one. With all due respect to Wanda, I didn't think she > > convinced in her role at all. When George left, the series lost a good > > foil for Straker with the long-standing friendship between them. Only > > he could relate to Straker as other than a subordinate. And Freeman > > himself was a good character IMO - nicely down to earth and with > > sufficient gravitas to be able to throw some weight around when needed. > > In total agreement there. Freeman's character was nicely fleshed > out - he was a bit of a ladies' man, languid and relaxed, quite > human and 'real'. But Col Lake was really very one-dimensional > for me - nothing more than a stereotypical good-guy officer; > professional, brave and all the rest of it, but ultimately dull. > > James > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Rediscover Hotmail®: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. > http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Storage1_042009 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
In reply to this post by Anthony Smith
> Alec Freeman was someone who had a heart-- Couldn't agree more. Interesting thread. IMO Freeman's role was a little like McCoy's in Star Trek - Freeman's emotion/ gut response was the counterweight to Straker's logic. Without Freeman, no-one really dared say 'no' to Straker in the later episodes. Colonel Lake - Freeman's replacement - wasn'tfleshed out as much. I believe the character of Lt Grey in 'The Man Who Came Back' was considered as a long-term replacement for Freeman and I feel he would have been a better choice in retrospect - he was a similar character as Freeman, being driven by instinct and gut feeling rather than logic. In the last issue of Andersonic we ran an article on Freeman's role in the UFO series and it was only when we sat down and thought about it that we realized how important the character was, and that there was much more to him than the drinking and chasing girls! ;-) A very human character. |
In reply to this post by James Gibbon
--- In [hidden email], James Gibbon <jg@...> wrote:
> > In total agreement there. Freeman's character was nicely fleshed > out - he was a bit of a ladies' man, languid and relaxed, quite > human and 'real'. But Col Lake was really very one-dimensional > for me - nothing more than a stereotypical good-guy officer; > professional, brave and all the rest of it, but ultimately dull. > > James > And George had all the right credentials.... http://www.life.com/image/3062377 |
Free forum by Nabble | Edit this page |