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Loss of Columbia

Mark Davies-3
Michael Wolff wrote.

>With respect, Mark, I feel I need to disagree on that >point. The romance
>surrounding space exploration is still quite evident. If a >problem exists
it can be found in the way space exploration is handled >and funded.

Fair enough Michael.I think the massive technical problems,and huge costs involved
have killed off the romance about space exploration.It has also changed the confident expectations of the earlier years.For instance in the 1960's/ 1970's during the Apollo missions it was quite normal to think of putting a man on Mars by 1980.Even I can recall watching programs like UFO and thinking how easy and exciting it all was.Maybe a better way to express things is that we,ve lost our innocence.The reality of the challenge has now dawned on us.Visions like those in Kubricks 2001 of ordinary people being able to go to the Moon seemed very credible in 1968.

Maybe some important scientific discoverys await us that will re-kindle these expectations,like some new form of propulsion system,anti -gravity device etc.But until that happens we will still be burdened with massive technical difficulties and increasingly unberable costs.

Very much of topic

Mark UK






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SumitonJD
Mark and Michael, you both make good points. The reason however
there was such a drive on in the early days of the space program was do in
part to the cold war. It was thought we had to beat the USSR to the Moon for
scientific, military and just plain old national pride. Now days none of
that exists any more.
But in the wake of the sad fate of the crew of the shuttle there
will be many who call for a end to the space program. But the history of man
is to explore and push outward. We can't stop because of it. Man didn't
stop sailing the seas and finding new lands when a ship sank. We didn't turn
back to horses when the a automobile that was suppose to be faster crashed.
We didn't ceast to fly when planes crashed. If we had there would have been
no first trans-Atlantic flight by Lindberg or a first flight around the world
and surely no space program.
We are but babies taking our first steps as far as space exploration
is concerned. We can not give up because we have fallen and hurt ourselves
or go back to creeping and crawling. We must get back up and learn to walk
so that we can run so we can explore the vastness of the solar System, then
Galaxy and finally the Universe.

James K.



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Michael
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Mark Davies wrote:

>Very much of topic

I agree and, given my major interest in the subject, dangerously so.
However, feel free to contact me directly if you'd like to discuss this
further.

Michael

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Michael
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James:

See my earlier message to Mark. More than happy to comment further outside
this venue.

And, unfortunately, you raise a significant point. In this country
especially there'll be those who'll want to drop the space program
altogether without considering the consequences.

Michael






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> Mark and Michael, you both make good points. The reason however
>there was such a drive on in the early days of the space program was do in
>part to the cold war. It was thought we had to beat the USSR to the Moon
>for
>scientific, military and just plain old national pride. Now days none of
>that exists any more.
> But in the wake of the sad fate of the crew of the shuttle there
>will be many who call for a end to the space program. But the history of
>man
>is to explore and push outward. We can't stop because of it. Man didn't
>stop sailing the seas and finding new lands when a ship sank. We didn't
>turn
>back to horses when the a automobile that was suppose to be faster crashed.
>We didn't ceast to fly when planes crashed. If we had there would have
>been
>no first trans-Atlantic flight by Lindberg or a first flight around the
>world
>and surely no space program.
> We are but babies taking our first steps as far as space
>exploration
>is concerned. We can not give up because we have fallen and hurt ourselves
>or go back to creeping and crawling. We must get back up and learn to walk
>so that we can run so we can explore the vastness of the solar System, then
>Galaxy and finally the Universe.
>
>James K.
>
>
>
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Anthony Caira
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James
I totally agree with you. I'm a child of the Apollo generation.

In all honesty - my first living memory is of my dad getting me in front of
the TV on a hot day in Australia and saying: 'Son, watch this - its
important'
I watched as a man in a space suit - in black and white on our old (very
UFO!!) orange cabinet TV hopped on to the moon.

When UFO came on TV only a couple of years later - I believed - and I know
my father did, that by 1980 - man would have gone to Mars and beyond.

There would be no America or Australia today if it wasn't for explorers
venturing into the unknown.

As a child of the Apollo generation I am bitterly disappointed at the way
space exploration has gone - and more so with the funding restrictions.

Its obviously mare agreeable to spend government funds to commit war/mass
murder on lots of people - than to further our knowledge of the universe.

I *am* anti-terrorism - and anti dictatorship, but I think we are such an
immature race.

We kill each other in so many places around the globe.

We should be investing that time and effort into exploring beyond our little
fragile blue world,

That was my 5c worth!!!

TonyC

on 2/2/03 5:21 pm, [hidden email] at [hidden email] wrote:

> Mark and Michael, you both make good points. The reason however
> there was such a drive on in the early days of the space program was do in
> part to the cold war. It was thought we had to beat the USSR to the Moon for
> scientific, military and just plain old national pride. Now days none of
> that exists any more.
> But in the wake of the sad fate of the crew of the shuttle there
> will be many who call for a end to the space program. But the history of man
> is to explore and push outward. We can't stop because of it. Man didn't
> stop sailing the seas and finding new lands when a ship sank. We didn't turn
> back to horses when the a automobile that was suppose to be faster crashed.
> We didn't ceast to fly when planes crashed. If we had there would have been
> no first trans-Atlantic flight by Lindberg or a first flight around the world
> and surely no space program.
> We are but babies taking our first steps as far as space exploration
> is concerned. We can not give up because we have fallen and hurt ourselves
> or go back to creeping and crawling. We must get back up and learn to walk
> so that we can run so we can explore the vastness of the solar System, then
> Galaxy and finally the Universe.
>
> James K.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>