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Re: Gay Ellis's relationship with Cmdr Straker.

rlchambers
That's an interesting line up George. I'm not familiar with most of them, but Brent Spiner would be a little old for the Foster part. He's also not British. Of the main characters only Straker was "American". If it was to be remade, I'd like to see it pretty close to the original. Some of the best parts were the outdoor scenes in England. IMHO. Anyway.
Lyn

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Re: Gay Ellis's relationship with Cmdr Straker.

George Mullins
Lyn, thanks for your comments. I appreciate them immensely.

Arliss Howard and Jack Laufer worked together in a made-for-TV movie from 1996, "The Man Who Captured Eichmann", so I am familiar with them, at least, in my memory.

In regard to who could play Col. Paul J. Foster, I'm open for suggestions.

I have got to get the whole series on DVD. I can still recall watching UFO when I was nine or ten years of age.

lynchambers2002 <[hidden email]> wrote:
That's an interesting line up George. I'm not familiar with most of them, but Brent Spiner would be a little old for the Foster part. He's also not British. Of the main characters only Straker was "American". If it was to be remade, I'd like to see it pretty close to the original. Some of the best parts were the outdoor scenes in England. IMHO. Anyway.
Lyn

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Re: Gay Ellis's relationship with Cmdr Straker.

SumitonJD
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Well the obvious suggestions for people to play Foster would be any of the
actors who were up for being the new James Bond before Daniel Craig too the
role. Off hand I can think of Clive Owen, Olando Bloom, Gerard Butler(my personal
pick) and Rufus Sewell(anyone know if this guy is related to George?)



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Re: Gay Ellis's relationship with Cmdr Straker.

naughtyhector-2
Straker - Simon Pegg
Freeman - Martin Freeman
Foster - Nick Frost
Ellis - Michelle Gomez
Henderson - Bill Nighy
Jackson - Bill Bailey
Lake - Denise Van Outen
SID - Joe Pasquale
Miss Ealand - Ulrika Johnnson
Ayshea - Holly Willoughby
Ford - Harry Enfield
Aliens - Tony Gardner & Carla Medonca

Tee Hee!



--- In [hidden email], SumitonJD@... wrote:
>
> Well the obvious suggestions for people to play Foster would be any
of the
> actors who were up for being the new James Bond before Daniel Craig
too the
> role. Off hand I can think of Clive Owen, Olando Bloom, Gerard
Butler(my personal
> pick) and Rufus Sewell(anyone know if this guy is related to
George?)
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Re: Gay Ellis's relationship with Cmdr Straker.

thecatnz
Mark Bradley - Noel Clarke ("Mickey Smith" in Dr Who)
Capt Carlin - James Spader

--- In [hidden email], "naughtyhector" <rod.mitchell@...>
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>
> Straker - Simon Pegg
> Freeman - Martin Freeman
> Foster - Nick Frost
> Ellis - Michelle Gomez
> Henderson - Bill Nighy
> Jackson - Bill Bailey
> Lake - Denise Van Outen
> SID - Joe Pasquale
> Miss Ealand - Ulrika Johnnson
> Ayshea - Holly Willoughby
> Ford - Harry Enfield
> Aliens - Tony Gardner & Carla Medonca
>
> Tee Hee!
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], SumitonJD@ wrote:
> >
> > Well the obvious suggestions for people to play Foster would be
any
> of the
> > actors who were up for being the new James Bond before Daniel
Craig
> too the
> > role. Off hand I can think of Clive Owen, Olando Bloom, Gerard
> Butler(my personal
> > pick) and Rufus Sewell(anyone know if this guy is related to
> George?)
>
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Re: Gay Ellis's relationship with Cmdr Straker.

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Re: Gay Ellis's relationship with Cmdr Straker.

Clay
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I'm American so the casting would be a bit more centric, and I'm not
too familiar with many of the British TV actors and actresses


Straker - Craig Bierko (former regular on "Boston Legal")
Freeman - Robert Picardo (hologram doctor from "Star Trek: Voyager")
Foster - Mark Valley (also of "Boston Legal", both he and Bierko played
really well off each other as foils)
Ellis - Robin Tunney (currently on "Prison Break", was the lead
character in "End of Days")
Henderson - Randy Quaid (he was simply fantastic as 'Colonel' Tom
Parker in a made for TV movie about Elvis)
Jackson - Henry Goodman (played the Russian physicist in "The Saint")
Lake - Parminder Nagra ("Bend it Like Beckham" and "ER")
SID - Leonard Nimoy ('nuff said)
Miss Ealand - Karyn Parsons (played Will Smith's cousin on "Fresh
Prince of Bel Air")
Ayshea - Rachel Specter (okay... I have no basis for this other than
she's just eye candy)
Ford - D.B. Sweeney (He's just seems like a cool guy.)



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Re: Gay Ellis's relationship with Cmdr Straker.

zerg harry
I always thought the David Caruso (spelling?) from NYPD BLUE and CSI would make a great Straker or at least a great Straker-esque leader to follow in his footsteps in SHADO's top job. I know he's a red-head, but he has that intense, broody quality and the voice...he's one of the only actors I've seen in the last decade or so who has the qualities of an Ed Straker type.

Edward James Olmos was another actor I once thought would make a decent SHADO Commander, because, let's face it, half of UFO's paranoid mood and atmosphere comes from the acting style of Ed Bishop...he conveys just the right amount of moody, edgey, dangerous intensity.

David Caruso or Edward James Olmos...they could do a SHADO leader with the right air of moody/dangerous.

If it was a feature film, Morgan Freeman with a bit of a short temper could do it.

Clay <[hidden email]> wrote:
I'm American so the casting would be a bit more centric, and I'm not
too familiar with many of the British TV actors and actresses

Straker - Craig Bierko (former regular on "Boston Legal")
Freeman - Robert Picardo (hologram doctor from "Star Trek: Voyager")
Foster - Mark Valley (also of "Boston Legal", both he and Bierko played
really well off each other as foils)
Ellis - Robin Tunney (currently on "Prison Break", was the lead
character in "End of Days")
Henderson - Randy Quaid (he was simply fantastic as 'Colonel' Tom
Parker in a made for TV movie about Elvis)
Jackson - Henry Goodman (played the Russian physicist in "The Saint")
Lake - Parminder Nagra ("Bend it Like Beckham" and "ER")
SID - Leonard Nimoy ('nuff said)
Miss Ealand - Karyn Parsons (played Will Smith's cousin on "Fresh
Prince of Bel Air")
Ayshea - Rachel Specter (okay... I have no basis for this other than
she's just eye candy)
Ford - D.B. Sweeney (He's just seems like a cool guy.)

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Re: Gay Ellis's relationship with Cmdr Straker.

Richard A. Shores
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--- In [hidden email], zerg harry <zergharry@...> wrote:
>
> I was thinking about Gabrielle Drake's character and her
relationship with her Commanding Officer lately. She was a pretty
decent actor as well as good-looking in UFO, wasn't she?
>    


Richard: That is the whole point! Gay knew that she was attractive,
but at work she wanted to be admired for her capabilities. Dating
Mark was OK because she didn't feel the need to impress him. He
could step back from his work, and appreciate Gay for herself.

Ed wanted a part of his life to be like that, but felt that he had
to commit his entire being to the cause. Would he liked to have a
relationship with Gay? You Bet! But having your boss tell you how
he considers you an attractive woman in a work setting was just
plain creepy for her.


> Her character had a pretty uneasy relationship with Straker.
There seemed to be some undercurrents of both attraction and
resentment>


Richard: Exactly! Ed seemed to always say just the wrong thing
around her. The fact was she DID feel that to prove that she was as
good as a man that she had to perform better than them.

Rather than telling her that that this view was wrong, Ed should
have told her how much he admired her determination, and dedication.

If Ed ever took the opportunity to attend a social occasion where
she would be at, then he would be in the proper setting to tell her
that he thought that she was a MAJOR FOX.

(Wasn't that Ed's name is Twilight's last gleaming?)

Gay could seperate work from the rest of her life and may have
accepted Ed's advances then. She admired him for his work, but
there was still more hidden underneath.

   
> Is she a bit nasty in that practical joke she and Kelly pull
with the zoom-in on her thigh? Or is it just that Straker isn't very
good and dealing with the opposite sex?
>


Richard: She knew that Ed's first love was Shado, and she had no
intention of being a mistress.

Although Ed never intended them so, his comments made her feel like
her work capabilities were being ignored. Something that wouldn't
have been overlooked if she had been a man.

She thought "Straker" could only see her as a great pair of legs,
and great pair of something else. She didn't want her boss to see
her as a pin-up.

If Commander Straker knew how to address Lt. Ellis like a collegue,
then Ed might have ended up tearing up the sheets with Gay.

That moment could happen in a new series or a feature movie.

But once again, he would end up feeling forced to choose between Ed
Straker and Commander Straker.
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Re: Horatio Caine as Straker.

Pam McCaughey-2
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I really like the idea of David Caruso as Straker! I agree with Zerg Harry
that he can project that broody quality! I also nominate Canadian singer
Jimmy Rankin as Paul Foster - he looks considerably like Mike Billington did
during the original UFO series. I like Edward James Olmos but he doesn't
have the look for Straker...

Pam the Canuck


P.S. so sorry to hear about George Sewell......




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Re: Horatio Caine as Straker.

Richard A. Shores
The reason why we like the idea of David Caruso, is because Horatio
Caine IS Commander Straker!

Zerg Harry; You absolutely nailed it!

Richard



--- In [hidden email], Pamela McCaughey <mccaug@...> wrote:
>
> I really like the idea of David Caruso as Straker! I agree with
Zerg Harry
> that he can project that broody quality! I also nominate Canadian
singer
> Jimmy Rankin as Paul Foster - he looks considerably like Mike
Billington did
> during the original UFO series. I like Edward James Olmos but he
doesn't

> have the look for Straker...
>
> Pam the Canuck
>
>
> P.S. so sorry to hear about George Sewell......
>    
>
>
>
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Re: Horatio Caine as Straker.

davrecon-3
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----- Original Message -----
From: Richard A. Shores
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 4:38 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: Horatio Caine as Straker.


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Oh god, Caruso Sorry No!.... He's just plain creepy. An old man trying to be an action hero, and dating the far younger sister of one of his underlings, yeek!...

I'd like to see Gary Oldman play either Straker, or maybe Dr Jackson.
Maybe E James Olmos as Straker w/ Oldman as Jackson would be the combo. Oldman is good at the scary taste of psychopathy type of guys....

and just for a gag, have Steven Van Zant (Sopranos' Bada Bing bar owner) play Straker's 2nd in command Col Freeman....

Too bad they couldn't have scanned the origional acters and then have digital clones of them playing the parts again ala Final Fantasy. That's the ultimate solution.

JMVOATUBAEO,
I'll shut up now....
Dave H


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Re: Horatio Caine as Straker.

Pam McCaughey-2
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Yes I felt Zerg Harry (am I writing that correctly?) was sooo right about
Caine being so like Straker, broody, dedicated to his work and incidentally
losing his wife (to death not to divorce). I like the qualities David Caruso
brings to Caine. Straker is a unique character because back when UFO
originally aired, not too many heros were like him. The closest one might
come in comparison was Steve McGarrett of Hawaii 5-0 (Jack Lord) who
incidentally was approached by Gene Roddenberry to consider playing Kirk in
the original Trek series. Wouldn't that have been odd? In more recently
years you do see the occasional Straker-type guy but Caine is the closest I
can think of. Straker was a by the book kind of guy too, and alot of today's
heroes are 'loose cannons' who flout the rules and the law constantly
(Crossing Jordan for instance which I no longer watch as it has so obviously
"Jumped the Shark"). Straker to me was believable, and to a great degree so
is Caine - at least in his personal qualities.

Pam the Canuck
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Re: Horatio Caine as Straker.

Pam McCaughey-2
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Just had to chime in again - I don't find Caruso creepy - but I don't find
EJ Olmos a good suggestion for Freeman - he plays too broody for Freeman who
seems to have none of the characteristics of Straker - in fact one wonders
just HOW two such disparate people became good buds. The Final Fantasy
suggestion was definitely interesting - but alas not possible.

Pam the Canuck


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Jumping the shark...

Clay
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I've seen that a bunch lately: "Jump the shark". What does that exactly
mean? If it's in reference to Fonzi jumping over a shark on Happy Days
and the fortelling demise of a show, then how can we explain that Happy
Days had about 100 more episodes after that one?


Just a thought.



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Re: Jumping the shark...

Marc Martin
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Clay wrote:
> I've seen that a bunch lately: "Jump the shark". What does that exactly
> mean? If it's in reference to Fonzi jumping over a shark on Happy Days
> and the fortelling demise of a show, then how can we explain that Happy
> Days had about 100 more episodes after that one?

"Jumping the Shark" usually refers to some point in a television series
where a good show becomes a bad show. And yes, it does refer
to a specific episode of "Happy Days".

As for UFO, I don't think it ever "jumped the shark", although some
people may choose a Pinewood Studios episode (e.g. Reflections in the
Water?)

Marc
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Re: Horatio Caine as Straker.

Anthony Smith
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I was reading a magazine the other day and found the perfect Alec
Freeman!!His name is Stephen Frye a british actor--who resembles George
Sewell.
I would have Jennifer Ellison(British model and actress)play Gay Ellis.I of
course would play Mark Bradley(lol--I wish!!)seriously Mark Bradley would be
Tyson Beckford .Shadow Operative Ayshea would be played by Scary
Spice(Melanie Brown) and Joan Harrington would be Ginger Spice(Geri
Halliwell--although I was and am still in love with Antonia Ellis because of
her fiesty attitude towards Straker!!).General Henderson would be played by
retired Senator from Texas Fred Thompson.Ed Straker would be Hugh Jackman
from Ex-Men(Wolverine).Mary would be Kate Winslet.And as Paul Foster it
would be Billy Zane.Captain Peter Carlin would be Either Freddie Prinze Jr.
or Mario Lopez(from Saved by the bell).Keith Ford would be????Any help with
this one??
This would be the line up and acceptable to me.David Caruso to me(personal
opinion-don't shoot me ha-ha)couldn't fitinto the role of Ed Straker--no
where near Ed Bishop!!I'm not a hater,thats just a factual opinion!Leave him
on CSI or reruns of NYPD Blue!!
Did anyone revamp the vehicles used in the show(update
them)??Sky-diver(and sky 1), Interceptors,Straker and Fosters cars(they
would hopefully look like the car used in the movie that Will Smith did
"I-Robot",I believe that was an Audi),The Mobiles and all the planes??
Look were moving right along and hopefully Mark Martin has connections to
get all of "US"fans a shot at UFO getting on Sci-Fi just like Galactica
with the excellent scrips,but without the change of genders for characters
and colors--keep them how we remember them(StarBuck is a girl now and Boomer
is a asian girl--both of those characters are men!Etc.)
Hopefullly the powers that be will give us what we ask for and make this a
"GO"on production!!??
Always a loyal fan of UFO,
Anthony


>From: Pamela McCaughey <[hidden email]>
>Reply-To: [hidden email]
>To: <[hidden email]>
>Subject: [SHADO] Re: Horatio Caine as Straker.
>Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 19:31:51 -0700
>
>
>
>Just had to chime in again - I don't find Caruso creepy - but I don't find
>EJ Olmos a good suggestion for Freeman - he plays too broody for Freeman
>who
>seems to have none of the characteristics of Straker - in fact one wonders
>just HOW two such disparate people became good buds. The Final Fantasy
>suggestion was definitely interesting - but alas not possible.
>
>Pam the Canuck
>
>
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Re: Horatio Caine as Straker.

Richard A. Shores
--- In [hidden email], "Anthony Smith" <belmarbadboy@...>
wrote:
>
> I was reading a magazine the other day and found the perfect Alec
> Freeman!!His name is Stephen Frye a british actor--who resembles
George
> Sewell.


I think that is one thing that we should try to avoid. There will
never be another George Sewell. There will never been another Ed
Bishop. We should not try to create a copy.


> General Henderson would be played by retired Senator from Texas
Fred Thompson.>


Interesting choice. I would be interested in seeing what he could
do with the part.  


David Caruso to me(personal
> opinion-don't shoot me ha-ha)couldn't fitinto the role of Ed
Straker--no where near Ed Bishop!!>


My point exactly. Horatio Caine would give me the creeps as a boss
or even as a dinner guest. There is a lack of emotion expressed,
and something hidden in the background that he is not telling. A
tragic past brought he to where he is today.

David Caruso could never be an Ed Bishop. But he could be an
compelling Ed Straker.

Richard

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Re: Horatio Caine as Straker.

Clay
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Thompson was actually the senator from Tennessee. Tennessee, Texas...
there's almost no difference, except that in Tennessee the family tree
tends to have few branches. (I'm joking, of course).

Clay


--- Anthony Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I was reading a magazine the other day and found the perfect Alec
> Freeman!!His name is Stephen Frye a british actor--who resembles
> George
> Sewell.
> I would have Jennifer Ellison(British model and actress)play Gay
> Ellis.I of
> course would play Mark Bradley(lol--I wish!!)seriously Mark Bradley
> would be
> Tyson Beckford .Shadow Operative Ayshea would be played by Scary
> Spice(Melanie Brown) and Joan Harrington would be Ginger Spice(Geri
> Halliwell--although I was and am still in love with Antonia Ellis
> because of
> her fiesty attitude towards Straker!!).General Henderson would be
> played by
> retired Senator from Texas Fred Thompson.Ed Straker would be Hugh
> Jackman
> from Ex-Men(Wolverine).Mary would be Kate Winslet.And as Paul Foster
> it
> would be Billy Zane.Captain Peter Carlin would be Either Freddie
> Prinze Jr.
> or Mario Lopez(from Saved by the bell).Keith Ford would be????Any
> help with
> this one??
> This would be the line up and acceptable to me.David Caruso to
> me(personal
> opinion-don't shoot me ha-ha)couldn't fitinto the role of Ed
> Straker--no
> where near Ed Bishop!!I'm not a hater,thats just a factual
> opinion!Leave him
> on CSI or reruns of NYPD Blue!!
> Did anyone revamp the vehicles used in the show(update
> them)??Sky-diver(and sky 1), Interceptors,Straker and Fosters
> cars(they
> would hopefully look like the car used in the movie that Will Smith
> did
> "I-Robot",I believe that was an Audi),The Mobiles and all the
> planes??
> Look were moving right along and hopefully Mark Martin has
> connections to
> get all of "US"fans a shot at UFO getting on Sci-Fi just like
> Galactica
> with the excellent scrips,but without the change of genders for
> characters
> and colors--keep them how we remember them(StarBuck is a girl now and
> Boomer
> is a asian girl--both of those characters are men!Etc.)
> Hopefullly the powers that be will give us what we ask for and make
> this a
> "GO"on production!!??
> Always a loyal fan of UFO,
> Anthony
>
>
> >From: Pamela McCaughey <[hidden email]>
> >Reply-To: [hidden email]
> >To: <[hidden email]>
> >Subject: [SHADO] Re: Horatio Caine as Straker.
> >Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 19:31:51 -0700
> >
> >
> >
> >Just had to chime in again - I don't find Caruso creepy - but I
> don't find
> >EJ Olmos a good suggestion for Freeman - he plays too broody for
> Freeman
> >who
> >seems to have none of the characteristics of Straker - in fact one
> wonders
> >just HOW two such disparate people became good buds. The Final
> Fantasy
> >suggestion was definitely interesting - but alas not possible.
> >
> >Pam the Canuck
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: Jumping the shark...

Pam McCaughey-2
In reply to this post by Marc Martin
There is actually a website www.jumpingtheshark.com I believe is the address
and I have been on it to check it out. Yes, the term does refer back to an
eps of Happy Days and no I don't think UFO jumped the shark unless you count
the eps The Cat With 10 Lives! Tons of shows have jumped the shark, Crossing
Jordan, CSI: Miami, CSI: NY and others unfortunately. I think a show should
end at a high point, not be permitted to get worse and worse until even the
one time fans are glad to see it die.

I know this is OT, but I read just recently that an X-Files movie is in the
works to pick up where the series finale ended 4 yrs ago - yipee!

Pam the Canuck

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