New Poll, your opinions would be appreciated

I have set a new poll on here at
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/SHADO/surveys?id=2646151
and would appreciate UFO fans input:

"I have been working with a number of others with the possibility of a
'UFO2', as a remake/recreation. Given the options, and the fact that
we could not use original cast members, which would you prefer to see?"

Please consider carefully your choice, not just as a personal opinion
based on the show, but how a new show would appeal to viewers that had
never seen the original. Your help is greatly valued.
Regards,
Rob N.

> "I have been working with a number of others with the possibility of a
> 'UFO2', as a remake/recreation. Given the options, and the fact that
> we could not use original cast members, which would you prefer to see?"

I don't see the option that I would prefer -- keep it years in the
future,
not in the present day...

Marc

Marc Martin wrote:
>> "I have been working with a number of others with the possibility of a
>> 'UFO2', as a remake/recreation. Given the options, and the fact that
>> we could not use original cast members, which would you prefer to see?"
>
> I don't see the option that I would prefer -- keep it years in the
> future,
> not in the present day...
>
> Marc

Hey, I'm still here, pushing for that for about 10 years.

Go for it (the current writers will eventually run out of lame-brane
ideas) and by default they'll "accidentally" find UFO.

Once the current reality show trend ends, perhaps.

The current reality show concept is dying, although certain forms of it
are worth considering. What is sucking now is the total subservience to
the concept where morons meet morons and expect the audience to watch
morons interacting.

This will improve but possibly not in our lifetimes.

Then again, please explain soap operas which were designed to keep "at
home" mothers and wives busy. Has the concept of Oprah improved things?

Yeah, I'm trolling. A bit, but not so much if you think about it.

Paul

You know, geared to adults, it might make a good fixed-run anime series. I bet Production I.G or Aniplex could do it justice in 26 episodes or so... the bonus being that you can use actors of any age, since voices don't change as much as appearances...

Can you give some good examples of adult anime? I have only seen the stuff
geared toward children and one adult one that I believe was called "Wicked
City". We have several anime channels on our cable system, but hey, women of my
advanced years usually ignores that stuff. :-))

For the time being, I kind of like the idea of a live show with good
effects. To bridge the gap, I think Lt. (Now Commander?) Ellis in would be great if
Gabrielle Drake was interested.

Wendy


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You know, geared to adults, it might make a good fixed-run anime series. I
bet Production I.G or Aniplex could do it justice in 26 episodes or so... the
bonus being that you can use actors of any age, since voices don't change as
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Just my personal opinion, but I think that an anime type series would appeal more to younger adults, rather than us middle-agers. Doesn't necessarily make it a bad idea, just depends on the targeted demographic. : )

Jeff

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Can you give some good examples of adult anime? I have only seen the stuff
geared toward children and one adult one that I believe was called "Wicked
City". We have several anime channels on our cable system, but hey, women of my
advanced years usually ignores that stuff. :-))

For the time being, I kind of like the idea of a live show with good
effects. To bridge the gap, I think Lt. (Now Commander?) Ellis in would be great if
Gabrielle Drake was interested.

Wendy


In a message dated 1/26/2008 1:38:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

You know, geared to adults, it might make a good fixed-run anime series. I
bet Production I.G or Aniplex could do it justice in 26 episodes or so... the
bonus being that you can use actors of any age, since voices don't change as
much as appearances.Yo

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Yeah, but I have to admit I'm a little past the 18-35 group, and I can only
think about some great remake's like "Battlestar Galactica" and think that and
updated UFO could be just as good. But on the basis of some recommendations
that I have saved, I will check out some adult anime and I might even change
my stubborn mind. :-)

I guess to see new episodes of the show in any form would be a pleasure as
long as it is done well. I think I have read everything in the "Shadow Library"
3 times over.

Wendy


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Just my personal opinion, but I think that an anime type series would appeal
more to younger adults, rather than us middle-agers. Doesn't necessarily
make it a bad idea, just depends on the targeted demographic. : )

Jeff





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But why remake anything? The new Galactica is great,
but then the original was formulaic pap. UFO is a
great series, so don't remake it. Producer's need to
come up with new material, and we should not encourage
them to recyle old material rather than give us new
stuff.

Rick

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But the nature of entertainment is to recycle and imitate, because at least
in America, your are catering to the baby boom generation who thrives on
imitation and nostalgia. How many "CSI's" and "Law and Order" variations do we
have? There are a lot of US television show's that are almost carbon copies of
British shows. (EX: "ER" is a direct swipe of "Casualty") There are no
original show's on Broadway. In fact the newest show is "Xanadu" - a copy of a bad
movie.

New material means people must be creative and take risks - something no one
wants to do anymore because failure costs too much.

I'm not saying you don't have a good point, just pointing out the reality of
the situation. If someone want's to remake "UFO" then all we can do is hope
that it's a good one. I still get sick when I think of the new "Bionic Woman"
series. The writer's strike was a blessing where that was concerned.

Peace, Wendy


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But why remake anything? The new Galactica is great,
but then the original was formulaic pap. UFO is a
great series, so don't remake it. Producer's need to
come up with new material, and we should not encourage
them to recyle old material rather than give us new
stuff.

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Wendy wrote:

>Can you give some good examples of adult anime? I have only seen the stuff
>geared toward children and one adult one that I believe was called "Wicked
>City". We have several anime channels on our cable system, but hey, women of my
>advanced years usually ignores that stuff. :-))

Um, in terms of what's running now (currently licensed) things like the plot-twist-every-5-minutes Death Note series come to mind. As for action-adventure stuff, Ghost in the Shell, both the films and the two TV series, would serve as a good model for high-tech, cerebral storytelling punctuated by bursts of action and violence -- in fact, the upcoming Appleseed: Ex Machina movie (produced by John Woo) looks promising as well. Cowboy Bebop kind of got the ball rolling on adult anime outside of Japan, and the recent Paranoia Agent series did a good job of capturing the creepy otherworldliness that UFO sometimes leaned towards (especially the Earth-bound mystery episodes where a UFO slips past the SHADO defences and lands)...


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The danger is, when a show is really good, like UFO, it's a lot harder to remake it better or even as good. With Battlestar Galactica it was a lot easier to make a better version (just my opinion). Television today, like so many other things, has been over analyzed by marketing experts to generate top advertising dollars. Contrary to belief this does not always mean making the "best" show possible. Production costs and quality material is often sacrificed for sensationalism which can bring in more viewers. Of course, if the show were in the control of Gerry Anderson, or someone with similar ethics, it could be fantastic. I just see it far more likely to go the other way which would be sad. But, this is all just my opinion.
Brian C.


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Yeah, but I have to admit I'm a little past the 18-35 group, and I can only
think about some great remake's like "Battlestar Galactica" and think that and
updated UFO could be just as good. But on the basis of some recommendations
that I have saved, I will check out some adult anime and I might even change
my stubborn mind. :-)

I guess to see new episodes of the show in any form would be a pleasure as
long as it is done well. I think I have read everything in the "Shadow Library"
3 times over.

Wendy


In a message dated 1/26/2008 11:33:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Just my personal opinion, but I think that an anime type series would appeal
more to younger adults, rather than us middle-agers. Doesn't necessarily
make it a bad idea, just depends on the targeted demographic. : )

Jeff

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Just because it is often done, does not mean it should
be done. UFO was a failure in the USA - like 90% of
the ITC series. If it had been successful, then more
seasons would have been forthcoming. It is also a
forgotten cult series, long since passed from the
public eye, so there is no reason to bring it back; at
least from the point of view of US producers.

Rick

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I agree with one thing you said that UFO was a cult classic that only hardcore fans remember. But that being said there is not reason not to make a new series with fresh new material. Afte all shows like Stargate SG1 and Stargate Atlanitis found and adudience in syndication just like the new Battlestar and Babylon Five that ran for many years because of a viewer base from cable and sattelite. Then theres is also the direct to DVD format that has also been successful in bring back series take Family Guy and Futurama. I believe that if producers of a new UFO goes that route they could not only bring in a new series, but from time to time bring back some of the orginal cast members like in the Star Trek NG series. It could work all we need is a good script and a trip to the next NATPE convention or NAB in the US and pitch the concept.

That's All Folks

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Just because it is often done, does not mean it should
be done. UFO was a failure in the USA - like 90% of
the ITC series. If it had been successful, then more
seasons would have been forthcoming. It is also a
forgotten cult series, long since passed from the
public eye, so there is no reason to bring it back; at
least from the point of view of US producers.

Rick

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Rick:

Another excellent point! But I always thought that the problems with keeping
the show on the air in the 70's was (1) The long break in production where
they couldn't keep continuity and (2) By that time Gerry Anderson was already
looking more at Space 1999 as having a better chance at succeeding. ( I admit
to liking the first season of Space 1999, the second season was awful, IMHO)

I will leave it to the resident experts to correct any of my bad history,
and I thank you for a nice debate and the anime reconditions from everyone else.

Peace, Wendy


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[hidden email] writes:

Just because it is often done, does not mean it should
be done. UFO was a failure in the USA - like 90% of
the ITC series. If it had been successful, then more
seasons would have been forthcoming. It is also a
forgotten cult series, long since passed from the
public eye, so there is no reason to bring it back; at
least from the point of view of US producers.

Rick





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> But the nature of entertainment is to recycle and
> imitate, because at least
> in America, your are catering to the baby boom
> generation who thrives on
> imitation and nostalgia.

"Howard Lee" <[hidden email] wrote:

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Well, if this were to happen, it better happen soon, as many of the original actors from the principal roles are, sadly, gone.

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> But the nature of entertainment is to recycle and imitate, because at
> least
> in America, your are catering to the baby boom generation who thrives on
> imitation and nostalgia.
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