Psychobombs etc

That was always at the back of my mind whenever I saw that episode, too. But it is never mentioned one way or the other. Still, one can't help wondering...

mps137 <[hidden email]> wrote:I think the final part of the episode where we see Gabrielle Drake in
her skimpy mini being used to make a fool out of Straker was a
deliberate way for her to get back at Straker. I think today his
approaches would probably be seen as harassment in our PC world.

Nice scene mind you. We never got enough of Ms Drake as far as I'm
concerned.

One thing on that episode. I always got the impression that the
scientist who worked on the project (the one who wanted more money for
his other projects) had sabotarged the camera in the probe deliberatly
to get back at Straker.

Martin


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Well always glad to learn someone something from my vast store of TV and Film
trivia.
If the reverse grip isn't do to having to use left handed clubs( and yes it
sometimes happens that the correct prop isn't available and the wrong one has
to be used) then it just might be that Ed Bishop rather than not having played
golf or other sports might be very good at them and is just doing his to throw
his game off. I seem to remember something about Straker not knowing how to
golf. So this is perhaps Bishops idea of how someone who doesn't know how to
play the game would do it? Just a thought. Oh by the way in Pride of the
Yankee they had to reverse the number on Cooper's uniform so it did not read
backward when they reversed the film.

James K.


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Quite true that UFO for reasons of budget and story constraints had their
aliens landing in the UK but us fan fic writers have the luxury of having
UFOs land in Russia, Mexico, Egypt, France, et al....PAM

You're right about the lesson in perspective. I was 10 when I first saw it also, and did find that aspect of the episode quite interesting. And I happened to like Gabrielle's leg when I was ten. I obviously didn't know much about the opposite sex at the age of 10, but I knew I wanted one!

Jeff

legg bryan <[hidden email]> wrote:

Actually I do like this episode for the lesson in perspective. I was only a child of 10 when the show aired so I could have cared less for Gabrielle Drake's leg. I thought it was cool that the city was actually a dust mote or whatever it was. Now as an adult i can appreciate Gabrielle Drake's leg and the lesson on perspective is still cool to me. I do think that Straker was giving Ms Drake the eye but I think he realised that she was too young for him plus Foster would have more time to give her. Just my opinion. bsl

I don't recall anything about Straker not being able to golf. Not saying it's not true, just that I don't recall it! If so, it must have been from a different episode, or I missed something.

I guess it's POSSIBLE that Ed is a good golfer, and was just trying to throw his game off, but I personally see no logic in doing so. If I was appearing in something that millions of people were going to see, I certainly wouldn't intentionally grip a golf club the wrong way for fear of looking like a goof.
No offense intended, but I think you're fishin'! ; )

Jeff





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Well always glad to learn someone something from my vast store of TV and Film
trivia.
If the reverse grip isn't do to having to use left handed clubs( and yes it
sometimes happens that the correct prop isn't available and the wrong one has
to be used) then it just might be that Ed Bishop rather than not having played
golf or other sports might be very good at them and is just doing his to throw
his game off. I seem to remember something about Straker not knowing how to
golf. So this is perhaps Bishops idea of how someone who doesn't know how to
play the game would do it? Just a thought. Oh by the way in Pride of the
Yankee they had to reverse the number on Cooper's uniform so it did not read
backward when they reversed the film.

James K.


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I guess I need to watch the episode again. I sometimes miss things that may be obvious to others. You make a good point about him possibly being a lousy golfer. His grip on the club would support that theory. So do you think his grip on the club was intentional? Or did Ed Bishop simply not know any better? Not that it matters, but it's fun to speculate...

Jeff

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In a message dated 1/13/2005 9:49:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

I don't recall anything about Straker not being able to golf. Not saying
it's not true, just that I don't recall it! If so, it must have been from a
different episode, or I missed something.


There are some indications he isn't a good golfer now that I recall the
episode. He knows the protocol for the game, telling Foster what he needed to do,
suggesting a club as if he is expert, and he says he plays for forgetting
about his troubles, but when it comes down to it, he may be lousy, and
responsible for all the swans in the area having nervous breakdowns. If you notice,
and I remember right, Foster's cart has a tag on it, Ed's does not, which led
me to believe Foster hired his clubs at whatever club they went to, and Ed's
cart and clubs were his. That 'Nice shot' line he gives Foster could hide a
little jealousy.


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Eeeegahhhh! It's thoughts like that that can drive a fan insane!
However, now that I've been confronted with all this logic, here are
my thoughts:

By the way, Psychobombs is one of my favourite episodes.

1. The UK is home to SHADO, later on in the episode we find that a
prime reason for the Aliens yet again visiting are to knock out some
SHADO systems and deliver an ultimatum.

2. Does Ed Straker look like the kind of guy who would entrust
being driven to someone else? Stopping Straker was a build up to
issuing the ultimatum.

3. It's only hinted at what SHADO's US capabilities are...plus the
USAF's capabilities as well.

4. I thought about this recently. You have a top secret operation,
aliens are involved. They could have built a huge mountain
installation, and then the rumours start up amongst the public that
there's something strange up the mountainside. Conspiracy theories
start. Now a movie studio....anything odd can be explained as "oh,
that's for a new sci fi movie, fantastic special effects".
In "Exposed", a movie producer compliments Straker on being a "hands
off boss" and UFO attacks might not come that often. Also, it was a
cost cutting device for Gerry Anderson.

5. Privellege of rank. And you do see the SHADO colonels wearing
uniforms on Skydiver, SHADAIR transports and on Moonbase (ah, if
only we'd seen more of Colonel Lake in her purple wig and moonbase
uniform in "The Man Who Came Back").

Nick
(the other one)



--- In [hidden email], "Brinke" <brinkeguthrie@y...> wrote:

--- In [hidden email], "Samantha Peterson" <lestat117@i...>
wrote:
I thought about this too....We assume that the Aliens want to
destroy the toxin and destroy all human life but what if the plan
was slightly different? What if they wanted to disable the warship
and only destroy a few of the toxin tanks instead of the whole lot?
A bit of toxin would destroy a large area and in the chaos that
follows, they could literally harvest the dead bodies. If you
notice, the UFO takes it's time to take pot shots at the warship.
Just a thought.

Nick
(the other one)

> Now....here's a connundrum for someone else to answer...if the
aliens want
> earthlings for replacement parts or even the earth because it can
still
> support life...why would they try to destroy ALL life on the
planet as in
> "Destruction". I mean it's a nice episode and you get to see the
guys out
> of the office actually enjoying themselves on the golf course, and
of course
> Foster charming another pretty girl, but the overall premise of
the story is
> kind of unlike all the rest of the episodes. The aliens are not
trying to
> just destroy SHADO...but ALL LIFE ON EARTH...wouldn't that defeat
the
> purpose of coming here? Hmmm. Of course the aliens attacking the
ship only
> to be rescued by Skydiver is very suspenseful. ;-)
>
> Samantha

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Don't forget the most relevent movie where the film was
reversed....Doppleganger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You boys are slipping with your trivia :-)
Dave H.


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>
>
> It could be a case of them having only a left handed set of clubs for him
to
> use and then flopping the film so it is backward and looks right except
for
> the grip. If you think this is to much work I will remind you that they
did the
> same thing for the film The Pride of the Yankees where Gary Cooper played
Lou
> Gehrig who was left handed while Cooper was not. They also did the same
with
> Paul Newman in The Left Handed Gun. Both of these were for most of the
films
> scene where the character is shown using his left hand not just a single
> scene as it would have been in UFO.

Excellent, Dave!
Otherwise known as "Journey to the Far Side of the Sun", here in the states. Out of print on DVD, and (relatively) expensive if you find one.

Jeff

davrecon <[hidden email]> wrote:


Don't forget the most relevent movie where the film was
reversed....Doppleganger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You boys are slipping with your trivia :-)
Dave H.


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To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: Psychobombs etc


>
>
> It could be a case of them having only a left handed set of clubs for him
to
> use and then flopping the film so it is backward and looks right except
for
> the grip. If you think this is to much work I will remind you that they
did the
> same thing for the film The Pride of the Yankees where Gary Cooper played
Lou
> Gehrig who was left handed while Cooper was not. They also did the same
with
> Paul Newman in The Left Handed Gun. Both of these were for most of the
films
> scene where the character is shown using his left hand not just a single
> scene as it would have been in UFO.






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Amelia,

I'm no expert, but I'd say his stance & address of the ball was passable. But it did LOOK like he gave the ball a pretty good whack.

Jeff

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In a message dated 1/14/2005 7:21:33 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

So do you think his grip on the club was intentional? Or did Ed Bishop
simply not know any better? Not that it matters, but it's fun to speculate...

Jeff



I'm trying to find out from Ed via Helen Weber, and if I do, I'll let this
group and my EdBishopFans group know. I'd be surprised if he knew he had that
scene, and he didn't prepare properly for it. The drive itself looked good to
me, but then I know little about golf. Was his stance and his address of the
ball, and the shot itself decent?
Amelia


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