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Marc Martin

Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

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Hi all,

Here is a photo I just saw posted on Facebook
(Fanderson group):

http://ufoseries.com/temp/derekMoonbase.jpg

That Moonbase model looks HUGE in this photo!

Marc

Griff

Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

Hi,

Yes I have to agree. I knew the Moonbase model used in the Lunar Module landing sequences (and others) must have been fairly large, but I had no idea it was THIS large... WOW!

Thanks!

Griff

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

Hi all,

Here is a photo I just saw posted on Facebook (Fanderson group):

http://ufoseries.com/temp/derekMoonbase.jpg

That Moonbase model looks HUGE in this photo!

Marc

twonky

Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

In reply to this post by Marc Martin

Marc,

That was posted by my pal Brad...and as I pointed out on The
Fanderson page, the Moonbase may be a forced-perspective model and
not as huge as it appears. The gantry and rocks behind Meddings are
very large, but we have no reference to see the relation between
foreground and background. There must be a higher resolution version
of this still around,.

Cheers,

John

On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Marc Martin wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Here is a photo I just saw posted on Facebook
> (Fanderson group):
>
> http://ufoseries.com/temp/derekMoonbase.jpg
>
> That Moonbase model looks HUGE in this photo!
>
> Marc
>

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Bruce Sherman

Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

Having seen the Enterprise that hangs in the Smithsonian a number of years
ago, the size didn’t surprise me. A couple of years ago, when they
auctioned off loads of Star Trek movies, tos,tng,ds9, etc, props, including
models, they still make them that large.

If I may go off topic for a moment. I was very shocked when I saw the items
on display before the auction started, but was still not happy to see the
Enterprise from ST3, after they blew it up.

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: John R. Ellis
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 12:48 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

Marc,

That was posted by my pal Brad...and as I pointed out on The
Fanderson page, the Moonbase may be a forced-perspective model and
not as huge as it appears. The gantry and rocks behind Meddings are
very large, but we have no reference to see the relation between
foreground and background. There must be a higher resolution version
of this still around,.

Cheers,

John

On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Marc Martin wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Here is a photo I just saw posted on Facebook
> (Fanderson group):
>
> http://ufoseries.com/temp/derekMoonbase.jpg
>
> That Moonbase model looks HUGE in this photo!
>
> Marc
>

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Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

In reply to this post by twonky

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R. Ellis" <[hidden email]>

>The gantry and rocks behind Meddings are
> very large, but we have no reference to see the relation between
> foreground and background.

I believe we can get an idea by making a comparison between the Lunar Module
Dereks is holding, Derek himself and the launch pad where the Lunar Module
lands and takes off...

Raffaele

Griff

Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

Hi,

You can really get a sense of scale for Moonbase as a whole from this photo:-

http://www.ufoseries.com/photos/btsBuildingMoonbaseSphere.jpg

Regards,

Griff

Graeme Walker

Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

Keep in mind that there were 2 moonbase miniatures built for the series.
The one shown with Derek is the larger and more detailed one. There was
also a smaller model with considerably more moon terrain used for long
shots and overhead filming such as the battle sequence as seen in
'Reflections in the Water'. There are minor differences in detail and
window shape between the 2 miniatures if you look hard enough. The
Japanese photo guidebooks usually have a good selection of side by side
stills that illustrate the differences.

On 7/7/2012 2:37 PM, griffwason wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> You can really get a sense of scale for Moonbase as a whole from this
> photo:-
>
> http://www.ufoseries.com/photos/btsBuildingMoonbaseSphere.jpg
>
> Regards,
>
> Griff
>
>
>
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Wayne Davidson

UFO car sighting in magazine

Hi all,

while looking thru some of my car magazines I came accross a small
colour pic of a UFO car, Classic & sports car June 2008,

a reader wrote in with this pic mentioning the car ownership by Dave Lee
Travis back in the 70's.

wayne davidson invers NZ.............

Darth Garlic

Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

In reply to this post by Graeme Walker

Do either of the models still exist?

--- On Sat, 7/7/12, Graeme Walker <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Graeme Walker <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, July 7, 2012, 5:02 PM

Keep in mind that there were 2 moonbase miniatures built for the series.

The one shown with Derek is the larger and more detailed one. There was

also a smaller model with considerably more moon terrain used for long

shots and overhead filming such as the battle sequence as seen in

'Reflections in the Water'. There are minor differences in detail and

window shape between the 2 miniatures if you look hard enough. The

Japanese photo guidebooks usually have a good selection of side by side

stills that illustrate the differences.

On 7/7/2012 2:37 PM, griffwason wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> You can really get a sense of scale for Moonbase as a whole from this

> photo:-

>

> http://www.ufoseries.com/photos/btsBuildingMoonbaseSphere.jpg

>

> Regards,

>

> Griff

>

>

>

> No virus found in this message.

> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>

> Version: 2012.0.2195 / Virus Database: 2437/5116 - Release Date: 07/07/12

>

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Marc Martin

Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

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On July 7, Darth Garlic <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Do either of the models still exist?

If they do, they've been kept a very good secret all these years.
Most of this stuff got thrown away at the end of the series... :-(

Marc

Darth Garlic

Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

Thats really too bad. The ship from The Starlost was tossed in a dumpster in Toronto at the end of filming. Moonbase Alpha had a similar fate. The Discovery from 2001 was purposefully destroyed to prevent it being used in a B movie. The Alien movie's Nostromo was left out in the weather for years before being restored. The models from Star Trek were sold off to the highest bidder. The only franchise that seemed to keep and show anything was Star Wars.

--- On Sat, 7/7/12, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, July 7, 2012, 9:12 PM

On July 7, Darth Garlic <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Do either of the models still exist?

If they do, they've been kept a very good secret all these years.

Most of this stuff got thrown away at the end of the series... :-(

Marc

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Bruce Sherman

Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

In reply to this post by Marc Martin

never be surprised how some low level janitor might have a piece of a model holding up a shelf at his home, not realizing what it is :)

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Martin
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

On July 7, Darth Garlic <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Do either of the models still exist?

If they do, they've been kept a very good secret all these years.
Most of this stuff got thrown away at the end of the series... :-(

Marc

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dep1701

Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

In reply to this post by Marc Martin

"The only franchise that seemed to keep and show anything was Star Wars."

That's because George Lucas had vision enough to see beyond one film. Most studios used to see little economic value in keeping models from SF movies and series. The original Trek Enterprise was simply boxed up and shoved into storage after the series ended ( thank goodness the Smithsonian requested it, or who knows if it would exist today ). One of the original Lost In Space Jupiter 2 models had extra windows cut into it and was made into a underwater building in another Irwin Allen Project, "City Beneath The Sea". The original LIS robot suit was repainted and redressed for use in a saturday morning kiddie show of the seventies titled "Mystery Island". One of the original Voyage to The Bottom Of The Sea 'Seaview' miniatures had it's bow cut off and was redressed as the "Nautilus" for Irwin Allen's crap "Return Of Captain Nemo" miniseries in '77.

Let's face it... more often than not, the only people with interest in preserving these items are the fans. Even the original model builders often seem to have little sentimental attachment to them. Although there are some notable exceptions ( such as the recently auctioned full sized Trek Galileo shuttle prop - which is in awful condition - and ditto for Straker's car ) sometimes the best thing that could happen to these props is that they end up in the possession of a fan who will love, cherish and preserve them ( David Sisson and the #1, 44 inch Eagle from Space:1999 is a fantastic example of a happy ending for a model ).

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Ithiaca Dreamweaver

Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

Be nice if there where a Sci-Fi Museum or exhibit so that these icons to
the future could be shared to show the boundless imagination of Humanity.

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:45 AM, David P <[hidden email]> wrote:

> **
>
>
> "The only franchise that seemed to keep and show anything was Star Wars."
>
> That's because George Lucas had vision enough to see beyond one film. Most
> studios used to see little economic value in keeping models from SF movies
> and series. The original Trek Enterprise was simply boxed up and shoved
> into storage after the series ended ( thank goodness the Smithsonian
> requested it, or who knows if it would exist today ). One of the original
> Lost In Space Jupiter 2 models had extra windows cut into it and was made
> into a underwater building in another Irwin Allen Project, "City Beneath
> The Sea". The original LIS robot suit was repainted and redressed for use
> in a saturday morning kiddie show of the seventies titled "Mystery Island".
> One of the original Voyage to The Bottom Of The Sea 'Seaview' miniatures
> had it's bow cut off and was redressed as the "Nautilus" for Irwin Allen's
> crap "Return Of Captain Nemo" miniseries in '77.
>
> Let's face it... more often than not, the only people with interest in
> preserving these items are the fans. Even the original model builders often
> seem to have little sentimental attachment to them. Although there are some
> notable exceptions ( such as the recently auctioned full sized Trek Galileo
> shuttle prop - which is in awful condition - and ditto for Straker's car )
> sometimes the best thing that could happen to these props is that they end
> up in the possession of a fan who will love, cherish and preserve them (
> David Sisson and the #1, 44 inch Eagle from Space:1999 is a fantastic
> example of a happy ending for a model ).
>
>
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>
>
>

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Marc Martin

Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

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On July 8, Ithiaca Dreamweaver <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Be nice if there where a Sci-Fi Museum or exhibit so that these icons to
> the future could be shared to show the boundless imagination of Humanity.

There is a Sci-Fi museum in Seattle Washington -- has an original
Captains chair from Star Trek, the original Death Star model, etc.
Nothing from UFO, though...

Marc

Ithiaca Dreamweaver

Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

I never knew that! Cool, now a real reason to go to Seattle, WA

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> **
>
>
> On July 8, Ithiaca Dreamweaver <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Be nice if there where a Sci-Fi Museum or exhibit so that these icons to
> > the future could be shared to show the boundless imagination of Humanity.
>
> There is a Sci-Fi museum in Seattle Washington -- has an original
> Captains chair from Star Trek, the original Death Star model, etc.
> Nothing from UFO, though...
>
> Marc
>
>
>

dep1701

Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

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"There is a Sci-Fi museum in Seattle Washington -- has an original
Captains chair from Star Trek, the original Death Star model, etc.
Nothing from UFO, though...

Marc"

That's true, but if I remember from an issue of Sci Fi Modeller from several years back, there were photographs of a few models and props that are in the hands of private collectors. So at least some do survive. Perhaps someday some of them will make their way to a museum.

You would think that in England there would be at least a small permanent Gerry Anderson Museum or exhibit ( of course, getting the owners of original props, puppets, models or costumes to loan their prized possessions out for extended periods would, no doubt, be difficult ). And I mean something more secure than the exhibition at Blackpool I've seen pictures of. While I've heard it was a nice display, apparently security was lax enough that several pieces got damaged, and some went missing. If I owned any of those pieces and that had happened to me I'd have been furious and sued ( hell, I don't even let my cousin's children touch the toys and models I have on display in my geek room...and those are mostly commercially produced items ).

Davidp

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Marc Martin

Re: Rare UFO behind-the-scenes photo

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> That's true, but if I remember from an issue of Sci Fi Modeller
> from several years back, there were photographs of a few models
> and props that are in the hands of private collectors.

Yes, that's true, and these models do get displayed
occasionally in England. I went to a Fanderson
convention in 2000 and they had an original
large Interceptor, an original large Sky One, and a
small Interceptor, plus the original model-T seen
in IDENTIFIED!

Marc