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Carole
What was the title of last Sundays ep on SciFi please? I missed it and want
to try and get a tape. Thanks Carole


was meant for Jay privately.

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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:03:22 -0000
> From: [hidden email]
> Subject: To Pam
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> Hi Pam, Thanks for the suggestion that I should write a story about
> Paul and Straker as the reincarnations of Caesar and Antony,
> respectively ... this would fit better with how I see the characters
> than you may realize (having read their bios in Plutarch) ... and I
> have a little more background than the average person to write such a
> thing, too, because I did Egyptology as an undergrad (what can I say,
> I was a very odd child!).
>
> I was actually thinking of writing a UFO story last night, inspired
> by some photos of Paul & Straker from Mindbender that I printed out
> ... I was thinking of taking the photos and using them as
> illustrations for my own "never aired" episode of UFO. If only I had
> time to write it out ...
>
> In any event, if I ever do write such a story, I fear it would not be
> the sort of thing one would want to see in the stacks of the UFO
> fanfic library!
>
> On a separate topic, I agree with the views stated by Andy and others
> that UFO "was a victim of its own excellence"--I was really staggered
> by its subtlety and psychological depth when I rediscovered it on the
> Sci Fi Channel a couple of years back--about 6 weeks before it went
> off the air, of course!
>
> I think James, or somebody, mentioned figuring out the thing with the
> Moonbase women from the first episode--but I missed the first episode
> when the series aired in Maryland back in the early 70s. It's still
> one of the episodes I haven't seen.
>
> Take care,
>
> Steve
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:16:26 -0700
> From: Joyce Reynolds-Ward <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: Food for thought...
>
> snip
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> >Yeah - but was it SHADO or the aliens ? No borrowing
> >history, remember ? <g,d&r>
>
> Nah, it was the Smoking Man from X Files, still trying
> to stay ahead of SHADO....<vbseg>.
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> >Yes - but at the same time, suggestive perhaps that a
> >revamp might find a new audience, a la 'The X-Files',
> >more adult and prepared to enjoy sci-fi with a black
> >side, maybe even with the dark side predominant.
> >'UFO:2010', here we come !
>
> Yep. Judging from X-Philedom, the darker side might play
> pretty well these days....
>
> Joyce
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:15:17 EDT
> From: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: UFO on VHS/DVD in the States?
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> Hi Jay,
> There are 4 tapes of UFO out in the U.S. on NTSC tapes. You can find
> them online by going to:
> www.musicselection.com/video/e-pvideo.htm
> or simply search for "Ed Bishop" video ufo
>
> hope this helps. By the way each tape has two episode.
>
> Happy Video Raiding,
> James K.
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 03:34:38 EDT
> From: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: UFO on VHS/DVD in the States?
>
> YES,UFO IS AVAILBLE ON VHS THROUGH CINEMA CLASSICS.I RECENTLY BOUGHT QUITE
A
> FEW TAPES FROM THE UFO SERIES.THE TAPES ARE 19.95 EACH.YOU GET TWO-THREE
> EPISODES ON EACH TAPE.I FOUND THE QUALITY OF THE TAPES TO BE VERY
GOOD.THIER
> PHONE NUMBER IS(212) 677-6309.YOU CAN ORDER ONLINE AT
WWW.CINEMACLASSIC.COM
> THEY HAVE ELEVEN TAPES AVAILBLE FOR PURCHASE.THESE TAPES ARE FOR PLAY ON
U.S.
> VHS.
> GOOD
LUCK,

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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 09:07:35 GMT
> From: "Anthony Appleyard" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: SkyDiver Models etc
>
> "Pam McCaughey" <[hidden email]> wrote to [hidden email] :-
> > I actually saw on a models/figurines site a fellow who created an Ed
Straker
> > action figure and one of the alien. Darn it! I can't remember where I
saw ...
>
> I made a Poser CGI model of a UFO series alien. It is at
> http://www.buckrogers.demon.co.uk/3d/alienga.zip and also in the Poser
Free

> Stuff on http://www.renderosity.com
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:41:08 EDT
> From: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: UFO on VHS/DVD in the States?
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> Hi Jay been getting my tapes from Cinema Classics.com. Not all , but
good

> selection. Elaine
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:56:36 -0400
> From: "Pam McCaughey" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: aliens etc
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> Hi Andy -
>
> I really resonated with your comment:
>
> "The most scary thing I remember about the series was the alien/s - still
> remember walking home on a clear, cloudless night, almost able to hear the
> eerie 'UFO' music and afraid of an alien appearing from behind a
> tree...while watching it now, these characters in red jump suits and gold
> chains..."
>
> And when I saw Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind - I had exactly the
opposite
> reaction - "Hey guys - can I go with you?" Just depends on how aliens are
> depicted. UFO depicted them with high menace and mystery - we never heard
> them talk, we rarely saw them face to face, Their skin was tinged green,
> they wore those weird eye protectors that had little dots in the centre,
> etc. I'm sure today the aliens would be wearing better suits than the red
> ones with the chains, hee hee.
>
> In Trek, many alien races were presented - some good, some not so good.
Some
> looked distinctly alien and scary. I think one of the neatest things about
> the UFO aliens was that they could have passed for one of us - minus the
eye
> protectors and the green skin - now THAT'S scary - a fifth column
invasion!

>
> Ciao for now - Pam
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 09:01:39 -0400
> From: "Pam McCaughey" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: SkyDiver Models etc
>
> Hi Bruce - I think the diorama pix may just be on the ISHADO site I seem
to
> recall photos from either Project Foster or Project Ellis.....I must check
> out the site www.ufo.it etc. Could be interesting. I ordered my Imai model
> from Monsters in Motion last year. I admit it too is still in the box, so
> don't feel guilty on that! I'm just as bad. My husband collects car and
fire

> engine models and has several stacked up unopened....
>
> Ciao for now - Pam
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:07:27
> From: "Denise Felt" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: UFO on VHS/DVD in the States?
>
> >[hidden email]
> wrote:
> >Now I need help. Has anyone seen, or does anyone know of NTSC VHS
> >tapes or DVD available in the states?
>
> Jay,
> I've looked for years for the series videos and couldn't find them
anywhere.
> I did find a few on Amazon.com, but those offered did not include my
> favorite episodes, so I held off. Then my son and I started going to Star
> Trek conventions and guess what? I found UFO videos at the buyers'
tables!
> In fact, this last con I went to specifically to buy the set. I wasn't
able
> to get the full set that I'd seen last year, because the dealer hadn't
> brought it with him. But another dealer had a set that included all but 2
> of the episodes for a lot cheaper than the original set. So I got it!
Now
> all I have to do is find the other dealer out in Vegas and pick up the
last

> two.
> I suggest you start checking out sci-fi cons in your area. It worked for
> me! (P.S. They also had Capt. Scarlet & Thunderbirds.)
> Denise
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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:42:11
> From: "Denise Felt" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: UFO personalities
>
> Dear Pam,
> My son and I were talking about the lack of closeness among the UFO
> characters last night, and he said that if TNG had only had one season, we
> might have thought the same about it too. Remember how awful the entire
> first season was? Patrick Stewart has long said that it was so obvious to
> the public because TOS was very closeknit by the time it ended, and here
> they were starting out green. So it gave me a better perspective on the
UFO
> series to compare them. Although where they were headed with their
aliens,
> I'm rather glad they didn't get a second season. Just too weird for my
> liking!
>
> I loved the different personalities of SHADO personnel. They tried to
make
> them human in the show, and in some cases they did very well. I too wish
> the women had been fleshed out a bit more. But when the command team is
all
> male, what are you going to do? I've noticed as I've been rewatching
after
> a 25 year lapse that they tried to pair Straker up with nearly every one
of
> the females on the show at one time or another. It was almost
embarrassing
> to watch! Perhaps that's why I always saw him as desired by his female
> operatives over the years. In the back of my young teenage mind, I must
> have caught on to their scheme.
>
> Other things I've noticed as an adult include losing Peter Carlin as the
> teen focus and replacing him with Paul Foster. It was a good move, but
not
> because Peter's character lacked personality. It was just that he's too
> quiet and a lot more like Straker than any of the others. With an
ensemble
> cast like that, you really can't have two people so much alike. And Paul
> makes a better foil for Straker's cool demeanor. But I have always
thought
> that Straker intended Peter to take over SHADO one day.
>
> And I just love Lew! He's so 50's good-looking. The square jaw, the
heavy
> brow, the whole tall, dark and handsome thing. I always wanted to get to
> know him better.
>
> But Alec Freeman has long been one of my favorite characters on the show.
> He's so perfect as Straker's conscience! And he gets some of the best
> lines. And I enjoy how they make him understand Straker better than
anyone
> else, but at the same time, never be quite sure what he's doing and why.
It
> added great depth to both characters to do things that way.
>
> I've been surprised reading some of the fan fiction to find that so many
> fans view Jackson as villainous. I never saw him that way. He's just
> obsessed with his work--- which is different. And I never felt that he
> actively disliked Straker. Although the commander's opinion was never
left
> in doubt. I would have thought that a man of his intellect would find
> Strker fascinating, both as a case study and as a leader. But he's
> ambiguous enough on the series that he's open to many interpretations. My
> favorite scene with the two of them is at the end of "Court Martial."
> Straker's small smile that he gives the doctor is one of the most
beautiful

> things I've ever seen. And Jackson's laugh after the pen incident is
> priceless!
>
> With so many intriguing personalities to work with, it's obvious why the
> series has long outlasted its airdates. And I find it very hard to pick a
> definitive favorite. Unless it's Straker. But that's only because his
> personality overshadows everyone else's (if you'll pardon the pun.)
> Yours,
> Denise
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> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:12:36 -0000
> From: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Roman/Egyptian UFO
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> You might consider reading the book by Poul Anderson, "The Boat Of A
> Million Years" (TOR 1989), and adapting similar immortality
> concepts... Then Ed could be as immortal as we all want (expect) him
> to be and he could BE Caesar too! The book is excellent and contains
> a cute limerick on page 448 too, but the immortality thing is what I
> was getting at of course.
>
> Shawn, (Lurking no longer)
>
> --- In SHADO@y..., "Pam McCaughey" <editor@a...> wrote:
> > I'm totally fascinated by anything to do with ancient Egypt, and in
> fact I'm
> > going to be going there in Sept 2002 (a trip which includes a 6 day
> cruise
> > up the Nile - I can't wait!). I placed one of my UFO stories in
> Egypt too
> > (Shifting Sands on the SHADO Library). Interesting that folks have
> been
> > discussing Straker in terms of being a Roman, and Foster in terms
> of being
> > an Egyptian - one could write a neat story about Straker being a
> > reincarnation of Caesar and Foster being a reincarnation of Marc
> Antony
> > (both of whom fell to the charms of Queen Cleopatra). I don't know
> how one
> > would work it into the modern day aspect of UFO, but it's worth
> > consideration if you're into the fantasy angle of it all. Hey
> Stevo - wanna
> > take this assignment on?
> >
> > Pam
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 23:31:29 -0500
> From: Yuchtar <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: Re: Roman/Egyptian UFO
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> [hidden email] wrote:
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> > You might consider reading the book by Poul Anderson, "The Boat Of A
> > Million Years" (TOR 1989), and adapting similar immortality
> > concepts... Then Ed could be as immortal as we all want (expect) him
> > to be and he could BE Caesar too! The book is excellent and contains
> > a cute limerick on page 448 too, but the immortality thing is what I
> > was getting at of course.
> >
> > Shawn, (Lurking no longer)
>
> Hi, Shawn! <waving>
>
> Hmmmm, immortal, huh? <ponder>
> Pity, Ed wasn't immortal in "Highlander!" <grrrrrrrrrrrrrr>
>
> Interesting idea ....
>
> TA!
>
> -- Yuchtar, pondering .......
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