Re: Shado's Car

> I think its the same thing (?)
> The young men in my area use "turbo charger" as I am told.
> Dee
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Bowers <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Sat, 30 May 2009 12:49 am
> Subject: Re: [SHADO] Shado's Car
>
>
> You likely mean supercharger, not turbocharger.

> Yeah, turbochargers run at much higher RPMs than superchargers, so
> most of it's noise is above the normal human hearing threshold. They
> bug dogs more than humans... ;-)
>
> The idea is the same - use a turbine to pump more fuel / air mix into
> the engine at higher speed. The supercharger runs off the crankshaft,
> and the turbocharger runs off exhaust pressure. Superchargers are less
> fuel efficient, but they provide more power and provide it faster than
> turbochargers (turbochargers always have a "lag time" while the
> pressure builds up, superchargers come up to speed as soon as the
> engine does).
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Paul Bowers <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I'm a relative newbie to superchargers, but you can hear the whine quite
>> easily. It's quite impressive, I saw/heard it in Montreal during trials.
>>
>> Amazing sound.
>

>
> Bingo, Mario. The superchargers I remember were attached to Fords. They
> were screaming out of corners (this was back when we could actually hear
> the engine). Effing amazing sound.
>
> Paul
>
>
> Mario Butter wrote:
> > Yeah, turbochargers run at much higher RPMs than superchargers, so
> > most of it's noise is above the normal human hearing threshold. They
> > bug dogs more than humans... ;-)
> >
> > The idea is the same - use a turbine to pump more fuel / air mix into
> > the engine at higher speed. The supercharger runs off the crankshaft,
> > and the turbocharger runs off exhaust pressure. Superchargers are less
> > fuel efficient, but they provide more power and provide it faster than
> > turbochargers (turbochargers always have a "lag time" while the
> > pressure builds up, superchargers come up to speed as soon as the
> > engine does).
> >
> > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Paul Bowers <pbowers@...> wrote:
> >> I'm a relative newbie to superchargers, but you can hear the whine quite
> >> easily. It's quite impressive, I saw/heard it in Montreal during trials.
> >>
> >> Amazing sound.
> >
>

> Hi All :)
>
> Mmmm... I hate to be a fly in the ointment... but to be UFO purist, I do remember the question of the power source for the SHADO cars/vehicles beingraised at Uforia, and indeed their distinctive engine sound (overdubbed inthe TV series to presumably drown out the mundane sound of their very conventional engines). Ed Bishop did also mention that it was very noisy in his(Strakers) car, and that it was a monster to drive. One was extensively damaged during the production of Doppelganger.
>
> At Uforia, Derek Meddings (I am almost certain it was him) said that he thought that cars in the future (certainly at the time of UFO) would all be electric. However, there was some mention of a gas turbine/electic for the SHADO cars (I guess we'ed call it a hybrid now). I know John Burke (aka Robert Miall) was briefed on this when he was commissioned to write the two UFO novels, and indeed he briefly mentions about how Straker's car actually gets quieter the faster it is driven.
>
> So, to me all this talk of huge engines, turbos, superchargers etc. is all off topic! ... but hey, that's just me.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Griff
>
> --- In [hidden email], Paul Bowers <pbowers@> wrote:
> >
> > Bingo, Mario. The superchargers I remember were attached to Fords. They
> > were screaming out of corners (this was back when we could actually hear
> > the engine). Effing amazing sound.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > Mario Butter wrote:
> > > Yeah, turbochargers run at much higher RPMs than superchargers, so
> > > most of it's noise is above the normal human hearing threshold. They
> > > bug dogs more than humans... ;-)
> > >
> > > The idea is the same - use a turbine to pump more fuel / air mix into
> > > the engine at higher speed. The supercharger runs off the crankshaft,
> > > and the turbocharger runs off exhaust pressure. Superchargers are less
> > > fuel efficient, but they provide more power and provide it faster than
> > > turbochargers (turbochargers always have a "lag time" while the
> > > pressure builds up, superchargers come up to speed as soon as the
> > > engine does).
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Paul Bowers <pbowers@> wrote:
> > >> I'm a relative newbie to superchargers, but you can hear the whine quite
> > >> easily. It's quite impressive, I saw/heard it in Montreal during trials.
> > >>
> > >> Amazing sound.
> > >
> >
>

>
> --- In [hidden email], "Griff Wason" <griff@> wrote:
> >Hi
> The SHADO cars Had the sound of a gas turbine but I do not think they realy had one Chryler tried to market them but it died It was to be the engine of the future http://www.allpar.com/mopar/turbine.html I would say all they had was a 4 cyl motor just to move them , all show and no go . You look at many of the driving seen's and the film is sped up , you can tell by looking at the tree movement.
>
> > Hi All :)
> >
> > Mmmm... I hate to be a fly in the ointment... but to be UFO purist, I do remember the question of the power source for the SHADO cars/vehicles being raised at Uforia, and indeed their distinctive engine sound (overdubbed in the TV series to presumably drown out the mundane sound of their very conventional engines). Ed Bishop did also mention that it was very noisy in his (Strakers) car, and that it was a monster to drive. One was extensively damaged during the production of Doppelganger.
> >
> > At Uforia, Derek Meddings (I am almost certain it was him) said that hethought that cars in the future (certainly at the time of UFO) would all be electric. However, there was some mention of a gas turbine/electic for the SHADO cars (I guess we'ed call it a hybrid now). I know John Burke (aka Robert Miall) was briefed on this when he was commissioned to write the two UFO novels, and indeed he briefly mentions about how Straker's car actuallygets quieter the faster it is driven.
> >
> > So, to me all this talk of huge engines, turbos, superchargers etc. is all off topic! ... but hey, that's just me.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Griff

>
> --- In [hidden email], "Griff Wason" <griff@> wrote:
> >Hi
> The SHADO cars Had the sound of a gas turbine but I do not think they realy had one Chryler tried to market them but it died It was to be the engineof the future http://www.allpar.com/mopar/turbine.html I would say all they had was a 4 cyl motor just to move them , all show and no go . You look at many of the driving seen's and the film is sped up , you can tell by looking at the tree movement.
>
> > Hi All :)
> >
> > Mmmm... I hate to be a fly in the ointment... but to be UFO purist, I do remember the question of the power source for the SHADO cars/vehicles being raised at Uforia, and indeed their distinctive engine sound (overdubbed in the TV series to presumably drown out the mundane sound of their very conventional engines). Ed Bishop did also mention that it was very noisy in his (Strakers) car, and that it was a monster to drive. One was extensively damaged during the production of Doppelganger.
> >
> > At Uforia, Derek Meddings (I am almost certain it was him) said that hethought that cars in the future (certainly at the time of UFO) would all be electric. However, there was some mention of a gas turbine/electic for the SHADO cars (I guess we'ed call it a hybrid now). I know John Burke (aka Robert Miall) was briefed on this when he was commissioned to write the two UFO novels, and indeed he briefly mentions about how Straker's car actuallygets quieter the faster it is driven.
> >
> > So, to me all this talk of huge engines, turbos, superchargers etc. is all off topic! ... but hey, that's just me.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Griff

>
> --- In [hidden email], "Griff Wason" <griff@> wrote:
> >Hi
> The SHADO cars Had the sound of a gas turbine but I do not think they realy had one Chryler tried to market them but it died It was to be the engine of the future http://www.allpar.com/mopar/turbine.html I would say all they had was a 4 cyl motor just to move them , all show and no go . You lookat many of the driving seen's and the film is sped up , you can tell by looking at the tree movement.
>
> > Hi All :)
> >
> > Mmmm... I hate to be a fly in the ointment... but to be UFO purist, Ido remember the question of the power source for the SHADO cars/vehicles being raised at Uforia, and indeed their distinctive engine sound (overdubbed in the TV series to presumably drown out the mundane sound of their very conventional engines). Ed Bishop did also mention that it was very noisy inhis (Strakers) car, and that it was a monster to drive. One was extensively damaged during the production of Doppelganger.
> >
> > At Uforia, Derek Meddings (I am almost certain it was him) said that he thought that cars in the future (certainly at the time of UFO) would allbe electric. However, there was some mention of a gas turbine/electic for the SHADO cars (I guess we'ed call it a hybrid now). I know John Burke (akaRobert Miall) was briefed on this when he was commissioned to write the two UFO novels, and indeed he briefly mentions about how Straker's car actually gets quieter the faster it is driven.
> >
> > So, to me all this talk of huge engines, turbos, superchargers etc. is all off topic! ... but hey, that's just me.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Griff