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Re: UFO vs Space 1999

Jaime-2
Hey Tom,
You forgot to say 'In Your Humble Opinion' :O)

As much as I *love* UFO... it too could have been 'so much more'.

With the members of the OnlineAlpha list outnumbering the members
of the SHADO list... it obviously wasn't 'flubbed' in the eyes of the
fans.

As Mark pointed out... it's all a matter of personal opinion... and in
some situations: 'Never the twain shall meet'. But certainly not in all
situations.

Jaime

On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 11:51 AM, Tom Bryant wrote:

> You're right, somewhere Anderson flubbed it with
> this one, which is a real shame because it could have been so much
> more.


Regards...
Jaime

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http://bender.cc


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Re: UFO vs Space 1999

Tom Bryant
Jaime,

My apologies. BTW I didn't mean that to sound as much os an
indictment of Space:1999 as it sounded. Space:1999 lacked that certain
something that would make it a classic beyond just the Eagle. SPace:1999
just appeared to miss the mark set by UFO. This is not to say it was
bad, or to denigrate Gerry and Sylvia Anderson's work, just that didn't
achieve what it could have that's all. It was a great show in its own
right and deserves it's fan following. I've enjoyed both shows over the
years. It's just that Space:1999 was trying far to hard to be "cerebral"
and avoid all of the "greasy kid stuff" aspects of earlier sci-fi
series, even Star Trek.
In trying to achieve that "adult" or "intelligent" edge I feel they
lost some of the drama and interest that made UFO more enjoyable to
watch and follow. This is a pity really as Space:1999 wasn't bad as much
as it was off the mark fro what it promised.

Tom Bryant


Jaime wrote:

>With the members of the OnlineAlpha list outnumbering the members
>of the SHADO list... it obviously wasn't 'flubbed' in the eyes of the
>fans.
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Re: UFO vs Space 1999

bel3762001
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True, but the "judges" (three fir trees stuck on a hillside) still have a
tad more dignity than Stanley Clarke in a giant carrot suit. And there is
that nice scene between Koenig and Maya where he talks about the fact that
he was married.

Great story about "Rules," though. I can't remember where I read this, but
apparently, Fred Freiberger came up with the title while driving one
day...he passed a sign which was pointing the way to Luton, England.

Brian

>...do we forget the S2 episode "The Rules of Luton", where vegetation >puts
>the Alpha away team on trail and pits them against >previous "animals"
>who've fouled their plant kingdom?

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Re: UFO vs Space 1999

Railhead
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> >Space:1999 was tending towards 'Lost In Space'
>
>Well, I'd say the second season came close, but even 1999 at it's goofiest
>never matched LOST IN SPACE's "The Great Vegetable Rebellion."
>Brian

Season One is very good in my opinion, but Season Two suffered, but in
reference to the above comment...do we forget the S2 episode "The Rules of
Luton", where vegetation puts the Alpha away team on trail and pits them
against previous "animals" who've fouled their plant kingdom?
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Re: Responsibility Seat

Doug Carlson
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Just watched it tonight for the first time...my random thoughts:


>Freeman under pressure goes straight for the booze-o-matic.

And Ford drove him to it! He's particularly annoying this episode.

>Finally, Straker smokes a real cigar.

Hey. Old Ports were cool back in 1970. Er, 1980.

>Jo Frazier in that turquoise well-cleavaged outfit, yowza. Out of
>it... Straker you fool!

Her voice appeared dubbed throughout. Yes, occasionally I was looking at
her mouth.


>In the launch position, wouldn't the folks in the Diver part of
>SkyDiver tumble to the back of the boat?

All I know is, Skydiver Operative Georgina Moon can "check my boosters"
whenever she feels like it!


>I really liked the use of subplots in this episode like the Russian
>moon truck. Then the Russian commander thanks SHADO for its
>cooperation. They're lucky they didn't get an interceptor missile
>down their throats.

The pov shot from the Russian mining truck as it bears down on moon base
was quite interesting. When Foster was standing about waiting to jump on
board, did you notice that his face was suddenly covered in sweat and there
was a reflection of an alien in his visor? Obviously reused footage from
'Survival'.

In all a very good episode, with everything but the kitchen sink thrown in.
My only knock against this one is the heavy use of stock footage - it
seems that at least a third of the shots are from earlier shows.

>I love Ayshea.

She's the one with the letter 'A' hanging from her neck I take it? There's
another SHADO operative in this one whose sole function was to hand-deliver
a coffee to Freeman. Ford checks her out as she walks away. Ford, you devil!


Doug
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sigourneysslave
> He should coax Alec into getting her phone number, as judging from the
> looks Alec gave her, she probably wrote it on the bottom of his coffee cup.

Oh c'mon, Amelia. ALec's prolly the biggest letch to set foot in
SHADO Control :-) And maybe he needed that coffee to sober him
up :)

Dave
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Re: Responsibility Seat

Christian J.
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--- In [hidden email], Doug Carlson <carlsond@m...> wrote:
>
> When Foster
> was standing about waiting to jump on
> board, did you notice that his face was
> suddenly covered in sweat and there
> was a reflection of an alien in his visor?
> Obviously reused footage from 'Survival'.

Hey Doug,

you're right! Although I've seen this episode often in all those
years (yes, Jane Merrow is an eye-catcher ;-) I've never noticed the
Alien in this shots (there are two of them).

OK, I'll send a frame capture of this shot to the group.

Christian
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