Sky 1 armament

The rocket launcher on Sky 1 looks like a 68mm SNEB launcher. An
interesting choice considering it is a) unguided. b) has no air to air
capacity being an air to ground weapon. Radar guided AAMs were around
in 69, so I think they could have chosen something a little more
appropriate. I'm still a huge fan though.

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"Nick Braybrooke" wrote:
> The rocket launcher on Sky 1 looks like a 68mm SNEB launcher. An
> interesting choice considering it is a) unguided. b) has no air to
> air capacity being an air to ground weapon. Radar guided AAMs were
> around in 69, so I think they could have chosen something a little
> more appropriate.

Yes, but like you said - "looks like". You seem to be making a
few assumptions there!

Well it missed when firing on the UFO attacking Seagull Xray. I would
say it wa unguided, Sky1 also had an old fashioned gunsight. Perfect
for guns. Not for a guided missile shot IMHO


--- In [hidden email], James Gibbon <james.gibbon@v...> wrote:
> "Nick Braybrooke" wrote:
> > The rocket launcher on Sky 1 looks like a 68mm SNEB launcher. An
> > interesting choice considering it is a) unguided. b) has no air to
> > air capacity being an air to ground weapon. Radar guided AAMs were
> > around in 69, so I think they could have chosen something a little
> > more appropriate.
>
> Yes, but like you said - "looks like". You seem to be making a
> few assumptions there!

"Nick Braybrooke" wrote:
>
> Well it missed when firing on the UFO attacking Seagull Xray. I would
> say it wa unguided, Sky1 also had an old fashioned gunsight. Perfect
> for guns. Not for a guided missile shot IMHO
>

I quite agree that it's unguided, but not that it's strictly an
air-ground weapon.

Uhm, aren't we confusing Hollywood with "Reality" again? If Sky used the standard radar-guided missiles of the day, they wouldn't be able to lock on any way, since the UFOes are invissible to most unmodified radars. That was the whole point of the Utronics stuff that Seagull X-Ray was carrying, wasn't it?
Besides, all modren fighters have "Old fashioned" gun sights, for use when you can't get a missile lock or if you are too close to fire one. It is just another form of back up, like having two sets of wires leading to your flight controls, incase one gets the hell shot out of it.
By the way, Sky will "Miss" when ever the writer decides that they need to, to move the plot along.

Nick Braybrooke <[hidden email]> wrote:

Well it missed when firing on the UFO attacking Seagull Xray. I would
say it wa unguided, Sky1 also had an old fashioned gunsight. Perfect
for guns. Not for a guided missile shot IMHO


--- In [hidden email], James Gibbon wrote:
> "Nick Braybrooke" wrote:
> > The rocket launcher on Sky 1 looks like a 68mm SNEB launcher. An
> > interesting choice considering it is a) unguided. b) has no air to
> > air capacity being an air to ground weapon. Radar guided AAMs were
> > around in 69, so I think they could have chosen something a little
> > more appropriate.
>
> Yes, but like you said - "looks like". You seem to be making a
> few assumptions there!





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Robert Thomas wrote:
> Uhm, aren't we confusing Hollywood with "Reality" again? If Sky
> used the standard radar-guided missiles of the day, they wouldn't
> be able to lock on any way, since the UFOes are invisible to most
> unmodified radars. That was the whole point of the Utronics stuff
> that Seagull X-Ray was carrying, wasn't it?

I don't think that's ever established - I think the essential
point of the Utronics technology is the transmission speed. I
don't believe that it's ever suggested that UFOs are
radar-invisible .. is it? In any case though it's true that
Carlin normalll lines up a UFO in a gunsight before downing it
with a missile, which does indeed suggest that they are unguided.

In ORDEAL, Sky 1 is described as having 'infra red lock' on a
UFO prior to firing a missile - however, of course that only
happens in Col Foster's unconscious mind .. :)

I thought it had been established that UFOes didn't show up on regular radar, otherwise every time Sky came near a UFO, it would have to deal with fighters from that country who had been dispatched to check out a "Boggie" in their air space.
Hard to hide or lose a UFO, if all you have to do is call the local airport and ask them what they had on their screens ten minutes ago. Besides, it adds to the mystery of their alieness and their advantage in technology.

James Gibbon <[hidden email]> wrote:
Robert Thomas wrote:
> Uhm, aren't we confusing Hollywood with "Reality" again? If Sky
> used the standard radar-guided missiles of the day, they wouldn't
> be able to lock on any way, since the UFOes are invisible to most
> unmodified radars. That was the whole point of the Utronics stuff
> that Seagull X-Ray was carrying, wasn't it?

I don't think that's ever established - I think the essential
point of the Utronics technology is the transmission speed. I
don't believe that it's ever suggested that UFOs are
radar-invisible .. is it? In any case though it's true that
Carlin normalll lines up a UFO in a gunsight before downing it
with a missile, which does indeed suggest that they are unguided.

In ORDEAL, Sky 1 is described as having 'infra red lock' on a
UFO prior to firing a missile - however, of course that only
happens in Col Foster's unconscious mind .. :)






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Almost any weapon can be used in mupitle roles. The Germans used the 88 Millameter gun as a main tank gun, anti aircraft gun, as well as a tank killer gun. A rocket would not care where it was aimed at, altho most unguided ones are used for area attacks, in mass, rather then pinpoint shooting

James Gibbon <[hidden email]> wrote:"Nick Braybrooke" wrote:
>
> Well it missed when firing on the UFO attacking Seagull Xray. I would
> say it wa unguided, Sky1 also had an old fashioned gunsight. Perfect
> for guns. Not for a guided missile shot IMHO
>

I quite agree that it's unguided, but not that it's strictly an
air-ground weapon.






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----- Original Message -----
From: "James Gibbon" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: Sky 1 armament


Agreed. Utronics dealt mainly with the great distances and speeds.
Normal radars do seem to be able to see them.

Several times in the series they mention detection by Moonbase radars and
such.

Also, in "Destruction", the Navy ship tracks the incoming UFOs before it
fires on them.

Dave H.