Space, time, and technical stuff.

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> Well, one *could* postulate that the technology to create artificial gravity
> (which must be inferred from what we observe inside Moonbase) also has
> inertial dampening properties so that the astronauts would not be subjected
> to fatal high G forces.
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> However I'm not sure Hawking radiation actually is FTL - its appearance on
> the outside of the event horizon is a property of quantum physics not speed.
> Given that matter on the quantum level can simply 'pop up' anywhere, quantum
> particles, even from inside a black hole, can 'pop up' outside the event
> horizon and escape.
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> And I'm not certain the shockwave forms prove FTL either - the outer edge of
> the universe appears to be moving away at FTL but as I recall, it's due to
> the fact that space itself is expanding and there is no speed limit on the
> expansion. But I admit I'm not up on the bleeding edge observations and
> theories.
>
> However, since we know there is working FTL in the UFOverse - Yeah, both the
> aliens and the UFOs are moving REALLY fast. In fact, the interceptors are
> moving way faster than any human would be able to process, much less
> control.
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> But AI interceptors would be boring for the audience.
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> so the moon teams in real life would be rated in UFO as travelling at speed
> SOL o.38.....? is that correct?
> also if there are black holes then faster than light speed and forces do
> exist. hawkings radiation would have to travel faster than light to escape
> the pocket dimension of the interior of the black hole.
> also when stars collapse and explode into nebulas , never reaching the
> infinite mass of a black hole, the explosive force creates ripples in the
> matter expelled, showing us that faster than light speeds are proved by the
> demonstration of the patterns left as these whatevertons pass up the light
> from the star that exploded, and leave those shockwave ripples behind them.
> [reference the recent star nursery expositions in wikipedia and nasa
> galleryapril 2011.]
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> all i can think of for the UFOs taking less time to slow down is a earth
> orbit around and around to slow down until they are probably under mach 2-3
> and then land. but straker projected a course right pinpoint to where they
> came in from space at sol8. so i guess sometimes they are speeding past the
> moon and then slow down in the 250 thousand miles or so to mach 3
> thereabouts. that would mean  a decline so rapid that radar would not be
> able to track them as the slow down. they would appear as transient
> irregular blips. i would say slamming on the brakes like that would require
> about 8 g's at least on the pilots, if they had no kind of internal
> compensaters. maybe thats why they spin. to keep the inside cabin isolated
> from the exterior. i was watching things fall away undamaged from exploding
> UFOs on the show and that also seems to be a factor. an isolated cabin
> interior would keep damage away from the contents when the exterior
> exploded. as with the
> body canisters and ufonauts that escape.
>  i know most of this is conjecture, but there are things that are consistant
> that can be counted in as substantial evidence for a theory, such as the
> tapes on shado control computers are a mix of chromium and petrolium to
> imprint magnetic stripes on. there is no evidence in cannon for that, but it
> can be reasonably assumed.
> jim
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> --- On Fri, 6/24/11, Matt <ka1bqp@... <mailto:ka1bqp%40hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> From: Matt <ka1bqp@... <mailto:ka1bqp%40hotmail.com> >
> Subject: [SHADO] Space, time, and technical stuff.
> To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 6:39 AM
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> Hey Jim,
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> The local gravity field would affect the g forces in a climb or a dive, but
> the figures in a tight corner would be the about the same as on Earth.
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> I agree, most of the time, the UFOs were following a straight course, except
> for a few exceptions. The one that comes to mind is in "The Man Who Came
> Back" where one of the three attacking UFOs veers away and makes an attack
> run on SID. Lake ordered one of the interceptors to change course and
> follow. Even though the last reported speed from SID was SOL 6, it had to
> have reduced to sublight velocity by the time it passed the moon.
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> It took the Apollo Astronauts three days to traverse the quarter of a
> million miles between the Earth and the Moon. SHADO does it much quicker, so
> they must have some method of dampining the acceleration forces as well as
> having a way to make abrupt and rapid course corrections. As cool as they
> look on the screen, the space battles with the fighters making hairpin turns
> and aerobatic maneuvers in space is unrealistic with a coventional
> propulsion system.
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> To give an idea of the incredible speeds and distances we are talking about,
> consider that it takes a radio signal (or light) about 1 1/4 seconds to
> travel from the Earth to the Moon. One of the methods of communications used
> in Amateur Radio, (one of my other hobbies) is called EME or
> Earth-Moon-Earth. Using high power transmitters and highly directional
> antennas, a radio signal is bouced off the surface of the Moon and received
> by another station halfway arond the world. In addition you are able to hear
> your own signal 2 1/2 seconds after you send it. That's cool!
>
> My point is radio and light travel at 186,000 miles per second. By
> comparision, an Apollo mission was traveling at about 34,000 miles per hour
> at the time of the S-IV-B shutdown. The speed of light is fast, but the
> universe is a mighty big place. *grin*
>
> Matt :)
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> > ok, i admit i dont know a lot of this. but here i try.......
> > the moon is 1/6 g and off the moon is even less, so you have to change
> those battle specs.
> > and the computers tracked the UFOs at speed of light 8, really hard to
> slow down or turn at if you dont want to miss your target, so the
> interceptors were like anti-missles that shot missles at a computer
> generated vector to explode or impact in the path of the UFOs.
> > so they didnt really need to turn much at high speeds.
> > jim
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