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anthonyappleyard <MCLSSAA2@fs2.mt.umist.ac.uk>
The message about photos of the convention reminded me: recently
there has been orc-talk around about Yahoo cutting down each email
group's allowed file size from 20 megabytes to 5 megabytes unless
Yahoo are paid by that group's members and/or manager. And a limit on
bulk of messages per month.
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Re: This group's photos etc

Marc Martin
Administrator
>The message about photos of the convention reminded me: recently
>there has been orc-talk around about Yahoo cutting down each email
>group's allowed file size from 20 megabytes to 5 megabytes unless
>Yahoo are paid by that group's members and/or manager. And a limit on
>bulk of messages per month.

Well, I wouldn't worry about that... this list will survive one way or
another -- either I'll pay for whatever's needed, or we'll move the
list somewhere else. As for the limit on the filesize, I suspect that
most of
the 18 megabytes in the files area are old files which are rarely accessed
anymore, and could either be moved to a website or deleted.

As for the pay options, just show me the one where I can remove all
of the excessive advertising which shows up while accessing SHADO
via the website! That's the one I want! :-)

Marc
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RE: This group's photos etc

Adrian Head
Why not create a yahoo "Briefcase" and put all the old files in there.
You can share them out to members of the SHADO group.

Adrian

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Martin [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 21 May 2002 15:04
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] This group's photos etc

>The message about photos of the convention reminded me: recently
>there has been orc-talk around about Yahoo cutting down each email
>group's allowed file size from 20 megabytes to 5 megabytes unless
>Yahoo are paid by that group's members and/or manager. And a limit on
>bulk of messages per month.

Well, I wouldn't worry about that... this list will survive one way or
another -- either I'll pay for whatever's needed, or we'll move the
list somewhere else. As for the limit on the filesize, I suspect that
most of
the 18 megabytes in the files area are old files which are rarely
accessed
anymore, and could either be moved to a website or deleted.

As for the pay options, just show me the one where I can remove all
of the excessive advertising which shows up while accessing SHADO
via the website! That's the one I want! :-)

Marc



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RE: This group's photos etc

Adrian Head
Whoops - try http://briefcase.yahoo.com/



-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Head [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 21 May 2002 15:05
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [SHADO] This group's photos etc

Why not create a yahoo "Briefcase" and put all the old files in there.
You can share them out to members of the SHADO group.

Adrian

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Martin [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 21 May 2002 15:04
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] This group's photos etc

>The message about photos of the convention reminded me: recently
>there has been orc-talk around about Yahoo cutting down each email
>group's allowed file size from 20 megabytes to 5 megabytes unless
>Yahoo are paid by that group's members and/or manager. And a limit on
>bulk of messages per month.

Well, I wouldn't worry about that... this list will survive one way or
another -- either I'll pay for whatever's needed, or we'll move the
list somewhere else. As for the limit on the filesize, I suspect that
most of
the 18 megabytes in the files area are old files which are rarely
accessed
anymore, and could either be moved to a website or deleted.

As for the pay options, just show me the one where I can remove all
of the excessive advertising which shows up while accessing SHADO
via the website! That's the one I want! :-)

Marc



Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 





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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
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RE: This group's photos etc

Marc Martin
Administrator
>Whoops - try http://briefcase.yahoo.com/

Well that's interesting... so everyone in this group would have
their own 30 mb of storage space for free? What's the catch? :-)

Marc
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Re: This group's photos etc

williams_lisac
Marc Martin wrote:

> so everyone in this group would have their own 30 mb of storage
> space for free?

Well, anyone who set up a "briefcase" would.

> What's the catch? :-)

Ads, I expect. And the usual queasy feeling of instability you
get with any ad-supported service.

- Lisa
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Re: This group's photos etc

Anthony D
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All:

Yahoo!Groups is currently running a survey. If you go to the main
page at: http://groups.yahoo.com you will find a link to the survey.

The survey, which is long, covers some of the ideas that Yahoo! has
for a 'premium' level -- including paying to remove ads. Once the
survey is done, I am sure they will roll out the premium service.

Toward the end of the survey, they present different scenarios, one
of them being the 'free' (ad-supported) version of Yahoo!Groups.
This will have 5MB of file space and allow a certain amount of
traffic bandwidth. I think that it will be more than enough to
support the current SHADO discussion list. (Since ours is a text
based group -- the image based groups will be hit harder)

Most of the options were centered around the list owner paying the
fee so group membership would remain free. There was an option for
indivdual members to pay to remove ads (IIRC).

I'd recommend all SHADO members take the survey -- but be
forewarned, it's an indepth survey -- it will take a good 15 minutes
or so to go thru it.

As for moving the list to another site -- there are fewer free ones
and it's my feeling that Yahoo!Groups is one of the more popular of
the ones left. I'm sure the list has picked up members that did a
search on Yahoo!Groups rather than come in soley via Marc's Web site.

As for the briefcase idea, you can do that -- but then you have to
remember which briefcase had which item. I don't think there's
anything in any of the archives that won't fit into 5MB and/or can't
be rotated on an orderly basis to give everyone a chance to post
their stuff.

Just my .02

Anthony
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--- In SHADO@y..., Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:
> >The message about photos of the convention reminded me: recently
> >there has been orc-talk around about Yahoo cutting down each email
> >group's allowed file size from 20 megabytes to 5 megabytes unless
> >Yahoo are paid by that group's members and/or manager. And a
limit on
> >bulk of messages per month.
>
> Well, I wouldn't worry about that... this list will survive one
way or
> another -- either I'll pay for whatever's needed, or we'll move
the
> list somewhere else. As for the limit on the filesize, I suspect
that
> most of
> the 18 megabytes in the files area are old files which are rarely
accessed
> anymore, and could either be moved to a website or deleted.
>
> As for the pay options, just show me the one where I can remove all
> of the excessive advertising which shows up while accessing SHADO
> via the website! That's the one I want! :-)
>
> Marc
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Re: This group's photos etc

Marc Martin
Administrator
>The survey, which is long

That's for sure! I started doing this survey, but when it
became clear that it was a LONNNNNNG survey, I abandoned it.

>Most of the options were centered around the list owner paying the
>fee so group membership would remain free. There was an option for
>indivdual members to pay to remove ads (IIRC).

Depending on the options & prices, I suspect I will lean towards
paying (myself) to have the ads removed for everyone. I did
this once before when this list was on eGroups. People shouldn't
be bothered because of my having to pay for this, because, truth
be told, my "UFO Series Home Page" has been earning a fair amount
of money in the past year due to associate links to Blackstar.com
and Amazon.com (mostly Blackstar). Basically what happens
is that if someone buys one of the UFO/Gerry Anderson DVDs
after visiting these sites via my website, then they credit me
with 4-5% of the purchase price. I began doing this when Yahoo raised
the price of my webhosting from $10/month to $40/month (it's now
back down to $30/month). In the beginning, these links just
barely covered the increased cost, but lately with the release of
UFO and Space:1999 DVD's, I've been taking in more money than
I'm spending, so taking some of that and putting it towards the
discussion group seems like a good idea.

Marc
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Re: This group's photos etc

andy_lovie
In reply to this post by Marc Martin
Marc Martin wrote:

<<As for the limit on the filesize, I suspect that
most of the 18 megabytes in the files area are old
files which are rarely accessed anymore, and could
either be moved to a website or deleted.>>

Plus a majority of files (especially the high-sized)
are probably photos, which can (and should) be moved
to the 'photos' section (will move mine asap !).

Andy


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