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UFO DVD Special Features Poll?

Marc Martin
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Hi all,

Thanks to everyone who's participated in my "UFO DVD Special
Features Poll"!

However, the response has been less than I had hoped for. We have
over 300 people on this mailing list, yet it appears that only about
25 people have participated in the poll.

So, does this mean that most of you don't care about special features
on the UFO DVDs? Or simply that most of you aren't interested in
participating in polls?

For those of you who care but forgot or haven't gotten around to
participating in the poll, there's still time to let you opinions
be known. Here is a link to the poll.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SHADO/surveys?id=863255

Thanks!

Marc
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RE: UFO DVD Special Features Poll?

Newman-Smith, Tim
The reason I did not reply to the poll is I do not own either a DVD player
or Video cassette recorder.

Tim Newman-Smith
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teresa.c
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Thanks to you!
BTW (pls forgive if this question has already been answered) will the UFO
DVD's include English-language subtitles?
Ciao.
t.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:12 PM
Subject: [SHADO] UFO DVD Special Features Poll?


> Hi all,
>
> Thanks to everyone who's participated in my "UFO DVD Special
> Features Poll"!
>
> However, the response has been less than I had hoped for. We have
> over 300 people on this mailing list, yet it appears that only about
> 25 people have participated in the poll.
>
> So, does this mean that most of you don't care about special features
> on the UFO DVDs? Or simply that most of you aren't interested in
> participating in polls?
>
> For those of you who care but forgot or haven't gotten around to
> participating in the poll, there's still time to let you opinions
> be known. Here is a link to the poll.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SHADO/surveys?id=863255
>
> Thanks!
>
> Marc
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Re: UFO DVD Special Features Poll?

Gareth Bevan
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Thought I'd respond to the final poll results. I'm more interested in things
being included on the DVDs that you can't get elsewhere. Things like
character biogs and even writer guides dont really interest me. I'd much
rather have commentaries, music scores, trailers etc - things that are
original and (probably) more expensive/difficult to acquire. Dare I say it
that anyone can knock up a character biog and they don't do anything for me.

I'll be interested to see what actually turns up on the discs. I doubt that
it will be up to the standard of the extra material on the BBC Doctor Who
discs - but then with 3-4 eps on a disc what can we expect?!
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Re: UFO DVD Special Features Poll?

williams_lisac
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Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:

> So, does this mean that most of you don't care about special
> features on the UFO DVDs? Or simply that most of you aren't
> interested in participating in polls?

As one of the non-responders, I'd have to say it's because I don't
much care about "extras" on DVDs. I'll respond to polls if I have a
definite preference among the choices, but here I really don't. I may
buy the DVDs when they come out; it'll depend on things like price,
whether the video quality is substantially better than the tapes, and
whether I get around to ordering them. In any case, however, "extras"
aren't going to be a factor in whether I buy the DVDs, and I'm not
likely to pay attention to them.

- Lisa
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Re: English Subtitles

Marc Martin
Administrator
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> BTW (pls forgive if this question has already been answered) will
> the UFO DVD's include English-language subtitles?

At this point, I don't think we can really answer this question
for certain. However, if we look at the past releases of
THE PRISONER, SPACE:1999 and assume that UFO will be the
same, then I think we can predict that:

* the UK DVDs will have the option of having English
subtitles

* the USA DVDs will *not* have this option, nor will
they be closed-captioned for the hard-of-hearing

Marc
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Re: UFO DVD Special Features Poll?

Lesley
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> Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:
>
> > So, does this mean that most of you don't care about special
> > features on the UFO DVDs? Or simply that most of you aren't
> > interested in participating in polls?

I have already been to the poll and chosen :o)

Cheers,
Lesleyxx
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Yuchtar-2
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[hidden email] wrote:

> Thanks to you!
> BTW (pls forgive if this question has already been answered) will the UFO
> DVD's include English-language subtitles?
> Ciao.
> t.

Ummmmmmmm, I've heard someone mention this before .... forgive my
ignorance, but wasn't UFO made in English to begin with? Why would it
need English sub-titles?

<<
Out of curiousity, do you still listen to 8 track tapes?
AT
>>

Hey! What's wrong with 8-Track?!

Andy wrote:
<<
So you should buy this box of DVDs, even if you don't
have a way of viewing them ? And can't afford them,
let alone a player for them ?
>>

Not if you can't afford them, no! But Marc is saying, if you plan on
getting a DVD player *someday* and CAN afford the DVDs when they come
out, and think you may want the DVDs when you do get a DVD player, then
you should get the DVDs when they come out or risk not being able to
find them when you DO want them later on.

Andy again:
<<
Interesting. VCRs that play both PAL and NTSC videos
have been available in the UK for several years, at
the lower end of the price scale (even the lowest
priced I've seen recently, at £75.00 - about $100 -
would play both PAL and NTSC videos. So anyone in
north America who could get hold of PAL videos - on
eBay for example - really shouldn't have a problem
playing them. Unless of course, north American
consumers are being happily led down the garden
path... but surely not...)
>>

Well, I'm not sure what you mean by being led down the garden path, but
I know I have not seen any VCRs that play both NTSC and PAL in my local
stores. I have not been to any electonic specialty stores, so I can't
say how available they are there. Right now, I'm like you - I can't even
afford a new VCR now that mine is going wonky, let alone a DVD player,
but I will probably - no, I will DEFINITELY get a DVD player some day
because the picture quality os so much better (and I already own several
DVDs - that I can't watch).

<<
But at the risk of repeating myself - people who dont
have, and can't afford, DVD players, can't buy DVDs.
End of story, enuff said. Retreat to lurking.
>>

Not strickly true - I can't afford $200.00 for a DVD player, but I have
spent $10 or $15 for DVDs. (I actually spent waaaaaaaaay more for my
limited edition 2-disc Army of Darkness DVD set, but that's my favourite
movie and it's Bruce, after all - and yes, my other 2 DVDs are Bruce
movies too ...)

Ah, Lisa confirmed my fears about multi-format VCRs when she wrote:
<<
Um, Andy, the happy state of affairs in the UK reference low-priced
multi-format VCRs most emphatically does *not* apply in the US. I
know; I have one, and tracking it down and getting hold of it was
quite an adventure in itself. The usual response at any US retailer
when I asked about VCRs capable of playing PAL tapes was "Huh?" (Most
people in the US aren't even aware there *are* different formats.) I
eventually found information on the two (2) models available at the
time; one was intended for professional use and had a four-figure
price tag; the other -- which I bought -- was about $500. Last I
looked, its successor was still the only model readily available
here, was still around $500, and was still not all that easy to find.
I have a bunch of PAL tapes and the VCR I bought has been well worth
it for my frame-capture work, but a multi-format VCR really isn't a
viable option for most people in the US.
>>

<siiiiiiiiigh>

Everything sounds so complicated - I don't think I'll ever be able to
watch PAL videos OR DVDs.

-- Yuchtar, who was the SECOND person to answer the poll (presumably
after Marc)
:-)


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UFO with subtitles (was: Re: UFO DVD Special Features Poll?)

anthonyappleyard <MCLSSAA2@fs2.mt.umist.ac.uk>
--- In SHADO@y..., Yuchtar <yuchtr@e...> wrote:
> Ummmmmmmm, I've heard someone mention this before .... forgive my
> ignorance, but wasn't UFO made in English to begin with? Why would
> it need English sub-titles?

For the deaf. It is a pity if people cannot appreciate the episodes
fully because they can't hear the soundtrack.

What we need is an electronic box that can shrink the TV picture a
bit and make subtitles run along the resulting space at the bottom
without clashing with picture detail. That would be cheaper than
making new tapes of all 26 episodes for every subtitled version.
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Branko
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Hi All!
When I tried to participate in the Poll, I received Yahoo page that asked me
for some passwords so I gave up my participation. Sorry.
All the best, Brako

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teresa.c
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> Ummmmmmmm, I've heard someone mention this before .... forgive my
> ignorance, but wasn't UFO made in English to begin with? Why would it
> need English sub-titles?

Just for us not-native English-speaking people...
I'm sure I won't have prbls in understanding both Ed Bishop and Mike
Billington, but subtitles would be a nice option to me...
Bye.
t.
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jamesgibbon
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Yuchtar wrote:

> Ummmmmmmm, I've heard someone mention this before .... forgive my
> ignorance, but wasn't UFO made in English to begin with? Why would it
> need English sub-titles?
>

For most of us it wouldn't - but many DVDs feature same-language
subtitles for the benefit of the hearing-impaired.

Cheers
James
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Re: UFO with subtitles (was: Re: UFO DVD Special Features Poll?)

jamesgibbon
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"anthonyappleyard" wrote:

> What we need is an electronic box that can shrink the TV picture a
> bit and make subtitles run along the resulting space at the bottom
> without clashing with picture detail.

DVD players do exactly that, actually Anthony! With widescreen
material at least ..
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Re: UFO with subtitles (was: Re: UFO DVD Special Features Poll?)

Marc Martin
Administrator
>DVD players do exactly that, actually Anthony! With widescreen
>material at least ..

DVD players also allow you to turn the subtitles on and off,
and it's not clear to me that Anthony understands that...

Marc
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UFO with subtitles (was: Re: UFO DVD Special Features Poll?)

anthonyappleyard <MCLSSAA2@fs2.mt.umist.ac.uk>
--- In SHADO@y..., Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:
> DVD players also allow you to turn the subtitles on and off,
> and it's not clear to me that Anthony understands that...

Sorry. I have bever had a DVD.

If some sort of video player had an option of adding subtitles from a
separate memory, then e.g. a German language subtitle package for UFO
would take up much less memory space than a (complete extra set of 26
UFO episodes dubbed into German) and likely could be downloaded from
the WWW.
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Yuchtar-2
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[hidden email] wrote:

> > Ummmmmmmm, I've heard someone mention this before .... forgive my
> > ignorance, but wasn't UFO made in English to begin with? Why would it
> > need English sub-titles?
>
> Just for us not-native English-speaking people...
> I'm sure I won't have prbls in understanding both Ed Bishop and Mike
> Billington, but subtitles would be a nice option to me...
> Bye.

But ....... Okay, the subtitles are in English too? For people who can
not necessarily understand spoken English completely, but can understand
written English? Is that what you mean? <ponder> Okay, I can understand
that. <nod nod> Sort of. <frown>

-- Y

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atd1999
--- In SHADO@y..., Yuchtar <yuchtr@e...> wrote:
> teresa.c@t... wrote:
>
> > > Ummmmmmmm, I've heard someone mention this before .... forgive
my
> > > ignorance, but wasn't UFO made in English to begin with? Why
would it
> > > need English sub-titles?
> >
> > Just for us not-native English-speaking people...
> > I'm sure I won't have prbls in understanding both Ed Bishop and
Mike
> > Billington, but subtitles would be a nice option to me...
> > Bye.
>
> But ....... Okay, the subtitles are in English too? For people who
can
> not necessarily understand spoken English completely, but can
understand
> written English? Is that what you mean? <ponder> Okay, I can
understand
> that. <nod nod> Sort of. <frown>
>
> -- Y

Subtitles are also known as "closed captioning" - subtitles for the
deaf/hard of hearing. Thus, you would include them in English for
English speaking deaf persons.

The lack of such closed-captioning was brought home by a deaf
gentlemen on the Space:1999 list who for years has only been able to
follow the series via actions,etc. and not dialogue. Imagine the
disappointment when the DVDs didn't include CC.
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Christian J.
--- "atd1999" wrote:
>
> Subtitles are also known as "closed captioning" - subtitles for the
> deaf/hard of hearing. Thus, you would include them in English for
> English speaking deaf persons.


Hey! Thanks, atd1999, for your info!
I've always asked myself what "closed captioned" meant (for English
isn't my native language). At last the riddle is solved :-)

Again, my thanks!
Christian
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Yuchtar-2
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atd1999 wrote:

> --- In SHADO@y..., Yuchtar <yuchtr@e...> wrote:
> > But ....... Okay, the subtitles are in English too? For people who
> can
> > not necessarily understand spoken English completely, but can
> understand
> > written English? Is that what you mean? <ponder> Okay, I can
> understand
> > that. <nod nod> Sort of. <frown>
> >
> > -- Y
>
> Subtitles are also known as "closed captioning" - subtitles for the
> deaf/hard of hearing. Thus, you would include them in English for
> English speaking deaf persons.

OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH! Okay, well THAT makes sense.

> The lack of such closed-captioning was brought home by a deaf
> gentlemen on the Space:1999 list who for years has only been able to
> follow the series via actions,etc. and not dialogue. Imagine the
> disappointment when the DVDs didn't include CC.

Yeah, I ignorantly thought all dvds included CC.
I have, upon occasion, turned on the CC on videos when I've had trouble
understanding the dialog and it has always worked whenever I've tried
it, so I thought all videos had it! <shaking head> I know, I'm clueless.

Thanks, Anthony!

-- Y


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