UFO Movie in the Works

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I'd rather hear that UFO was destined for a Blu-ray release.

Without Gerry Anderson's approval and involvement I can only imagine it will be another total disaster typical of the majority of remakes.

Mark UK



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> I'd rather hear that UFO was destined for a Blu-ray release.

If a UFO movie really does get made, then the likelihood for a Blu-ray
release of the original series goes up I would think. :-) And who
knows, maybe they'd even redo it in the correct aspect ratio, rather
than the current widescreen HDTV transfers.

> Without Gerry Anderson's approval and involvement I can only imagine
> it will be another total disaster typical of the majority of remakes.

Yes, I do not hold up much hopes that this will be any better or more
successful than the THUNDERBIRDS remake... but I'll certainly watch
it no matter how bad it is... :-)

Marc

I was actually terrified when I read about the possible movie of UFO at the io9.com website. After what JJ Abrams did to Trek in this recent release i do NOT want to see what some arsehole will do to my fav all time Brit SF series. Abrams' Trek is pure unadulterated doo-doo - an amalgam of Lucas' first stoooopid Star Wars film of the very late second group, Transformers and a touch of Wrath of Khan. To say this film stunk would be paying it too high a compliment. Poor taste, poor casting, no plotline, stupid villain with no motivation (at least Khan was PO'ed about being left on that hunk o junk planet with those awful worms), and a total ruination of everything Trek stood for. No, if this is what is in store for UFO, I don't wanna see it, much less know another piece of my childhood was raped.....Pam the Canuck....





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> I'd rather hear that UFO was destined for a Blu-ray release.

If a UFO movie really does get made, then the likelihood for a Blu-ray
release of the original series goes up I would think. :-) And who
knows, maybe they'd even redo it in the correct aspect ratio, rather
than the current widescreen HDTV transfers.

> Without Gerry Anderson's approval and involvement I can only imagine
> it will be another total disaster typical of the majority of remakes.

Yes, I do not hold up much hopes that this will be any better or more
successful than the THUNDERBIRDS remake... but I'll certainly watch
it no matter how bad it is... :-)

Marc




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> I was actually terrified when I read about the possible movie of UFO at
> the io9.com website. After what JJ Abrams did to Trek in this recent
> release i do NOT want to see

Well, you don't have to go to the theater to watch it if you don't
want to...

I still maintain, that no matter how good or bad a remake UFO movie is,
it will have the side benefit of raising awareness and interest in the
original series.

Marc

Yes a film *MIGHT* raise awareness of the series, but if the film makes a travesty of the original, it will be a turn off for viewers who have never seen the original and have no idea what the original was like, and why we UFO fans love it so. Look at all those silly teenaged girls who went to see James Cameron's Titanic movie in droves and thought Jack and Rose were REAL passengers on the ship. They poured into the Titanic graves cemetary in Halifax Nova Scotia here on Canada's east coast looking to find headstones named for the characters! And we know what happened to the remake of Thunderbirds.....Pam the Canuck

--- In [hidden email], "Pam McCaughey" <mccaug@...> wrote:
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> Yes a film *MIGHT* raise awareness of the series, but if the film makesa travesty of the original, it will be a turn off for viewers who have never seen the original and have no idea what the original was like, and why we UFO fans love it so. Look at all those silly teenaged girls who went to see James Cameron's Titanic movie in droves and thought Jack and Rose were REAL passengers on the ship. They poured into the Titanic graves cemetary inHalifax Nova Scotia here on Canada's east coast looking to find headstonesnamed for the characters! And we know what happened to the remake of Thunderbirds.....Pam the Canuck
>
Pan I agree with you in all respects. I personally cringe when I hear that a classic will be remaded, war of the worlds, however, a remade can be great if handled right, battlestar galactica.
So made be someone with the right understanding of what the show was about,it views and fans with some intellange, can do a masterful job with it.
the zman

Hi Frank - you have such valid points I cannot disagree with you. Altho I couldn't get into the new BG and of course the OLD BG was not a fav of mine anyhoo, I do understand that sometimes a new take on an old favourite CAN work. I have been looking at an old US TV series called The Invaders (w/Roy Thinnes who starred with Ed Bishop in GA's Journey To The Far Side of the Sun) and when I sourced out info on the 4 hr miniseries based on the original 1960's series the reviews were ALL bad. Apparently it bore little resemblance to the TV show it was supposed to come from and Thinnes was only given a minor cameo role instead of the title role. Word on the Net also says there are remakes coming for shows like The A-Team and others - what will happen to them? Will we get to hear a silver haired cigar chomping leader say "I love it when a plan comes together" ?? Any big black guys with tons of gold jewelry saying "Shut up, fool!" ?? There's even a rumour someone wants to remake The Lone Ranger! Yikes!

I think what happens to many remakes is that the writers/producers are so eager to make a buck, they forget who the REAL fans are and they never make the remakes for those who loved the shows - just some nebulous idea of who might go to it in the theatres in the here and now. But the sad part is - the people they SHOULD be making the remakes for (if they do them right in the first place) are the fans who've kept interest in the shows alive for over 30 yrs (I bow to Marc Martin for this point) - not the teenagers who weren't even gleams in their fathers's eyes when UFO, etc were on TV back in the day. If the movie makers want to increase the movie going demographic for between 35-55 then remake those old TV shows over the way they WERE - with as much of their original charm as possible - and include as many of the original living cast members as possible. Remember what happened to Thunderbirds, Trek, Mission: Impossible, the Avengers - need I say more?

Pam the Canuck






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"There's even a rumour someone wants to remake The Lone Ranger! Yikes!"



Been done once already, with Clinton Spilsbury - the producers at the time
forced Clayton Moore to stop doing his supermarket appearances and didn't
give him a part in the movie at all.



The Mission:Impossible movies are a load of rubbish bearing only the title
and theme music in common. They made Jim Phelps a baddie!! They lost the
whole team thing - the master of disguise, the femme fatale, the electronic
wiz, the heavy, the leader.



If you do a remake - it should stick to the established format and
characters, and as much as possible retain the feel of the original while
tying up loose ends. If the fans don't like it - not much chance an
outsider will either. The mania for doing teenaged versions of established
stories is also anathema.



If the UFO movie does get off the ground and manages to look as if it could
be episode 27, then all well and good. If, on the other hand, it comes out
looking like Independence Day - then it is best it not be made at all.



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Hi Pam,

I think we've both had a mind-meld over this subject. Agree with you, word for word!!!

Kind regards,

Griff

--- In [hidden email], "Pam McCaughey" <mccaug@...> wrote:
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> I was actually terrified when I read about the possible movie of UFO at the io9.com website. After what JJ Abrams did to Trek in this recent releasei do NOT want to see what some arsehole will do to my fav all time Brit SFseries. Abrams' Trek is pure unadulterated doo-doo - an amalgam of Lucas' first stoooopid Star Wars film of the very late second group, Transformers and a touch of Wrath of Khan. To say this film stunk would be paying it toohigh a compliment. Poor taste, poor casting, no plotline, stupid villain with no motivation (at least Khan was PO'ed about being left on that hunk o junk planet with those awful worms), and a total ruination of everything Trek stood for. No, if this is what is in store for UFO, I don't wanna see it, much less know another piece of my childhood was raped.....Pam the Canuck....

And I disagree with both of you. If the original format was good, it
would not have been cancelled. Remakes need to be different to bring
new fans into the fold. If you don't like the remake, then don't watch
it.

Personally, I liked the new Trek movie, and for reasons that dealt
with the increasing inability to make new series and movies that
included everything that every fan wanted to remain consistent. With
the new movie, all of history has been changed from before Kirk's
birth - so they can now tell new stories with a new cast playing the
old, beloved characters with no problems of fans saying "but that's
inconsistent with XXX episode" - it CAN be different because history
has changed.

I liked the original UFO but see nothing wrong with making changes -
even significant changes - if it tells a better story. Frankly, if
they make a movie and it's nothing more than "episode 27" then I'll be
sorely disappointed.

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:01 AM, Griff Wason <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I think we've both had a mind-meld over this subject. Agree with you, word
> for word!!!

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I've been away on vacation for the past couple of weeks so imagine my surprise coming back to all this email about about a UFO movie on my computer.
I am half like Pam who I agree with about the film turn our favorite show into a spoof like so many other of these so called movie remakes that have been done over the past 10 or 15 years. And even when they are not do as a spoof like say Thunderbirds the directors seems bent on screwing things up.
On the other side I too feel like Marc in that it would be nice to have a movie showing people what we found so interesting and enjoyable about the original series in a big budget movie. Of course the odds of that are about the same of winning big in Las Vegas. It happens but not often.
As a student of films and TV I know that we are not going to get a real remake of the original series in a movie. All you have to do is look at all the remakes of of things make over the years and I'm talking about films and no one has ever done a scene by scene line for line remake of anything, Even producers and directors who remake their own pictures don't do it. Hitchcock's 1956 remake of The Man Who Knew Too Much is very different from the 1934 original. And the same can be said for his original The Thirty Nine Steps and the remakes by other directors.
The possitive thing in this is that the producer is if it gets done is going to be Bob Evans who is noted for such films as Rosemary's Baby, Chinatown and other films which have been serious and dark and nature which is prefect for a UFO film. However on the other hand more recently he has done lighter films such as The Phantom and The Saint which most fans of the character Simon Templar from TV, books and the film series hated. The other unpossitive thing is the script is supposedly being done by writers named Ryan Gaudet and Joseph Kanarek. I checked them out and apparently neither has anything listed on IMDB so we are out of luck there for getting a known writer who does good work and serious stuff.
So like in Vegas we will just have to hope our long shot comes in.
Or someone could get Evans and recreate the scene from Chinatown where the guys grab the hero and stick a knife into his nose and show him what happens to naughty little boys.
James K.




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Hi Frank - you have such valid points I cannot disagree with you. Altho I couldn't get into the new BG and of course the OLD BG was not a fav of mine anyhoo, I do understand that sometimes a new take on an old favourite CAN work. I have been looking at an old US TV series called The Invaders (w/Roy Thinnes who starred with Ed Bishop in GA's Journey To The Far Side of the Sun) and when I sourced out info on the 4 hr miniseries based on the original 1960's series the reviews were ALL bad. Apparently it bore little resemblance to the TV show it was supposed to come from and Thinnes was only given a minor cameo role instead of the title role. Word on the Net also says there are remakes coming for shows like The A-Team and others - what will happen to them? Will we get to hear a silver haired cigar chomping leader say "I love it when a plan comes together" ?? Any big black guys with tons of gold jewelry saying "Shut up, fool!" ?? There's even a rumour someone
wants to remake The Lone Ranger! Yikes!

I think what happens to many remakes is that the writers/producers are so eager to make a buck, they forget who the REAL fans are and they never make the remakes for those who loved the shows - just some nebulous idea of who might go to it in the theatres in the here and now. But the sad part is - the people they SHOULD be making the remakes for (if they do them right in the first place) are the fans who've kept interest in the shows alive for over 30 yrs (I bow to Marc Martin for this point) - not the teenagers who weren't even gleams in their fathers's eyes when UFO, etc were on TV back in the day. If the movie makers want to increase the movie going demographic for between 35-55 then remake those old TV shows over the way they WERE - with as much of their original charm as possible - and include as many of the original living cast members as possible. Remember what happened to Thunderbirds, Trek, Mission: Impossible, the Avengers - need I say more?

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> And I disagree with both of you. If the original format was good, it
> would not have been cancelled.

Heh, heh... well "good" is not necessarily the same thing as "popular".
But it would be nice if a UFO remake was both... :-)

> With the new movie, all of history has been changed from before Kirk's
> birth - so they can now tell new stories with a new cast playing the
> old, beloved characters with no problems of fans saying "but that's
> inconsistent with XXX episode" - it CAN be different because history
> has changed.

The problem I had with this new Trek movie was that it was far advanced
in technology compared to the original series, and you cannot explain
away this difference in technology by some minor change in the timeline.
They really should have done a complete remake with no ties to the
original series, rather than pretend that this was somehow related to
the original Trek universe.

And the same thing goes for UFO -- this should be a complete remake,
keeping the elements from UFO that worked, and changing those things
that didn't work, and NOT a continuation of a 40-year TV show that would
be impossible to stay consistent with.

If it was me, the movie would take place more distant in the future than
just 10 years, but they would never really say what year it is (sort of
like "Gattaca" did), and they would show this relatively new
organization (the new "SHADO") fighting off some Alien attacks, while
the commander (the new "Straker") would have flashbacks to his days
before he had this job. So the movie would be a new version of
containing elements of several UFO episodes -- IDENTIFIED (for some
introductory elements), QUESTION OF PRIORITIES and CONFETTI CHECK A-OK
(for flashbacks of his marriage falling apart due to the secrecy and
long hours plus the creation of SHADO), CONFLICT (for the
Straker/Henderson budget conflicts and big change in their
relationship). However, the "Alien fighting" story should be new, so
the whole thing is not a complete rehash of old episodes.

Marc

> However, the "Alien fighting" story should be new, so the whole thing
> is not a complete rehash of old episodes.

... still thinking of ideas for a UFO movie, although really these ideas
are just elements from the original series that I think should be
retained/emphasized for a movie...

It is 20 or so years in the future, and SHADO has been up and running
for a few years. There is some tragic event that causes Straker to
wonder whether or not it has all been worth it, given all of the
sacrifices that have happened in his life and within the organization
(queue the flashbacks!) since the creation of SHADO, and given that the
Alien threat has so far never seemed serious enough to warrant the
billions of dollars spent to create SHADO. Threats of budget cuts or
termination of SHADO seem a possibility, with Henderson thinking that
way too much money is being spent on this, while Straker thinks the
attacks are getting worse, and will continue to get worse. Then a major
UFO incident takes place that SHADO is able to thwart due to its unique
capabilities, which ends up saving a lot of lives (thousands to
millions). Straker and Henderson feel that all of the sacrifice and
money has been worthwhile after all, and SHADO continues on, ready for
the next sequel or spinoff TV series.... :-)

(and the aliens should continue to remain rather mysterious, and their
motives are open to speculation...)

Marc

Hi. Did Ed have a son? If he did doed he act ? It would make it cool if his son could carry on the next chapter in shado

> However, the "Alien fighting" story should be new, so the whole thing
> is not a complete rehash of old episodes.

I forget which website I read this, but this supposedly will be the first script for both Ryan Gaudet and Joseph Kanarek.




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The other unpossitive thing is the script is supposedly being done by writers named Ryan Gaudet and Joseph Kanarek. I checked them out and apparently neither has anything listed on IMDB so we are out of luck there for getting a known writer who does good work and serious stuff.
So like in Vegas we will just have to hope our long shot comes in.
Or someone could get Evans and recreate the scene from Chinatown where the guys grab the hero and stick a knife into his nose and show him what happens to naughty little boys.
James K.


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I would think a retelling of the reason why it was created, its history and
such. The big action sequence would show all the different parts of Shado
operate for the fist time successfully.

The ending scene would be something like while everyone is celebrating a
successful repulsion of the aliens, Straker simply says we won our fist
skirmish, not the war, turns on his heals and leaves.

Bruce

OK - The Movie should set the scene by explaining SHADO and the Aliens.
That will allow those who never saw the show to get the idea. What I meant
by ep27 is it should not be a complete departure from the series and become
something UFO in name only, like Mission: Impossible. It has to at least be
a rough fit (I'm sure there were inconsistencies in the series itself that
anoraks harp on, all series have them. so worrying about those is not worth
the trouble).



The new Doctor Who series shows what can be done to give an old show a new
look and even a new format, while still being recognisable and credible as
part of the original.



Like I said before, setting it in the future gets around the problems noted
with Enterprise and the new Trek movie of more advanced looking equipment
at a point preceding the original.



Another thing they should avoid is setting it in the future, but anchoring
it to now with contemporary speech idioms and music (no hiphop, no wall to
wall swearing etc.).



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Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: UFO Movie in the Works








I would think a retelling of the reason why it was created, its history and
such. The big action sequence would show all the different parts of Shado
operate for the fist time successfully.

The ending scene would be something like while everyone is celebrating a
successful repulsion of the aliens, Straker simply says we won our fist
skirmish, not the war, turns on his heals and leaves.

Bruce





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