What about a new UFO series?

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From: "MICK DICKENS" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: What about a new UFO series?



Reflections in the Water?

Brinke <[hidden email]> wrote:


i always wondered why the aliens didn't think like this:

"Hmmm. They always have just...three...interceptors. How bout
let's send, say, TWENTY saucers."



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That was one of the most amusing episodes for me.
The aliens send 50 saucers, moonbase destroys three, and Capt Carlin
destroys all the 47 remaining!!!
Who needs SHADO when you got Carlin? He's such an over achiever (and his
sister is soooh hot too....)

Dave H.

Captain Carlin? Are you sure?

davrecon <[hidden email]> wrote:The aliens send 50 saucers, moonbase destroys three, and Capt Carlin
destroys all the 47 remaining!!!
Who needs SHADO when you got Carlin? He's such an over achiever (and his
sister is soooh hot too....)

Dave H.

               
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Yesterday night I saw again "Reflexions in the Water" and checked that Carlin wasn't flying Sky - 1: it was another guy, the current comander of Sky Diver.
The interceptors' strike against the second UFO attack wave is quite strange because we are able to see five interceptor's missiles making a hit against UFOs. Other UFOs were engaged by at least two of the lunar flak fire tanks (kinda of German Marder AA Tank). The UFOs fire accuracy is very poor:they shot everything around Moonbase except the proper instalations. The UFOs that got into Earth's atmosphere (first wave of attack) were engaged by SHADO's Red Baron from Sky - 1.  
The battle scene ends with the blowing of a UFO and dissolving to SHADO HQ.That is a way of telling us that the battle itself was more lengthy but that the outcome was obvious. So we can deduce that the other Sky fighter aircraft from the others Sky Divers fleet could (using imagination) have cometo the battle in help of exhausted Sky - 1; is probable that some UFO could make a landing and were engaged by Mobiles and the rest simply lose theirwill to fight and flew away to their planet.

MICK DICKENS <[hidden email]> wrote:

Captain Carlin? Are you sure?

davrecon wrote:The aliens send 50 saucers, moonbase destroys three, and Capt Carlin
destroys all the 47 remaining!!!
Who needs SHADO when you got Carlin? He's such an over achiever (and his
sister is soooh hot too....)

Dave H.


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> Yesterday night I saw again "Reflexions in the Water"
> The interceptors' strike against the second UFO attack wave is quite
> strange because we are able to see five interceptor's missiles making a
> hit against UFOs.

The whole problem I have with that battle scene is that it is 99.9%
recycled from previous episodes. The whole lunar battle scene was
recycled from THE CAT WITH TEN LIVES. And the rest of the battle
was just a collections of bits from previous episodes. The only
new shots were the scenes of dozens of UFOs coming around the
Moon and towards the Earth.

Another issue I have is -- WHAT WERE THEY ATTACKING? Besides
Moonbase, that is. There seems to be no specific Earth target
that I can tell.

Marc

--- In [hidden email], "davrecon" <davrecon@n...> wrote:

> That was one of the most amusing episodes for me.
> The aliens send 50 saucers, moonbase destroys three, and Capt Carlin
> destroys all the 47 remaining!!!
> Who needs SHADO when you got Carlin? He's such an over achiever
(and his
> sister is soooh hot too....)
>

His sister is dead. And had been for 10 years by the time of this attack.

One thing folks are forgetting is that shows like UFO, TOS, TNG, DS9 et al
have had and still retain this own fan bases. Most of these shows had some
good things about them everyone can agree on and obviously they have had an
impact on their fans in order for interest in them to have continued for
over 30 years. I may not personally like 'em all, but there is no disputing
they all have their finer points.

Comparing UFO to Trek, or B5 or BG is a little like comparing apples and
oranges - they have different textures, colours and flavours. And comparing
Straker to Kirk or anyone else is really a silly process now that I've seen
both sides of the conversation a la last year's thread on this site.

Whether GA realized it or not, he did have as a good a rapport between
Straker and Freeman as Kirk and Spock had in TOS, and I think the fans
realized it even tho it wasn't openly discussed in the same manner. Straker
was 'humanized' in some ways by Freeman's more outgoing personality. Freeman
also had an unspoken sympathy for the sad events of Straker's life and knew
they contributed to making him the man he was by the time the UFO story
picked up.

The thing we never got the chance to see, because of UFO's brevity as a
series, was the eventual fleshing out of many of the other characters -
including Freeman, Foster, Lake, etc. We learned about Straker's angst but
didn't get to see anyone else's and I think private angst is what has made
some characters in fiction so interesting - even Stan Lee said he felt the
angst he built into characters like Spiderman and Wolverine contributed to
their popularity.

Pam

What I wrote was "Captain Carlin? Are you sure?" referring to the little detail that Carlin was NOT in Reflections in the Water.

"Hemmings, R.K." <[hidden email]> wrote:
MICK DICKENS wrote:

Old "dead-eye" Carlin? What a guy! :)
--
Rob

> Captain Carlin? Are you sure?
>
> davrecon wrote:The aliens send 50
> saucers, moonbase destroys three, and Capt Carlin
> destroys all the 47 remaining!!!
> Who needs SHADO when you got Carlin?

               
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Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 4:25 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: What about a new UFO series?


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....But she was so hot when she was alive!!!!!

Dave H.

--- In [hidden email], Karl Heidenreich <karlfredshado@y...>
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> Yesterday night I saw again "Reflexions in the Water" and checked
that Carlin wasn't flying Sky - 1: it was another guy, the current
comander of Sky Diver.

Just checking the episode again: Sky 1 is piloted by an unnamed
captain, played by Dave Warbeck. Warbeck is also seen as Skydiver
captain in "Destruction". Like Mike Billington, he tested for the
role of James Bond in 1981 and appears as James Coburn's friend
in "Fistful of Dynamite".

Nick