What cockpit is this from Timelash?

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What cockpit is this from Timelash?

Charlie & Lorraine-2
We were watching Timelash and noticed this cockpit prop in the
background shortly after Ed and Wanda exit the building for the first
time.

Note in the third picture the prop is now missing.

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Lorraine
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SHADO
Interceptor cockpit.

montgolfier100 <[hidden email]> wrote: We were watching Timelash and noticed this cockpit prop in the
background shortly after Ed and Wanda exit the building for the first
time.

Note in the third picture the prop is now missing.

http://tv.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/SHADO/photos/view/d386?b=67

http://tv.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/SHADO/photos/view/d386?b=68&m=s&o=0

http://tv.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/SHADO/photos/view/d386?b=69&m=s&o=0

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Charlie & Lorraine-2
So do you think that while they were filming they noticed that they left it
out there and moved it? Any thoughts on what the circular wooden thing (not
seen in these pictures but seen during the same scene with Ed and Wanda)is?
Lorraine

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Interceptor cockpit.

















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SHADO

I don't know where I heard this, or if I just dreamt it up, but I THINK the circular wooden contraption had something to do with 2001: A Space Odyssey. SPECIFICALLY what, I don't recall. Maybe it was the circular "walkway" in the Aries 1B that the stewardess appears to be defying gravity in by walking "upside down", depicting the weightless environs of outer space. Interesting question about the cockpit. Maybe the outdoor shots in question weren't filmed on the same day, so it had been moved for use elsewhere. I suppose no one knows the real answer to that one...

Jeff
Charles & Lorraine <[hidden email]> wrote:
So do you think that while they were filming they noticed that they left it
out there and moved it? Any thoughts on what the circular wooden thing (not
seen in these pictures but seen during the same scene with Ed and Wanda)is?
Lorraine



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jks
The shots would almost certainly have been scheduled to shot on the same
day - there would have to be extraordinary reasons for them to be scheduled
on different days, given the hurried nature of the production of these
series. To shift the unit more than necessary - even just outside the doors
of the stage is a waste of time to be avoided at almost all costs. The
lighting suggests they were shot on the same day.

Timelash was shot at Pinewood while 2001 was shot at MGM British at
Borehamwood and Shepperton.
While it's not completely impossible that part of a 2001 set made its way to
Pinewood after MGM closed it is extremely unlikely, especially in those days
when Pinewood had its own set building department and union rules at the
time made it almost impossible to bring in set elements made elsewhere.

One large prop made for a Gerry Anderson production by his unit in Slough
had to be discarded and completely remade at Pinewood because of union
rules.

If, part way through the exterior shooting, the art department found that
they needed that cockpit in order to get a set ready for shooting then it
might have been decided that no one would notice that is was missing. If it
came to a decision between leaving the unit with nothing to shoot because a
set wasn't ready or having a minor continuity error which no one was likely
to notice - especially in the days before VCRs were common - then there
would have been no contest.

Regards
John

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I don't know where I heard this, or if I just dreamt it up, but I THINK the
circular wooden contraption had something to do with 2001: A Space Odyssey.
SPECIFICALLY what, I don't recall. Maybe it was the circular "walkway" in
the Aries 1B that the stewardess appears to be defying gravity in by
walking "upside down", depicting the weightless environs of outer space.
Interesting question about the cockpit. Maybe the outdoor shots in question
weren't filmed on the same day, so it had been moved for use elsewhere. I
suppose no one knows the real answer to that one...

Jeff
Charles & Lorraine <[hidden email]> wrote:
So do you think that while they were filming they noticed that they left
it
out there and moved it? Any thoughts on what the circular wooden thing (not
seen in these pictures but seen during the same scene with Ed and Wanda)is?
Lorraine



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SHADO
Thanks for the info, John. Shows how much I know about these things. I did say I might have dreamt (dreamed?) the 2001 scenario, LOL : )

Jeff

JKS <[hidden email]> wrote:
The shots would almost certainly have been scheduled to shot on the same
day - there would have to be extraordinary reasons for them to be scheduled
on different days, given the hurried nature of the production of these
series. To shift the unit more than necessary - even just outside the doors
of the stage is a waste of time to be avoided at almost all costs. The
lighting suggests they were shot on the same day.

Timelash was shot at Pinewood while 2001 was shot at MGM British at
Borehamwood and Shepperton.
While it's not completely impossible that part of a 2001 set made its way to
Pinewood after MGM closed it is extremely unlikely, especially in those days
when Pinewood had its own set building department and union rules at the
time made it almost impossible to bring in set elements made elsewhere.

One large prop made for a Gerry Anderson production by his unit in Slough
had to be discarded and completely remade at Pinewood because of union
rules.

If, part way through the exterior shooting, the art department found that
they needed that cockpit in order to get a set ready for shooting then it
might have been decided that no one would notice that is was missing. If it
came to a decision between leaving the unit with nothing to shoot because a
set wasn't ready or having a minor continuity error which no one was likely
to notice - especially in the days before VCRs were common - then there
would have been no contest.

Regards
John



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