What the....?

Someone once said there are only 4 or 5 basic story lines that all movies are based on.

Bruce
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Deborah Rorabaugh
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:05 PM
  Subject: RE: [SHADO] What the....?


   
  But there are trends - some years it's fill-in-the-blank natural disasters,
  then it's not-so-natural disasters, or giant mutant monsters, or neighbors
  from hell, or science run amok, or superheros.

  _____

  From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
  Bruce Sherman
  Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:44 PM
  To: [hidden email]
  Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

  Flying saucers have always been a popular movie theme dating back to the
  50's where the aliens were communists in disguise.

  Bruce

  From: Deborah Rorabaugh
  Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:40 AM
  To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
  Subject: RE: [SHADO] What the....?

  Well, this is the decade for 'flying saucer' films. How many so far in the
  past couple years?

  War of the Worlds, Skyline, V, Battle Los Angeles, the various rip-offs?

  No surprise that more companies are jumping on that bandwagon.

  _____

  From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of
  Billy Killian
  Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:13 PM
  To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

  It's a old trick in film making that when someone else says they are going
  to
  make a film about such and such that another company will steal er borrow
  the
  idea and often even the title and occassional even the original story idea.
  James K.

  ________________________________
  From: Marc Martin <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com>
  >
  To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Tue, August 16, 2011 10:55:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

  > apparently they are hyping up the vandam angle first, appealing to a
  larger
  >crowd.
  >
  > im sure that things will balance out as the film progresses. how sad for
  this
  >to
  >
  > be the first step though.

  I don't think it's the same movie -- different writer & director. However,
  titled
  "UFO" *and* being filmed in the UK!

  Marc

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--- In [hidden email], "Bruce Sherman" <brucesherman@...> wrote:
>
> Someone once said there are only 4 or 5 basic story lines that all movies are based on.
>
> Bruce


And, of course, there's Gahan Wilson's classic Science-Fiction/Horror Movie Pocket Computer:

http://www.non-volio.de/pup/sf_horror_movie_pocket_computer.html#The%20Science%20Fiction%20Horror%20Movie%20Pocket%20Computer


Michael

There are seven basis plots(at least that the mimium I have seen)
1: Human vs Nature
2: Human vs Self
3: Human vs Human(hero vs villain)
4: Human vs Enviroment
5: Human vs Machine/Technology
6: Human vs Society
7: Human vs Supernatural

James K.




________________________________
From: Bruce Sherman <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wed, August 17, 2011 7:30:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

 
Someone once said there are only 4 or 5 basic story lines that all movies are
based on.

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: Deborah Rorabaugh
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] What the....?

But there are trends - some years it's fill-in-the-blank natural disasters,
then it's not-so-natural disasters, or giant mutant monsters, or neighbors
from hell, or science run amok, or superheros.

_____

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Bruce Sherman
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:44 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

Flying saucers have always been a popular movie theme dating back to the
50's where the aliens were communists in disguise.

Bruce

From: Deborah Rorabaugh
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:40 AM
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [SHADO] What the....?

Well, this is the decade for 'flying saucer' films. How many so far in the
past couple years?

War of the Worlds, Skyline, V, Battle Los Angeles, the various rip-offs?

No surprise that more companies are jumping on that bandwagon.

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of
Billy Killian
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:13 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

It's a old trick in film making that when someone else says they are going
to
make a film about such and such that another company will steal er borrow
the
idea and often even the title and occassional even the original story idea.
James K.

________________________________
From: Marc Martin <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com>
>
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, August 16, 2011 10:55:09 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

> apparently they are hyping up the vandam angle first, appealing to a
larger
>crowd.
>
> im sure that things will balance out as the film progresses. how sad for
this
>to
>
> be the first step though.

I don't think it's the same movie -- different writer & director. However,
titled
"UFO" *and* being filmed in the UK!

Marc

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I hope Marc doesn’t mind me answering this.  All those choices are the same Human vs whatever.  Another more famous storyline is boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl back.

Bruce

From: Billy Killian
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:13 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

 
There are seven basis plots(at least that the mimium I have seen)
1: Human vs Nature
2: Human vs Self
3: Human vs Human(hero vs villain)
4: Human vs Enviroment
5: Human vs Machine/Technology
6: Human vs Society
7: Human vs Supernatural

James K.

________________________________
From: Bruce Sherman <mailto:brucesherman%40sprintmail.com>
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, August 17, 2011 7:30:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

 
Someone once said there are only 4 or 5 basic story lines that all movies are
based on.

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: Deborah Rorabaugh
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] What the....?

But there are trends - some years it's fill-in-the-blank natural disasters,
then it's not-so-natural disasters, or giant mutant monsters, or neighbors
from hell, or science run amok, or superheros.

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce Sherman
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:44 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

Flying saucers have always been a popular movie theme dating back to the
50's where the aliens were communists in disguise.

Bruce

From: Deborah Rorabaugh
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:40 AM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [SHADO] What the....?

Well, this is the decade for 'flying saucer' films. How many so far in the
past couple years?

War of the Worlds, Skyline, V, Battle Los Angeles, the various rip-offs?

No surprise that more companies are jumping on that bandwagon.

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of
Billy Killian
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:13 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

It's a old trick in film making that when someone else says they are going
to
make a film about such and such that another company will steal er borrow
the
idea and often even the title and occassional even the original story idea.
James K.

________________________________
From: Marc Martin <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com>
>
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, August 16, 2011 10:55:09 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

> apparently they are hyping up the vandam angle first, appealing to a
larger
>crowd.
>
> im sure that things will balance out as the film progresses. how sad for
this
>to
>
> be the first step though.

I don't think it's the same movie -- different writer & director. However,
titled
"UFO" *and* being filmed in the UK!

Marc

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Hi All - I have a big hard covered book of SF that lists a number of SF "types" of stories that seem to prevail in literature, comics, movies, TV shows (and yes UFO IS listed in the TV section as is Space 1999 and all of GA's shows). The book lists sub-categories such as alien invasion stories, planetary romances (not boy-girl or any other mashup - romance in this sense is not meant as relationship), time travel, etc. The books authors have gone back to the 1700's to describe precursors of today's SF, citing Thomas More's "Utopia", and of course Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein", moving up to writers such as Jules Verne and H.G. Wells etc. It's a very thoughtful exploration of the antecedents of SF and what we can expect from the future. Pam the Canuck


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Well, we could do a rundown of what basic theme each episode falls under.
(Okay, for many of them it's a subplot or complication since who whole
series is Human vs. Human (alien). But what other immortal themes show up as
side plots or complications?

 

  _____  

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Bruce Sherman
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 1:20 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

 

 

I hope Marc doesn't mind me answering this. All those choices are the same
Human vs whatever. Another more famous storyline is boy meets girl, boy
loses girl, boy gets girl back.

Bruce

From: Billy Killian
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:13 PM
To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>  
Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

There are seven basis plots(at least that the mimium I have seen)
1: Human vs Nature
2: Human vs Self
3: Human vs Human(hero vs villain)
4: Human vs Enviroment
5: Human vs Machine/Technology
6: Human vs Society
7: Human vs Supernatural

James K.

________________________________
From: Bruce Sherman <mailto:brucesherman%40sprintmail.com>
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, August 17, 2011 7:30:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

Someone once said there are only 4 or 5 basic story lines that all movies
are
based on.

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: Deborah Rorabaugh
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] What the....?

But there are trends - some years it's fill-in-the-blank natural disasters,
then it's not-so-natural disasters, or giant mutant monsters, or neighbors
from hell, or science run amok, or superheros.

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of
Bruce Sherman
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:44 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

Flying saucers have always been a popular movie theme dating back to the
50's where the aliens were communists in disguise.

Bruce

From: Deborah Rorabaugh
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:40 AM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [SHADO] What the....?

Well, this is the decade for 'flying saucer' films. How many so far in the
past couple years?

War of the Worlds, Skyline, V, Battle Los Angeles, the various rip-offs?

No surprise that more companies are jumping on that bandwagon.

_____

From: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of
Billy Killian
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:13 PM
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

It's a old trick in film making that when someone else says they are going
to
make a film about such and such that another company will steal er borrow
the
idea and often even the title and occassional even the original story idea.
James K.

________________________________
From: Marc Martin <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com>
>
To: mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, August 16, 2011 10:55:09 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] What the....?

> apparently they are hyping up the vandam angle first, appealing to a
larger
>crowd.
>
> im sure that things will balance out as the film progresses. how sad for
this
>to
>
> be the first step though.

I don't think it's the same movie -- different writer & director. However,
titled
"UFO" *and* being filmed in the UK!

Marc

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Well, I seem to remember one in which girl married boy, girl met other
boy, girl and other boy tried to kill first boy but killed alien instead
- Oops!

:o)

Y


Deborah Rorabaugh wrote:
> Well, we could do a rundown of what basic theme each episode falls under.
> (Okay, for many of them it's a subplot or complication since who whole
> series is Human vs. Human (alien). But what other immortal themes show up as
> side plots or complications?



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Loved Straker's reaction at the end; "Get them out of here!"

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> Well, I seem to remember one in which girl married boy, girl met other
> boy, girl and other boy tried to kill first boy but killed alien instead
> - Oops!
>
> :o)
>
> Y

Ok, Pam.  That's just mean.  What's the book called???????
Love,
Denise (who's grumpy now because the book sounds really cool)

--- In [hidden email], "Pam McCaughey" <mccaug@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All - I have a big hard covered book of SF that lists a number of SF "types" of stories that seem to prevail in literature, comics, movies, TV shows (and yes UFO IS listed in the TV section as is Space 1999 and all of GA's shows). The book lists sub-categories such as alien invasion stories, planetary romances (not boy-girl or any other mashup - romance in this sense is not meant as relationship), time travel, etc. The books authors have gone back to the 1700's to describe precursors of today's SF, citing Thomas More's "Utopia", and of course Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein", moving up to writers such as Jules Verne and H.G. Wells etc. It's a very thoughtful exploration of the antecedents of SF and what we can expect from the future. Pam the Canuck
>
>
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>

It wouldn't be  'Science Fiction the Illustrated Encyclopedia'  by John Clute?
http://www.amazon.com/Science-Fiction-Encyclopedia-John-Clute/dp/0789401851

Nat



________________________________
From: Neesierie <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:22 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: What the....?


 
Ok, Pam.  That's just mean.  What's the book called???????
Love,
Denise (who's grumpy now because the book sounds really cool)
_,_._,___

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I don't know. Is that a good reference book on sci-fi? Because I own "The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Science Fiction" by David Pringle, and it's a piece of crap where the only redeeming quality in the entire book is a nice shot of Straker in his car. I'd really like to read a good sci-fi reference book.
Yours,
Denise

--- In [hidden email], Natalie Foster <somethingthatsaysme@...> wrote:

I think so.  Here's an excerpt...

'THE HISTORY OF SCIENCE FICTION...
Covering the history of the genre in all its forms, and lavishly illustrated with images from books, films, magazines, comics, and graphic novels, Science Fiction: The Illustrated Encyclopedia presents one-of-a-kind, decade-by-decade time charts with facinating insight into the cultural influences tht shaped the Science Fiction of each period.'

The decade by decade time line I find quite helpful.

Nat



________________________________
From: Neesierie <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 4:21 AM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: What the....?


 
I don't know. Is that a good reference book on sci-fi? Because I own "The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Science Fiction" by David Pringle, and it's a piece of crap where the only redeeming quality in the entire book is a nice shot of Straker in his car. I'd really like to read a good sci-fi reference book.
Yours,
Denise

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Natalie,
That actually does sound intriguing.  I'll check it out.  Thanks!
Yours,
Denise

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