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Where has all the creativity gone?

Denise Felt
>Chris Kirtley <[hidden email]>
inquired:
>Well, I'll tell you - it wasn't just moon landings -
>in the '70s WE (as a people) did so much! Gerry &
>Silvia made Thunderbirds, Captain Scarlett, Stingray,
>and UFO. I have never seen anything like this
>creativity since.
>
>And I think it is time we discussed why this is.

Chris,
I can't tell you where all the creativity is gone, but I too have noticed a
huge lack of it in all forms of the media. (Which works just fine for those
of us who still possess it, because we look really good by comparison!
*grin*) Personally, I believe that we as a society are not required to
think much any more, which would have a definite impact on creative levels.
Or it could be aliens reprogramming our minds. Take your pick.
Denise

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Re: Where has all the creativity gone?

anthonyappleyard <MCLSSAA2@fs2.mt.umist.ac.uk>
--- In SHADO@y..., "Denise Felt" <neesierie@h...> wrote:
> ... I can't tell you where all the creativity is gone, but I too
> have noticed a huge lack of it in all forms of the media. ...

It could merely be that so many possible themes have already been
used that it gets harder and harder to think of a new theme that is
not similar to an existing theme.
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Re: Where has all the creativity gone?

Denise Felt
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>"anthonyappleyard" <[hidden email]>
wrote:
>It could merely be that so many possible themes have already been
>used that it gets harder and harder to think of a new theme that is
>not similar to an existing theme.

I suppose it's possible, Anthony. But in spite of the maxim that there's
nothing new under the sun, some people insist on creating new and wonderful
concepts in every area of life every day. Why do you think that is? Are we
just too stupid to realize that we can't? *grin* Or could it be that
Shakespeare was right, and there actually is more in heaven and earth than
is dreamt of in our philosophy? UFO was an incredible show, with excellence
in so many areas that it has long outlived the more popular shows of its
time. And since I've enjoyed many books, tv shows, and movies since then
that also carried that special mark of excellence, I simply can't accept
that creativity is too hard to do now. I think perhaps it's that people
don't want to work hard enough to get it for themselves. Wouldn't you
agree?
Yours,
Denise

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Re: Where has all the creativity gone?

Christian J.
--- Denise Felt wrote:

> UFO was an incredible show, with excellence in so many
> areas that it has long outlived the more popular shows
> of its time.

Hi, Denise!

Just curious: which more popular shows of its time do you mean?

Christian
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Re: Where has all the creativity gone?

Denise Felt
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>"memorymetropolis" <[hidden email]>
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>Just curious: which more popular shows of its time do you mean?

Exactly my point, Christian. Who even remembers the Neilsen top ten from
the early 70's? There simply was nothing memorable about them, at least the
ones my family watched. (I qualify that statement, because there may be
Battlestar Galactica, etc. fans among us.) I can't speak for British TV,
because I wasn't watching it. But I'd be interested if you could come up
with a program from that time period that had UFO's class other than Star
Trek. And I'm not restricting it to sci-fi only.

Some things just break all the established norms and create their own class.
It's one of the reasons why UFO is still enjoyed to this day, purple wigs
and all. *grin*
Denise


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Re: Where has all the creativity gone?

Harrison, Bruce
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Uhmmm, what about 'On The Buses'?

-----Original Message-----
From: Denise Felt [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2002 13:05
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: Where has all the creativity gone?


>"memorymetropolis" <[hidden email]>
wrote:
>Just curious: which more popular shows of its time do you mean?

Exactly my point, Christian. Who even remembers the Neilsen top ten from
the early 70's? There simply was nothing memorable about them, at least the

ones my family watched. (I qualify that statement, because there may be
Battlestar Galactica, etc. fans among us.) I can't speak for British TV,
because I wasn't watching it. But I'd be interested if you could come up
with a program from that time period that had UFO's class other than Star
Trek. And I'm not restricting it to sci-fi only.

Some things just break all the established norms and create their own class.

It's one of the reasons why UFO is still enjoyed to this day, purple wigs
and all. *grin*
Denise


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Re: Where has all the creativity gone?

Chris Kirtley
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Dear Denise and all,

Thanks for keeping this thread going. OK - here are
the great shows, starting from about 1962:

Dr. Who (which is the only one still going, I think)
Star Trek
Stingray
Thunderbirds
Captain Scarlett
Joe 90
UFO
The Champions (there's a Tremayne list, BTW)
Department X (with the fabulous Jason King)
Space 1999 (which I hated)
The Six Million Dollar Man
The Bionic Woman ... about 1978

I'd like someone to tell me which shows coming after
this had such creativity.

Chris


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Re: Where has all the creativity gone?

Chris Kirtley
Whoops... knew I'd forget one:
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Re: Where has all the creativity gone?

jamesgibbon
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"Denise Felt" wrote:
which more popular shows of its time do you mean?
>
> Exactly my point, Christian. Who even remembers the Neilsen
> top ten from the early 70's?

If you mean the Badfinger song recorded by Nilsson, "Without
You", LOTS of people I should think!

I disagree on your main point - there are a lot of TV programmes
from the late '60s, early '70s that are as well remembered as
UFO, and I think that there have been some tremendously creative
programmes since then as well, right up to the present day.