Wikipaedia

Just had a look at the UFO page on Wikipaedia - I think it needs some
editing!

> Just had a look at the UFO page on Wikipaedia - I think it needs some
> editing!

And what exactly would you change?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_%28TV_series%29

Marc

I didn't think all the consoles etc were sold to the BBC but were
rented out. otherwise how did they turn up in all those ITV shows
and films!

I thought it was a couple of days in our atmosphere not a couple of
hours.

Almost human in appearance, um, what isn't human aboput their
appearance apart from the green tint?

What uniforms were recycled for Space:1999?

I've never considered Straker to be a recovering alcoholic - is it
mentioned anywhere?

I thought Strakers car was aluminium not fibreglass?

Correct me if I'm wrong - I'll own up to mistakes in my aging memory!


--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > Just had a look at the UFO page on Wikipaedia - I think it needs
some
> > editing!
>
> And what exactly would you change?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_%28TV_series%29
>
> Marc
>

> I didn't think all the consoles etc were sold to the BBC but were
> rented out. otherwise how did they turn up in all those ITV shows
> and films!

Hmmm, I don't know which is correct, and also I don't think this
is an important enough point to be in an encyclopedia entry.

> I thought it was a couple of days in our atmosphere not a couple of
> hours.

Yes, I agree with that.

> Almost human in appearance, um, what isn't human aboput their
> appearance apart from the green tint?

True.

> What uniforms were recycled for Space:1999?

None that I know of.

> I've never considered Straker to be a recovering alcoholic - is it
> mentioned anywhere?

I think people have speculated this based on his refusal to drink
(even though he got drunk on his wedding day). But since this is
never specifically stated in the series, I agree that it doesn't
belong.

> I thought Strakers car was aluminium not fibreglass?

That's my understanding...

So are you going to update the entry? I see that this entry has
been edited about a hundred times in the past 2 years (I haven't
even read the whole thing, let alone edited it)

Marc

> So are you going to update the entry? I see that this entry has
> been edited about a hundred times in the past 2 years (I haven't
> even read the whole thing, let alone edited it)
>
> Marc
>
I've created an account to edit it but can't seem to change the top
first article. In this bit I wouldn't say that it was his first use
of "live actors" but filming "live action". Actually no I'd change it
to his first totally live-action TV show.

Also would you say the Aliens are "attacking" Earth? On the whole not
really - any thoughts on this?

Barry

> Actually no I'd change it to his first totally live-action TV show.

Yes, that would be the most accurate, as Doppelganger was a
live action move, and The Secret Service had live action
elements in a TV show.

> Also would you say the Aliens are "attacking" Earth?

In my UFO FAQ, I say that the Aliens are "coming" to
Earth and kidnapping humans.

Marc

Well I've made a few changes and messed up one line so it doesn't read
quite right now. I'll have to have a think about that one first
though...


--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

As long as we're on the subject of the UFO Wikipedia entry, here's
something else I noticed:

"As with all the later Anderson series, the special effects,
supervised by Derek Meddings, were of the highest quality and
outstanding for their day,..."

This passage is wrong. If I recall correctly, Derek Meddings had no
involvement with the special effects of Space:1999, which would be
considered a "later Anderson series".

Jeff

--- In [hidden email], "naughtyhector" <rod.mitchell@...>
wrote:
>
> Well I've made a few changes and messed up one line so it doesn't
read
> quite right now. I'll have to have a think about that one first
> though...
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:
> >
> > > Actually no I'd change it to his first totally live-action TV
show.

> "As with all the later Anderson series, the special effects,
> supervised by Derek Meddings, were of the highest quality and
> outstanding for their day,..."
>
> This passage is wrong. If I recall correctly, Derek Meddings had no
> involvement with the special effects of Space:1999, which would be
> considered a "later Anderson series".

And of course there are even later series still -- Terrahawks,
Space Precinct, and the new Captain Scarlet!

UFO is more of the "height" of Anderson's series, not later... :-)

Marc

Also, as long as I'm in nitpicking mode, this passage, too, is
incorrect:

"The show's opening sequence begins by showing the (remarkable for
the time) image of the removal of one of the contact lenses from an
obviously real eye with a pair of forceps".

It (the contact lens)wasn't removed with forceps (which are similar
to a sort of tweezers, or pliers). It was removed with what
appeared to be some type of suction cup gizmo.

Jeff
--- In [hidden email], "nafofu" <1shado1@...> wrote:
>
> As long as we're on the subject of the UFO Wikipedia entry, here's
> something else I noticed:
>
> "As with all the later Anderson series, the special effects,
> supervised by Derek Meddings, were of the highest quality and
> outstanding for their day,..."
>
> This passage is wrong. If I recall correctly, Derek Meddings had
no
> involvement with the special effects of Space:1999, which would be
> considered a "later Anderson series".
>
> Jeff
>
> --- In [hidden email], "naughtyhector" <rod.mitchell@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Well I've made a few changes and messed up one line so it
doesn't
> read
> > quite right now. I'll have to have a think about that one first
> > though...
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Actually no I'd change it to his first totally live-action
TV

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > "As with all the later Anderson series, the special effects,
> > supervised by Derek Meddings, were of the highest quality and
> > outstanding for their day,..."
> >
> > This passage is wrong. If I recall correctly, Derek Meddings had
no

Excellent point, Marc! And more nitpickiness on my part:

"Captured aliens are human in appearance except for the green hue of
their skin caused by breathing a green oxygenated liquid, which is
believed to cushion their bodies against the extreme acceleration of
interstellar flight."

Once again, correct me if I'm wrong, but the green tint wasn't caused
by "breathing a green oxygenated liquid". The green tint of the
liquid was ABSORBED by the skin. Also, wasn't it only the head that
turned green, being in contact with the fluid? The hands were always
flesh tone. Yes, I'm getting REALLY nitpicky, now. : )

Jeff

I added the "green hue" bit as it wasn't mentioned. It still needs
work to iron out a few things but my brain wasn't firing on all
cylinders last night...actually I wish I'd kept a copy of the page
before starting to make changes.

Barry

I wasn't happy with the forceps bit but as I was recording Torchwood
I couldn't bung a DVD on to see what it was being used.

Barry


--- In [hidden email], "nafofu" <1shado1@...> wrote:
>
> Also, as long as I'm in nitpicking mode, this passage, too, is
> incorrect:
>
> "The show's opening sequence begins by showing the (remarkable for
> the time) image of the removal of one of the contact lenses from
an
> obviously real eye with a pair of forceps".
>
> It (the contact lens)wasn't removed with forceps (which are
similar
> to a sort of tweezers, or pliers). It was removed with what
> appeared to be some type of suction cup gizmo.
>
> Jeff

Good point!

I have a bit of trouble with articles that keep praising Meddings to
the sky. Yes, he was an exceptional effects guy but the Lydeckers had
done the same sort of excellent work before him.

Barry


--- In [hidden email], "nafofu" <1shado1@...> wrote:

How about something like...

Meddings work reached a pinnacle of excellence with this his last work
for the Anderson's TV shows. He left and had an extensive movie career
winning an Oscar as part of the effects team on Superman: The Movie.

Barry


--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > "As with all the later Anderson series, the special effects,
> > supervised by Derek Meddings, were of the highest quality and
> > outstanding for their day,..."
> >
> > This passage is wrong. If I recall correctly, Derek Meddings had
no

I've amended the first two lines to this...

Captured aliens are human in appearance except for the green hue of
their face caused by breathing a green oxygenated liquid, which is
believed to cushion their lungs against the extreme acceleration of
interstellar flight.

Anyone see a problem with this?

Barry
> Excellent point, Marc! And more nitpickiness on my part:
>
> "Captured aliens are human in appearance except for the green hue
of
> their skin caused by breathing a green oxygenated liquid, which is
> believed to cushion their bodies against the extreme acceleration
of
> interstellar flight."
>
> Once again, correct me if I'm wrong, but the green tint wasn't
caused
> by "breathing a green oxygenated liquid". The green tint of the
> liquid was ABSORBED by the skin. Also, wasn't it only the head
that
> turned green, being in contact with the fluid? The hands were
always
> flesh tone. Yes, I'm getting REALLY nitpicky, now. : )
>
> Jeff
>

One of the nice things about wikis - they have built in change control. You
can always go back and look at pages at any point in time.

On 10/26/06, naughtyhector <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> actually I wish I'd kept a copy of the page
> before starting to make changes.
>





--
Mario

http://mario.silent-tower.org/


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Yes. It still says that the green hue was caused by BREATHING the liquid. I could have sworn that in a couple episodes it was said that the skin ABSORBED the green tint. So even though the aliens WERE breathing a green oxygenated liquid, the skin turning green was not caused by the act of BREATHING it, but rather by being in contact with it. : )

Jeff
P.S. Thanks for your efforts!

naughtyhector <[hidden email]> wrote:
I've amended the first two lines to this...

Captured aliens are human in appearance except for the green hue of
their face caused by breathing a green oxygenated liquid, which is
believed to cushion their lungs against the extreme acceleration of
interstellar flight.

Anyone see a problem with this?

Barry
> Excellent point, Marc! And more nitpickiness on my part:
>
> "Captured aliens are human in appearance except for the green hue
of
> their skin caused by breathing a green oxygenated liquid, which is
> believed to cushion their bodies against the extreme acceleration
of
> interstellar flight."
>
> Once again, correct me if I'm wrong, but the green tint wasn't
caused
> by "breathing a green oxygenated liquid". The green tint of the
> liquid was ABSORBED by the skin. Also, wasn't it only the head
that
> turned green, being in contact with the fluid? The hands were
always
> flesh tone. Yes, I'm getting REALLY nitpicky, now. : )
>
> Jeff
>






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Even though "forceps" doesn't appear to be accurate, it admittedly still SOUNDS better than my use of "suction cup gizmo", LOL!

Jeff

naughtyhector <[hidden email]> wrote:
I wasn't happy with the forceps bit but as I was recording Torchwood
I couldn't bung a DVD on to see what it was being used.

Barry

--- In [hidden email], "nafofu" <1shado1@...> wrote:
>
> Also, as long as I'm in nitpicking mode, this passage, too, is
> incorrect:
>
> "The show's opening sequence begins by showing the (remarkable for
> the time) image of the removal of one of the contact lenses from
an
> obviously real eye with a pair of forceps".
>
> It (the contact lens)wasn't removed with forceps (which are
similar
> to a sort of tweezers, or pliers). It was removed with what
> appeared to be some type of suction cup gizmo.
>
> Jeff






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To each his own. My problem isn't the praise of Meddings abilities, per se, but the statement about his work in "later Anderson series" (inferring Space:1999, etc.). The effects in Space:1999 SUCKED compared to Meddings work, and he shouldn't be credited with doing them by inference. Just my 2 cents...

Jeff

naughtyhector <[hidden email]> wrote:
Good point!

I have a bit of trouble with articles that keep praising Meddings to
the sky. Yes, he was an exceptional effects guy but the Lydeckers had
done the same sort of excellent work before him.

Barry

--- In [hidden email], "nafofu" <1shado1@...> wrote:





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