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RE: UFO/Space:1999 continuity

Marc Martin
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Okay, I put the question about that old Starlog column on the Mark IX
Hawks to David Hirsch, who was the editor of "Gerry Anderson's Space
Report". Here's his response:

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From: David Hirsch
To: Marc Martin
Subject: Re: Old Starlog article question

Hi Mark,

Gerry always had feedback on columns I had to "ghost write" to fill
in when he was unavailable to write anything of length (i.e. the
three part "Mysterious Unknown Force" article). I believe he was knee
deep in the pre-production on "Five Star Five" at that time and I had
to cover for him.

First off, the answer is yes, we did make up the Hawk connection to
"UFO" howver, Gerry did originally helm detailed pre-production
scripts and design work on "UFO" series 2, which, when cancelled by
Lew Grade, was heavily adapted into "Space: 1999" series 1.

In point of fact, Gerry and Sylvia wrote a brief pilot script, I
forget the premise other than the fact that aliens landed on the
moon, but it did have the same feel as a "UFO" story. The many
writers that eventually contribited to fleshing out "Space: 1999's"
premise (George Bellak, Chris Penfold, etc.) deleated any connection
to "UFO."

Gerry and I though it would be fun to link the universes
unofficially, much the same way his Supermarionation shows were.

Frankly, I'd recommend taking the position Mike and Denise Okuda do
for their Star Trek Encyclopedia; "If it didn't appear on screen, it
never happened."

Hope this helps.

Dave
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RE: UFO/Space:1999 continuity

Marc Martin
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>In point of fact, Gerry and Sylvia wrote a brief pilot script, I
>forget the premise other than the fact that aliens landed on the
>moon, but it did have the same feel as a "UFO" story.

Note that the pilot script that David Hirsch is referring to is
available on the Space:1999 Catacombs website:

http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/main/pguide/xezg.html

However, to me, this script doesn't really seem to have much
(if anything) from UFO left in it.

Marc
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moonbase layout & interceptor bays

davrecon-3
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> An intdresting thought occured to me after reading this. Since we never
actually see how the pilots get into their ships, I wonder just how they do
do it.The launch bay would have to be presurerized so that they could be
able to climb into the cockpit. I wouldn't think that they would move them
into the launch bay from somewhere else since this would waste time. You
would have to have an area where they could work on the craft thought, so
that there would have to be hangers and a system to get them to that area if
they were in a non flyable condition.Just how extensive is MoonBase below
the surface? There is no way that the surface installation is all that there
is. Just how long did it take to get everything up there and set up?Anyone
seen any "Plans" for the underground area or is this just another area that
we have to take a SWAG at?By the way, I do enjoy getting into the technical
side of side of things. You should see my collection of UNCLE tech manuals
and stuff that I have extrapolated on my own based on the show. Guess that
makes me a "True" fan (Or Fanatic...)
>

If you're really interested, I've got some ideas about that. Just for
craps & gigs, I drew up a complete moonbase complex, with interceptor bays
and vehicles on AutoCAD one time, trying to work out all these dilemmas I
was having with the program.
If you're interested, we might be able to e-mail an exchange of ideas
about that stuff....
cheers Dave
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Re: moonbase layout & interceptor bays

GOTHIC39
I figure that the hangers/bays are deep under the pads. I think they will
have the pilots in a standby room ready go at a moment notice. Glenn


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Re: moonbase layout & interceptor bays

harada357
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Please share the autocad plans or sketches with the group.

I always believed that the Interceptor pilots used the slide into flight seats just below the surface of moonbase. The chairs would then follow a rail system out to the launch pad and insert the pilots into the craft. The chairs would lock into the cockpit for launch. The ride out to the interceptor must be like a quick roller coaster ride to cover the distance for a scamble launch. The Interceptor launch pads had to be located far enough away from moonbase so that if there was a launch accident, the explosion would not engulf moonbase C&C as well. Gordon.
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Re: moonbase layout & interceptor bays

davrecon-3

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> Please share the autocad plans or sketches with the group.
>

How? I don't think they allow attatchments here do they? Otherwise I
guess I could include VGA digital photographs of screenshots.

> I always believed that the Interceptor pilots used the slide into flight
seats just below the surface of moonbase. The chairs would then follow a
rail system out to the launch pad and insert the pilots into the craft. The
chairs would lock into the cockpit for launch. The ride out to the
interceptor must be like a quick roller coaster ride to cover the distance
for a scamble launch. The Interceptor launch pads had to be located far
enough away from moonbase so that if there was a launch accident, the
explosion would not engulf moonbase C&C as well. Gordon.
>

My take is that, the pilots lounge around the Interceptor's Ready Room
(that "lounge" we see frequently in the show) until a launch alert. They
slide down the tubes, and those helmets they put on are merely for not
knocking their heads on the way down. They come out of the tubes in a room
next to the interceptor silos. This room is pressurized.
This is where the fanatical canonists will have a fit-....
In this room they don their full pressure suits, then all three of them
at once cram into a small volume airlock. The airlock is part of a twin
duplicated airlock system consisting of the small express airlock, and a
larger volume "capacitor" airlock, side by side. The larger airlock is
always kept in a decompressed state. The first airlock is explosivly
decompressed into the larger one next door, thus immediatly reducing the
pressure to only a fraction of the base normal pressure and drastically
reducing the time to outer door openning. The remaining air in the first
lock is then pumped across to the second with a high volume pump. Thus very
little of the base's precious air is lost....with the primary fill of the
express lock being recovered in the larger lock next door.
The express lock door is openned, and the three pilots then bound across
the lift plattens to climb into their respective ships, much like regular
fighter pilots do on the strip.
There is no other practical way that I can think of to do this, given
what the producers have given us to work with....
As for maintenance spaces for the interceptors, moonmobiles and missile
carriers, they are also covered in the drawings, as well as bomb storage,
and offloading from the LM and transport to the underground bay.

OK, slam me.....
Dave H.
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Re: moonbase layout & interceptor bays

davrecon-3
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......The Interceptor launch pads had to be located far enough away from
moonbase so that if there was a launch accident, the explosion would not
engulf moonbase C&C as well. Gordon.
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....Naturally....but of course, no danger from landing a fully laden Lunar
Module on it's tail, directly on top of a moonbase sphere.... aye Gerry?,
aye Reg?
Dave H.
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