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Re: Thunderbirds Remake - Going Nowhere Fast

Posted by Griff on Jun 27, 2009; 6:44pm
URL: https://www.shado-forum.com/Thunderbirds-Remake-Going-Nowhere-Fast-tp1512377p1512397.html

Hi John,

Yes. On reflection, that (tricky) was a glib comment that didn't at all reflect MY personal opinion on this area.

As they say, "if it feels wrong, it normally is". There is something certainly distasteful, uncomfortable about portraying someone after they have passed on, even if it was with their or their families permission. It's bad enough, sometimes upsetting and hard to watch a deceased loved one in a photoor video, let a lone, have newly created imagery, or even whole films. I feel for the families of anyone who has a family member portrayed on the bigor little screen who has passed away. I know quite a few people in the profession, and in some cases seeing their own much younger persona replayed over and over on Sky/satellite can be upsetting, almost 'rubbing in' the fact that they are no longer who or what they used to be and able to portray, and knowing it will go on and on seemingly forever.

I know a few others who are quite comfortable with this idea. I don't know,call it vanity, knowing that a performance they once did, will be seen maybe even hundreds of years after they are no more.

The trouble is John, this technology and 'virtual acting' WILL and IS goingto happen, it is starting to happen, and will change entirely the potential role of actors on screen, even possibly taking their 'power/bankability away'. The possibility to have 'perfect people, and perfect performances. This has been touched on in another email, but it will happen, and probably "because there is a lot of money involved" happen in the worst way. I know for a fact, that at this moment, discussion are going on to continue film sagas where the original actors have become too old, and "youngen then up" and then portray them maybe again and again... and WITH the actors permission! The actor while they are alive will get payments, and where appropriate marketing royalties, as though they had played then role. This is happening now. Some of the most popular big named episodic films are going to get this treatment, where the actors are too old and craggy to act in the films themselves. They will get billing, and they will be on the big screen, BUT itwon't be them!

My sister is a professional violinist, and she and the orchestra she plays with were furious and really offended recently, when they discovered that instead of recording a few performances, and then the producer picking the best one, the orchestra played three 'takes', and then the three were patched together, slightly speeded up, parts unpicked, and augmented, and then portrayed as a solid 'live' performance, and stuck out it out on CD. Of course, this has been going on for years in the pop world, but this is new to classical music and is a detrimental step.

Expect this sort of treatment in the film/TV world...

To cross the chasm to then portraying that same actor in a new role after they have passed on is a whole different ball game.

One of the last 'performance' by Marlon Brando was a speaking role in the "Godfather" game. But, they unbeknownst to everyone also portrayed a visual likeness of his 'character'. Marlon Brando (and his family) had no copyright to the Godfather 'likeness' used in the game, and hence there was no caseto answer...

...this area is also going to be 'tricky', if I can use that word again...

BTW, Of course I know UFO will never be made (certainly by Gerry Anderson) in the way I envisaged in my previous post. Of course I know this. Frankly,I would rather that 'they' leave UFO completely alone. This movie idea currently being circulated fills me with the creeping horrors. What I meant though is that if it had to happen, I would rather Gerry do it, and using Hypermarionation techniques.

I'll post the technical details of the 'virtual actor' technique (mentionedin a previous post) a little later.

Thanks,

Griff

--- In [hidden email], "john_nhojuk" <jks@...> wrote:
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> Griff wrote:
> This moral angle is always going to be a tricky one.
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> About as tricky a moral dilemma as grave robbing, in my humble opinion.
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> Regards
> John