Posted by pyschobomb on
URL: https://www.shado-forum.com/Ed-Bishop-s-cut-2001-A-Space-Odyssey-scenes-tp2094149p2217415.html

Oh Please God no!

--- On Sat, 1/8/11, Hemmings, Rob K. <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Hemmings, Rob K. <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: Ed Bishop scenes Battle Beneath the Earth
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 2:45 PM







 



 


   
     
     
      It's interesting how 'Hollywood baddies' have become Europeans

since those times.  Half of them seem to be Alan Rickman teething

a dodgy Eastern European accent! :o)  

I wonder if they will begin to become 'Far Eastern' again, now there

are more perceived threats and a rising world power originating

from China and it's surrounds?  I suspect not, as it seems there is less

xenophobia around in Hollywood these days, thankfully.

If the UFO film ever sees the light of day, let's hope the aliens are still

mute, or we might be seeing a green-tinted Mr. Rickman..  He would

make a *superb* Dr. Jackson though!  

--

Rob



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Sent: 08 January 2011 13:32

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Subject: [SHADO] Re: Ed Bishop scenes Battle Beneath the Earth



"Bruce Sherman" wrote:



Could they have not been North Koreans or North Vietnamese, or even Japanese? :)



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Japan has not been considered a military threat since the end of the war. North Korea was very isolated after the end of the Korean War and not considered a threat to the outside world until relatively recently. The North Vietnamese were also little threat to countries outside their immediate vicinity but the Vietnam War was then an actual, as opposed to cold, war with large numbers of people dying.



Such conflicts are rarely the subject of film and TV shows while they are happening, not least because of the possibility of becoming dated very quickly. In the case of Vietnam the conflict was extremely controversial not only within the US but especially elsewhere. A fantasy/adventure production aimed at a general worldwide audience usually doesn't want to have to deal with such controversial subjects as, whatever stance it takes, it is likely to alienate much of the audience. Worse, it may put off the local distributors and broadcasters even buying it in the first place.



In all the ITC series the main generic (terrestrial) threats to "The West" are Warsaw Pact or Chinese - which accords with mainstream thinking of the time. Where there are other governments (as opposed to individuals) which are portrayed as "baddies" they are usually unnamed countries, often African, Middle Eastern or South American and their threat is local or at least a minor threat to, say, "Western Interests".

Significantly, those episodes usually need more backstory or personal involvement by the protagonists to convince the audience that our heroes are on the "right" side. This is less necessary when the Soviet Union and its allies or China is the antagonist.



Regards

John



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