Posted by Bruce Sherman on
URL: https://www.shado-forum.com/New-in-the-SHADO-Library-tp3037403p3061215.html

Just some more comments about Star Trek and Kirks Gravestone.

Like I mentioned,The episode title is Where no man has gone before.  This is actually the second pilot filmed.  When they show the gravestone, its not a freeze frame kind of thing, but very easy for people to read.

When in the episodes Kirk goes This is Capt James T Kirk... This was filmed after the second pilot, so T is actually the mistake.  But is accepted as correct now.

I am sure most know the above, just making sure we all know it ;)

Bruce
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: D.A. Rorabaugh
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:02 PM
  Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: UFO Bloopers


   
  It really all goes back to the fact the Anderson and his writers weren't as
  careful in logic and continuity for UFO as later writers for later series
  were expected to be. I mean, how could they have possibly guessed that 40+
  years later people would be arguing about details and trying to make it all
  work logically.

  Even Roddenberry - who was noted for his meticulousness - let things through
  on STtos. He never imagined people would freeze frame Kirk's gravestone,
  make out what was on it and then argue about what it meant when later
  scripts and the films disagreed with it.

  Fan writers can do their best to come up with explanations, but no matter
  what, there are things that just don't work without a lot of creative
  finessing. (Like Ford saying he'd been 'with them' for 2 years when we also
  know he was one of the first recruits. You can skew the timeline to make
  both statements true, but then that makes for unreasonable issues with
  Straker's marriage and the visual cues given in AQoP don't support more than
  a few years between the wedding and Johnny's birth.)

  One can argue until they're blue in the face that one solution or another is
  the best explanation, but frankly, some of these things just don't hang
  together rationally and no amount of finessing is going to make it ALL work
  together and have it work with the world as the rest of us know it.

  As a writer, I choose which discrepancies I'm going work to make fit
  together and which ones I'm going to ignore or minimize. And frankly, (IMHO)
  if you can't come up with more than solution for a problem, you're not
  really trying. *grin*

  _____

  From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marc
  Martin
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 9:54 AM
  To: [hidden email]
  Subject: RE: [SHADO] Re: UFO Bloopers

  Also, we see that Chris Bentley thinks Johnny was born in 1972, which puts
  a QUESTION OF PRIORITIES in 1980. As I said before, I think 1972 seems
  reasonable from the point of view of Ed & Mary's marriage, but is not
  reasonably considering all of the progress they had made with SHADO
  HQ and their first batch of recruits.

  Marc

  On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 08:51 -0700, "D.A. Rorabaugh" <[hidden email]
  <mailto:momkat%40dandello.net> > wrote:
  > I'd seen some of the text on Straker before and it made me laugh - Straker
  > 'took it upon himself' to prove there was a threat when we saw on screen
  > that it was Henderson who was in the lead in convincing world leaders of
  the
  > threat. LOL At least they got the height right for an American astronaut
  of
  > the time.

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