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andelendir on
URL: https://www.shado-forum.com/what-about-ufo-tp3939792p3941472.html
Hi!
If you can cite more than a dozen US remakes of European movies (which is by the way what we are talking about here, rather than individual Americans) of the last 3 decades which are more intelligent, controversial, politically/culturally daring than the originals (or at least on the same level) and aimed at an adult audience at the same time (rather than at teenage males), I think you might have a basis for that demand, as then you have a point made. Otherwise I really do not see it. Blindly taking umbrage is easy by the way, giving things a proper consideration not.
That said, I entirely agree with Alan, insofar that I do not believe that a Hollywood-made UFO movie will be any good (or even just true to the original) and that I think (or maybe also hope) that the whole project vanished in development hell for good last year.
Cheers
An
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An apology for the untrue statement and insinuation that something is "dumbed down so that US audiences 'get it'" -- This statement is an appeal to anonymous authority. If you remember the rules of the form they include "Treat the others in the group as you would want them to treat you." I don't appreciate being treated like that, first of all because it is untrue and secondly it comes across as an attack on a groups intelligence.
Americans are individuals from all over the world, we do not all walk in lock step to a central controller. There have been fine movies written, made and directed in this country and poor movies made in other countries.
Would it be ok to claim that all Irishmen are drunks, Englishmen are poor lovers ...
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Hi,
an apology? What for? One doesn't apologise for saying the truth.
It is commonly known and visible for anyone who cares to have a look-see that this "dumbing down" is being done whenever a European source is adapted to the US film market. I'd suggest you watch in direct comparison
La Femme Nikita (1990, French original) vs. Point of No Return (1993, US remake)
Nattevagten (1994, Danish original) vs. Nightwatch (1997, US remake)
Trois Hommes et un couffin (1985, French original) vs. Three Men and a Baby (1987, US remake)
The Avengers (1960s, British original) vs. The Avengers (1998, US remake)
These four ought to suffice to clarify what he is talking about, should you indeed have missed that trend. In all these cases the US version is dumbed down, simplified, adjusted to what is considered politically correct and acceptable in the USA, which happens to be a lot, lot less than what routinely works for European audiences.
UFO indeed is a whole lot grittier than any US series of the time. Some of it I still doubt would or could be translated into a US version and it was geared towards a completely different audience in Europe than that which is movie-going in the USA.
So, please, why should he apologise? For stating the truth? He wasn't discussing the background of such differences, nor suggesting that you personally are in any way unintelligent, he just stated the blatantly obvious facts--regardless of why the US producers do it that way *shrug*.
Cheers and back to lurk-mode
An
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Please stop with the whole "dumbed down so that US audiences 'get it'" - Its insulting and inaccurate. I for one an not stupid because I am an American and I believe an apology is in order.
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