Posted by Alan Lewis on
URL: https://www.shado-forum.com/what-about-ufo-tp3939792p3941557.html

Are you an American? Have I called *all* Americans ‘dumb’? No. I simply referenced how the American entertainment industry is perceived by the rest of the world, and how *it* perceives its’ own audience.

 

I am tempted to say though – look at some of the responses to my post; at what point did I even infer that Americans “walk in lock step...”? I’m wasn’t referencing fine movies  - To Kill A Mockingbird, The Green Miles, Shawshank Redemption are imho some of the finest movies ever screen – but the ingrained aversion the ‘Hollywood’ has to anything that requires though on behalf of the audience.

 

Want an example? Battle Los Angeles, where in mid-film they explain why the aliens were invading. Compared to Skyline (and Cloverfield) where there is no explanation.

 

As it happens, I wouldn’t want UFO to be made by a British company... the chances are it would be shot by an art-house, even more PC correct,  be underfunded and thus make do with small-screen actors, and would run out of money thus creating a film that has a ‘rushed’ ending (Xtro, anyone). Although perhaps the team behind ‘Dog Soldiers’ could have a stab at it...

 

 

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Darth Garlic
Sent: 26 April 2012 09:10
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] what about ufo

 

 

An apology for the untrue statement and insinuation that something is "dumbed down so that US audiences 'get it'" -- This statement is an appeal to anonymous authority. If you remember the rules of the form they include "Treat the others in the group as you would want them to treat you." I don't appreciate being treated like that, first of all because it is untrue and secondly it comes across as an attack on a groups intelligence.

Americans are individuals from all over the world, we do not all walk in lock step to a central controller. There have been fine movies written, made and directed in this country and poor movies made in other countries.

Would it be ok to claim that all Irishmen are drunks, Englishmen are poor lovers ...

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Date: Thursday, April 26, 2012, 1:57 AM

 

Hi,

an apology? What for? One doesn't apologise for saying the truth.

It is commonly known and visible for anyone who cares to have a look-see that this "dumbing down" is being done whenever a European source is adapted to the US film market. I'd suggest you watch in direct comparison

La Femme Nikita (1990, French original) vs. Point of No Return (1993, US remake)

Nattevagten (1994, Danish original) vs. Nightwatch (1997, US remake)

Trois Hommes et un couffin (1985, French original) vs. Three Men and a Baby (1987, US remake)

The Avengers (1960s, British original) vs. The Avengers (1998, US remake)

These four ought to suffice to clarify what he is talking about, should you indeed have missed that trend. In all these cases the US version is dumbed down, simplified, adjusted to what is considered politically correct and acceptable in the USA, which happens to be a lot, lot less than what routinely works for European audiences.

UFO indeed is a whole lot grittier than any US series of the time. Some of it I still doubt would or could be translated into a US version and it was geared towards a completely different audience in Europe than that which is movie-going in the USA.

So, please, why should he apologise? For stating the truth? He wasn't discussing the background of such differences, nor suggesting that you personally are in any way unintelligent, he just stated the blatantly obvious facts--regardless of why the US producers do it that way *shrug*.

Cheers and back to lurk-mode

An

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From: Darth Garlic

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:58 PM

To: [hidden email] <mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com>  

Subject: RE: [SHADO] what about ufo

Please stop with the whole "dumbed down so that US audiences 'get it'" - Its insulting and inaccurate. I for one an not stupid because I am an American and I believe an apology is in order.

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