CONFLICT (long as usual :-)

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>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:17:02 -0000
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>Hi All!
>
> (Note: it's possible that I am not able to read the messages in
>the next week, I'm not sure about this. So don't worry if I am not
>replying yet.)
>
> I watched the episode and found some small things.... Well, I fear
>I'll become the Master of the nit-pickers... 8-
>Nevermind! IMO this is a well done episode with a rather weak plot.
>Let's see:
>
>* Teresa gave very good informations about the space wrecks (see
>message # 2887 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SHADO/message/2887 )!
>And yes, why not force the space junks to alter course so that they
>must burn up in Earth atmosphere instead of blowing them into
>dangerous smithereens?
>
>* First we see the alien object when the spaceship is passing the
>Apollo 8 stage. In the next scene (when the title moves in) the
>object is in the same position - but upside down!
>
>* Ed Straker with sunglasses and this dark blue suit - way cool!!
>8-)) I wonder how many times our Bishop gals have kerplopped in this
>case? ;-)
>
>* Small note: in this episode the ep title is shown AFTER the casting
>titles - and not in the usual way, too.
>
>* I always wondered why are there these conflicts between Henderson
>and Straker? In CONFETTI CHECK A-OK Henderson seems to support and
>patronize Straker's career but in the other eps he's very
>harsh to Straker, more like a bulldog. For example: Henderson says in
>CONFLICT: "I am prove to the comission that your Organisation in its
>present form is an expensive and unworkable luxury!" (Maybe Straker
>becomes too demanding over the years?) 8-
>
>* When Straker says to Henderson "I have my report!" I always got the
>impression by the look in Hendersons face that the General wants to
>start singing: "So take this report and shove it..." :-) Instead he
>seems to practice self-control and just says: "Your report..."
>Don't believe it? Just look at his face!
>
>* When Straker is seen on the monitor at Moonbase he looks into the
>center of the monitor, talking to Foster who is sitting in the front
>of it. Then Straker looks to the top left where Freeman is. Sorry,
>but that's nonsense. It's like you are sitting in front of a
>TV set and when a person is shown in the top right on the screen you
>will never move your head to look up in the top right, because you
>wouldn't watch the screen any more, instead you would look to the
>top right of your room. So Straker is not able to watch Freeman by
>looking this way. ("Yeah, but maybe he has a second monitor in his
>office just for this ep?" - "Oh shut up, you know-all..." :-)
>
>* The re-entry angle is 6.58 degrees. So we were told by Maddox. But
>the display he's looking at shows no decimal degrees, the pointer
>stands somewhere between 6 and 7 degrees. So is this 6.58 degrees
>only a guess? (For me it looks more like 6.67 degrees ;-)) Anyway,
>isn't that kind of display too inexact for such an important
>information?
>
>* During the forced re-entry of the Lunar Module in the Earth
>atmosphere one can see the hair of Maddox` co-pilot flattering.
>They shouldn't set the air conditioning too powerful ;-)
>
>* The Lunar Module didn't burn up in Earth` atmosphere, it
>exploded! Is this possible?
>
>* We see Skydiver under water moving from the right to the left. Two
>questions to this scene: what are these black things which are rising
>in front of the U-boat? And where do the airbubbles on the left come
>from? Hey, is Skydiver diving in an aquarium? :-))
>
>* Colonel Foster knows the meaning of "Washington Square"; Colonel
>Freeman not. No wonder. Foster is new to SHADO and therefore has
>learned all codes recently. Freeman learnt it ten years ago :-)
>
>* In the Module you can see a huge display wall in front of the
>pilots an no windows at all; but outside you can see cockpit windows
>on the ship. What are they for? (That's what I call nit-picking,
>guys! }:-)
>
>* Three Interceptors for four space wrecks. Hm, one of the
>Interceptor missiles has to hit two space wrecks at the same time...
>
>* The UFO is far away in space and SHADO is able to know the target
>area at this point. They must have hired a clairvoyant :-)
>
>* BTW I'm missing SID in this ep. Is he on a vacation? :-))
>
>* I never understood the plot at this point: the complete shutdown of
>SHADO HQ; Miss Ealand looking out for Sky 1; the satellite which is a
>decoy to draw the Interceptors from Moonbase... (Hey, alien folks:
>how about an attack with six or more UFOs? After all Moonbase only
>owns just three Interceptors, carrying one missile each ;-) How said
>Henderson: "I don't buy it, Straker!" I don't, too.
>
>* Some remarks to the german episode titles: they are not so subtle
>as the english ones. CONFLICT reads in Germany FALLE IM WELTRAUM
>(that means "Trap in Space"), IDENTIFIED is DER ERSTE ALARM (= "The
>first alert"), EXPOSED is TESTPILOT PAUL FOSTER and THE COMPUTER
>AFFAIR is COMPUTER LUEGEN NICHT (= "Computers don't lie"). They
>always treated us like children.... :-(
>
>Have fun and take care!!!
>CU Christian
>
>
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> You're the 2nd person to mention being confused by the ending of this
> episode. This leaves me to wonder -- is your copy of CONFLICT uncut?
> The shutdown of SHADO HQ is explained by Straker in the episode --
> he assumes that the Aliens are using SHADO's radio frequencies to get
> a precise estimate of where the underground base is. Since SHADO HQ
> is now unable to know what's going on with the UFO and Sky One,
> Miss Ealand looks out of the window until Sky One flies directly
> overhead. At this point, it's now safe to turn everything back on,
> because they have Sky One for defense.
>
> Is this how other people interpret the ending?
>

> You're the 2nd person to mention being confused by the ending of
> this episode. This leaves me to wonder -- is your copy of CONFLICT
> uncut?
> The shutdown of SHADO HQ is explained by Straker in the episode --
> he assumes that the Aliens are using SHADO's radio frequencies to
> get a precise estimate of where the underground base is. Since
> SHADO HQ is now unable to know what's going on with the UFO and Sky
> One, Miss Ealand looks out of the window until Sky One flies
> directly overhead. At this point, it's now safe to turn everything
> back on, because they have Sky One for defense.

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>Subject: [SHADO] trading children ;-)
>Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:55:22 -0000
>
>--- "simon houstoun" wrote:
> > Can I have your children.... I'll even buy them from you..
> > Simon
>
> Buy my children? 8-
>But I don't have any...
><ponder ponder>
>Oh! Do you mean these "episodes" children? :-)
>
> > >* Some remarks to the german episode titles: they are not so subtle
> > >as the english ones. CONFLICT reads in Germany FALLE IM WELTRAUM
> > >(that means "Trap in Space"), IDENTIFIED is DER ERSTE ALARM (= "The
> > >first alert"), EXPOSED is TESTPILOT PAUL FOSTER and THE COMPUTER
> > >AFFAIR is COMPUTER LUEGEN NICHT (= "Computers don't lie"). They
> > >always treated us like children.... :-(
>
> Maybe you should tell me privately, Simon...
>
>Best wishes
>Christian
>
>Christian