"Complete Book of UFO" now shipping!

Hi all,

I just got a notice that Amazon.uk shipped my "Complete
Book of UFO" revised edition!

Marc

Marc;
Please let us know what's different.
Steve Christensen



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Marc, in the new FAB and either on the Fanderson list or the Fanderson
website the original book is going for 400 uk pounds? That's around
$800? Has anyone seen an auction for the first edition going for that
much? For $800 I'd sell mine! : - )


--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
> I just got a notice that Amazon.uk shipped my "Complete
> Book of UFO" revised edition!
> Marc

Well, you can find Paperback edition of the book on amazon.co.uk for £8.57
at
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/190311165X/qid=1145394654/sr=2-3/ref=sr_2_3_3/026-1398889-4225227

all the best,
Branko


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Branko Vekic wrote:

Me, too! Having said that, £400 does sound a bit OTT. It would be nice to sell the original book for something approaching that and use some of the profits to invest in the updated version. Still, it'd be interesting to compare the two versions.

Phil <[hidden email]> wrote: Marc, in the new FAB and either on the Fanderson list or the Fanderson
website the original book is going for 400 uk pounds? That's around
$800? Has anyone seen an auction for the first edition going for that
much? For $800 I'd sell mine! : - )
               
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In this book, or anywhere else for that matter, is it mentionned what
and who they had in mind for the casting of the aborted UFO 1999 that
would later become SPACE 1999.

Just that I've often wondered... if the second season was going to be
set 19 years after the first one, then no more Straker and Foster, or
were theyjust going to try and make them look 19 ears older ?  

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> Me, too! Having said that, £400 does sound a bit OTT. It would be
nice to sell the original book for something approaching that and use
some of the profits to invest in the updated version. Still, it'd be
interesting to compare the two versions.
>
> Phil <captphil@...> wrote: Marc, in the new FAB and either on the
Fanderson list or the Fanderson
> website the original book is going for 400 uk pounds? That's around
> $800? Has anyone seen an auction for the first edition going for that
> much? For $800 I'd sell mine! : - )
>
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"Pat" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> In this book, or anywhere else for that matter, is it mentioned what
> and who they had in mind for the casting of the aborted UFO 1999 that
> would later become SPACE 1999.
>
> Just that I've often wondered... if the second season was going to be
> set 19 years after the first one, then no more Straker and Foster, or
> were theyjust going to try and make them look 19 ears older ?
>

As far as I'm aware the idea that it was going to be set in 1999 was
only introduced after the decision to make it a totally new series -
if it had indeed been a second UFO series I expect it would have been
set in the 1980s.

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> As far as I'm aware the idea that it was going to be set in 1999 was
> only introduced after the decision to make it a totally new series -
> if it had indeed been a second UFO series I expect it would have been
> set in the 1980s.

It's difficult to get a clear idea of what the plan was. There doesn't
appear to be any surviving written information about the cancelled
2nd season of UFO, and it seems that everyone who was involved with
it no longer remembers.

Marc

Thanks to you guys and posting the amazon.uk link I was able to order my
copy! Whee! Am really looking forward to getting it!

Pam the Canuck

It would appear that SHADO have covered their tracks extremely well with very generous doses of the Amnesia drug, methinks!

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: There doesn't appear to be any surviving written information about the cancelled 2nd season of UFO, and it seems that everyone who was involved with it no longer remembers.

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Hi All,

I have just received the hardback version of: "Complete Book of UFO", and Ihave
to say it's superb; a fantastic piece of research, well structured, and layout
by Chris Bentley.

I also have the paperback version, and it's well worth getting the hardbackif
you can as there's so much more new information.

Best to all,

Griff

--- In [hidden email], "Griff" <glwason@...> wrote:
 
> I have just received the hardback version of: "Complete Book of
>UFO", and I have to say it's superb; a fantastic piece of research,
>well structured, and layout by Chris Bentley.
 
> I also have the paperback version, and it's well worth getting the
>hardback if you can as there's so much more new information.


Griff, could you indicate what kind of new information the new book
has? Does any of it relate to 'behind-the-scenes' production, the
cast, characters etc. or is it mostly about the models/ SFX?

Thanks :-)


Sarah

Hi everyone,

Just received my copy of the new revised hardback edition of "The
Complete Book of UFO".

On a very quick flick through and page for page comparison, here are
the main changes that I have found:

Apart from several picture swaps and minor updates to the text there
are very few changes to the main content of the book.
A new Foreword has been written by Donald James, though thankfully,
the Ed Bishop original has also been retained.
There is a new colour photo section in the middle of the book with 14
high quality photos of various sizes. Many of these are already in
the SHADO group Photos section.
The one really significant addition to the book is the chapter
devoted to an un-filmed script "The Patriot". I have yet to read this
properly but for me this justifies the purchase of the new edition.
It is not the whole script but a synopsis, together with the script
for a couple of scenes.

At the price of £13.19 from Amazon this is good value for money in my
view :-D

Cheers,

Kevin


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> --- In [hidden email], "Griff" <glwason@> wrote:
>  
> > I have just received the hardback version of: "Complete Book of
> >UFO", and I have to say it's superb; a fantastic piece of
research,
> >well structured, and layout by Chris Bentley.
>  
> > I also have the paperback version, and it's well worth getting
the

> The one really significant addition to the book is the chapter
> devoted to an un-filmed script "The Patriot". I have yet to read this
> properly but for me this justifies the purchase of the new edition.
> It is not the whole script but a synopsis, together with the script
> for a couple of scenes.

Kevin, you can read the entire script here:

http://ufoseries.com/scripts/patriot.html

Given that, is the book purchase still justified? :-)

Marc

To be honest, it is completely clear why did "Patriot" was never filmed. For
me, it would be the worst episode of UFO ever! (Not counting enormous costs
of filming in Africa or somewhere that looks like it)
All the best,
Branko


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Branko wrote:

"To be honest, it is completely clear why did "Patriot" was never filmed.
For
me, it would be the worst episode of UFO ever! (Not counting enormous costs
of filming in Africa or somewhere that looks like it)"



I don't think that's at all fair. The situation is interestingly different
for a UFO episode. There is conflict with the locals in an area where a UFO
has landed, which doesn't usually happen. It is much grittier than most UFO
episodes. The tone reminds me more of Man in a Suitcase which sometimes had
its hero facing dreadful moral dilemmas in the nastier international
political hotspots.
It suffers from the UFO curse of rather indigestible (and repetitious)
dialogue but this is presumably a first draft and much of this could have
been ironed out. Freeman and Straker are also less involved in the action
than they might be.

Wider shots of the devastation could have been model shots, closer shots
distressed sets from other productions on the backlot. (It was part of the
studio deal in those days that sets left over from previous productions
could be used at no cost)
I am sure that the treatment would not have been approved for writing up
into a complete script (at some cost) if it was felt that the episode would
have been too expensive to shoot.

I suspect that ultimately the subject was considered too dark, politically
contentious and a bit out of keeping with the rest of the series. Straker is
often called on to make some extremely difficult decisions but not usually
with as much loss of life as in this script and it might have been thought
to be beyond the pale for the "hero" of a series which must have already
looked like a difficult sell.
I would also suspect that the decision to drop a written episode entirely,
after some expenditure, would probably been taken by someone higher than the
script editor. If it was Tony Barwick's idea to drop the episode I doubt
that he would have the final say and he would have had to, at the very
least, convince the producer.

Regards
John



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To be honest, it is completely clear why did "Patriot" was never filmed. For
me, it would be the worst episode of UFO ever! (Not counting enormous costs
of filming in Africa or somewhere that looks like it)
All the best,
Branko


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> I would also suspect that the decision to drop a written episode entirely,
> after some expenditure, would probably been taken by someone higher than the
> script editor.

One of the possible reasons that Leo Eaton thought that this script was
not filmed was that he was fired from UFO during the production.
This is mentioned in the new version of THE COMPLETE BOOK OF UFO (yes,
I got my copy today), and was also mentioned to me in an email I got
from Leo prior to my publishing this script on the web. The reason for
him being fired? He says that he was paying too much attention to
a "certain guest star" and not enough attention to his job
as first assistant director!

I suppose if we look at the production order we could take a guess at
who this guest star was. Leo was first assistant director on
every other episode until Close Up (Identified, Flight Path,
Exposed, The Dalotek Affair, Ordeal, The Square Triangle,
Close Up). So I guess that would narrow it down to
the episodes Close Up, Confetti Check A-OK, and ESP. My
guess is Suzanne Neve, but that's just a guess on my part...

Marc

Suzanne Neve sound about right. You can eliminate Close Up as no female
guest stars in that one. ESP has none other than Croxleys wife who was played by
Deborah Stanford. However if he got fired at ESP would seem to be the one.
What would have been the next episode if he was working on every other one?
This might be the one and they changed to a new assistant director because of
the attention he was paying to the guest star in that one. Just a idea anyway.

James K.


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> Suzanne Neve sound about right. You can eliminate Close Up as no female
> guest stars in that one. ESP has none other than Croxleys wife who was played by
> Deborah Stanford. However if he got fired at ESP would seem to be the one.
> What would have been the next episode if he was working on every other one?

The episode after ESP was KILL STRAKER, then SUB-SMASH. But he would have
had to have been fired during or before ESP, as that would have been his
next episode, and he wasn't credited for ESP.

Marc