DOES STRAKER HAVE TO BE AMERICAN ACTOR?

Does Straker have to be played by an American actor? Why not a British actor putting on an American (Bostonian)accent? After all, if Hugh Laurie can get away with it...

I remember Straker saying he was from Boston in "The Psychobombs."

All The Best,

BRIAN




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Brings to mind the awful scene where they need to repair SID, and launching from NASA, and some guy with the worst accent ever talks pretending he is from the US, Texas??

Bruce
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Does Straker have to be played by an American actor? Why not a British actor putting on an American (Bostonian)accent? After all, if Hugh Laurie can get away with it...

I remember Straker saying he was from Boston in "The Psychobombs."

All The Best,

BRIAN

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Is that the scene where the guy pronounces "telemetry"  incorrectly?

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Brings to mind the awful scene where they need to repair SID, and launchingfrom NASA, and some guy with the worst accent ever talks pretending he is from the US, Texas??

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Serridge
To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 8:30 AM
Subject: [SHADO] DOES STRAKER HAVE TO BE AMERICAN ACTOR?

Does Straker have to be played by an American actor? Why not a British actor putting on an American (Bostonian)accent? After all, if Hugh Laurie can get away with it...

I remember Straker saying he was from Boston in "The Psychobombs. "

All The Best,

BRIAN

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> Is that the scene where the guy pronounces "telemetry"  incorrectly?

What about "mach"... I think in DESTRUCTION, they consistently
mispronounce that, when referring to the speed of the UFO.
Unless the British have their own unique pronunciation that
I'm unaware of... (in the US, it's pronounced "Mawk" -- in
UFO, they pronounce it "Mack")

Marc

not sure, but your probably right. It was just comical that whole scene.

Bruce
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Is that the scene where the guy pronounces "telemetry"Â incorrectly?

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From: Bruce Sherman <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] DOES STRAKER HAVE TO BE AMERICAN ACTOR?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 6:49 PM

  

Brings to mind the awful scene where they need to repair SID, and launching from NASA, and some guy with the worst accent ever talks pretending he is from the US, Texas??

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Serridge
To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 8:30 AM
Subject: [SHADO] DOES STRAKER HAVE TO BE AMERICAN ACTOR?

Does Straker have to be played by an American actor? Why not a British actor putting on an American (Bostonian)accent? After all, if Hugh Laurie canget away with it...

I remember Straker saying he was from Boston in "The Psychobombs. "

All The Best,

BRIAN

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Hi,

Yes, in the UK, Mach (as in Mach 3) can be pronounced "Mack" or "Mark", I have heard both regularly. Also, I have done quite a lot of work with Pratt and Whitney lately, and I have heard both there as well... there's a load of Brits working there, but I have heard some Americans' call it "Mach" as well as "Mark"... with some Europeans, I have even heard it pronounced "Maarch"

Hope this helps,

Griff

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Hi,

Yes, hearing "telemeetree" always makes me giggle...

G

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I had forgotten about that one!  But I beg to differ.  Are you are saying "Mach" is pronounced "mawk", the same as "gawk"? The only place in the states it might be said that way might be in Massachusetts.  Mach is actually pronounced the same as words like "lock" and"block".  : )
 
Jeff

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Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 9:48 PM


 



> Is that the scene where the guy pronounces "telemetry"  incorrectly?

What about "mach"... I think in DESTRUCTION, they consistently
mispronounce that, when referring to the speed of the UFO.
Unless the British have their own unique pronunciation that
I'm unaware of... (in the US, it's pronounced "Mawk" -- in
UFO, they pronounce it "Mack")

Marc







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Hi,

Given that measurement MACH is named after the Czech/Austrian physicist andphilosopher Ernst Mach, I suppose if one is being really picky it should be pronounced in the same way one would pronounce the German composer Bach (i.e. similar to Bark, although with a more guttural "CH").

My father was German and he would NEVER have pronounced "Bach" as Back, or "Mach" as Mack...

I think "as usual" I am taking this to too many decimal places, but just about everyone I know (including most of the guys at Pratt and Whitney) say, "Mach 3" = "Mark 3"

Regards, Griff

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As "Mach" number is named after an actual person, I don't understand how their can be more than one correct pronunciation.  Which makes both "Mack" and "Mark" wrong, doesn't it?
 
Jeff

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Hi,

Yes, in the UK, Mach (as in Mach 3) can be pronounced "Mack" or "Mark", I have heard both regularly. Also, I have done quite a lot of work with Pratt and Whitney lately, and I have heard both there as well... there's a load of Brits working there, but I have heard some Americans' call it "Mach" as well as "Mark"... with some Europeans, I have even heard it pronounced "Maarch"

Hope this helps,

Griff

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Today's philosophical question: If the list-owner starts an off-topic
thread, is it off-topic?

- JasonH. ;^)




On 20 April 2010 22:34, Jeffrey Nelson <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> As "Mach" number is named after an actual person, I don't understand how
> their can be more than one correct pronunciation. Which makes both "Mack"
> and "Mark" wrong, doesn't it?
>
> Jeff
>

..and so on, back to Marc's original question:

>> Is that the scene where the guy pronounces "telemetry" incorrectly?

>What about "mach"... I think in DESTRUCTION, they consistently
>mispronounce that, when referring to the speed of the UFO.
>Unless the British have their own unique pronunciation that
>I'm unaware of... (in the US, it's pronounced "Mawk" -- in
>UFO, they pronounce it "Mack")
>
>Marc
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He he! Maybe Marc already has?

But, as the word "Mach" IS mentioned, quoted many times in UFO, I "challenge you" that it is NOT off topic :)

Regards, Griff

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> Today's philosophical question: If the list-owner starts an off-topic
> thread, is it off-topic?
>
> - JasonH. ;^)

> But, as the word "Mach" IS mentioned, quoted many times in UFO, I
> "challenge you" that it is NOT off topic :)

Yes, "Mach" is mentioned several times in UFO, although primarily
I was thinking of the episode DESTRUCTION ("speed - mach 5 - reducing").

I think some people think that any topic they are not personally
interested in is "off-topic". :-)

And to be truly off-topic, where I work at Boeing, the Aerodynamicists
argue about whether mach should be capitalized or not... :-)

Marc

<<And to be truly off-topic, where I work at Boeing, the Aerodynamicists
argue about whether mach should be capitalized or not... :-)

Marc>>



Well, according to the AP style book, the NYT style book AND the Daily
Planet - it's capitalized.



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As it is named after a person, it only makes sense that it should be capitalized (unlike "aerodynamicist").  : )
 
Jeff

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<<And to be truly off-topic, where I work at Boeing, the Aerodynamicists
argue about whether mach should be capitalized or not... :-)

Marc>>

Well, according to the AP style book, the NYT style book AND the Daily
Planet - it's capitalized.

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> Yes. What hasn't been mentioned is that about half of the UK
> would pronounce it 'mark' and the other half 'mack', for the
> same reasons as the first group would also pronounce 'pass' as
> 'parse'.

My original concern (which WAS on-topic) was that the scriptwriter
put the word "Mach" in the script, but the actors / director / crew
had no idea how it was supposed to be pronounced, so it ended up
being pronounced wrong (same thing with "telemetry").

However, if people in UK actually do pronounce it "Mack", then
I can't blame the UFO production crew... :-)

Marc