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Mark Davies-3
Dave stated:

>I had a lot of the same dissappointments as you when I >finally got to watch the episodes again as an adult. I >found the writing piss poor, some of the plots thin and >flimsy, and the acting quite bad in many places.

>But to me, the whole UFO concept was inescapably >appealing to me, and the special effects still look >impressive even by todays standards....And at least >some of the eps are just genuinely good.

>Before I saw the show UFO, I was a very young kid >with essentially no identity yet. Seeing the show UFO as >a 6 year old caused me to discover space, become >interested in science, and set me on the path that I have >followed in life.

>Dispite all this rather harsh critisism, I can still watch the >show, mentally correct all the flaws I see in it as I watch >it, and thoroughly enjoy it for the imaginary world it can >place me in. For me, the UFO universe is a cool >universe, and this rather flawed show is the entrance >gateway to it.

>Dave H.

I agree with those comments Dave,except that I don't think the writing was that poor.I think it was pretty much par for the course.
Although you are right about UFO succeeding in spite of some of its obvious faults.

Mark UK




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Re: Disappointed

brandykitt
A lot of SG-1 fans have trouble with what the people in charge
did to Sam Carter: turn her from the smart scientist/soldier/
woman from the first three seasons into a combination of
Super!Sam (who was the National Treasure and could do no
wrong, no matter what field it was) and Spammi (who was a
teen-aged soap queen who had eyes only for Sir (Jack) and
would ignore friends, family, and regulations as long as she
got her man). Meanwhile, the show's most interesting
character, Daniel Jackson, was being shown the door, and
his friendship with Jack (which had existed from the movie)
was disintegrated.

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In a message dated 6/18/2009 3:09:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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>Ah well, there's always Stargate

Yeah? A show where the female Major claims to be an engineer, and states in
one episode that she can increase an engine's efficiency TO 130%!!!!!!!


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Re: Disappointed

scottboydo
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> >Dispite all this rather harsh critisism, I can still watch the >show, mentally correct all the flaws I see in it as I watch >it, and thoroughly enjoy it for the imaginary world it can >place me in. For me, the UFO universeis a cool >universe, and this rather flawed show is the entrance >gateway to it.

   

>>>> Hello folks!

i love the debate over the show, and have to agree with many parts of it.but consider this, at least your favorite show did'nt have a talking carrot in it, like mine does. [Lost In Space] i'm refering to the ['great vegtable rebellion'] episode.>>>>

scott...........
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Re: Disappointed

jks
Regarding the self-contained episode nature of UFO, this was the common format for such series in the USA, where Lew Grade was selling his series.

Most such series had, at most, an introductory episode but from then on theidea was that the episodes could be shown in pretty much any order and a viewer wouldn't stop watching if they missed an episode or two in pre-VCR days.
The Saint, Thunderbirds and Danger Man worked perfectly well in this formatas the basic situation of the protagonists didn't change much.

Some of the other series had slight problems - in Randall and Hopkirk and The Champions, even after the introductory episodes, you would expect that Hopkirk and The Champions would discover new aspects to their powers.
But the big problems come with UFO and The Prisoner where the actions and knowledge of the characters should, logically, radically change as they understand more about their predicaments and there are plenty of episodes whichimply that they should come before or after others.
These series fall halfway between a serial, with an overarching plot, and aseries - which mainly doesn't.

The problems with their falling between two stools is accentuated by the way the scripts were commissioned.
With a serial or soap opera, a central group of writers plan the overall story and the writer of the individual episode is handed a detailed synopsis.This has the benefit of consistency but at the expense of individual inspiration and variety.
With a series like Man in a Suitcase or Department S, the creators of the show would write a "Bible" which gave an idea of the tone and format of the show and it's characters. They would then ask writers to pitch ideas. If the ideas were liked then the script would be commissioned. While writing onescript the writer may well be introducing details which conflicted with details in another script being written by an equally oblivious writer working on another episode. True there were script editors but, apart from missing small inconsistencies in the rush, it might be impossible to reconcile conflicts without ruining an episode.
In the days before home recording and before anyone expected a viewer to see an episode more than twice a couple of years apart, then episodes contradicting each other in a minor way probably wasn't considered important.

For these reasons I also tend to think that detailed fretting over the order of episodes in UFO, while it might be fun, isn't likely to come to any definitive answer - as none was intended in the first place.

Regards
John
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Re: Disappointed

Paul Bowers
john_nhojuk wrote:

> Regarding the self-contained episode nature of UFO, this was the common format for such series in the USA, where Lew Grade was selling his series.
>
> Most such series had, at most, an introductory episode but from then on the idea was that the episodes could be shown in pretty much any order and a viewer wouldn't stop watching if they missed an episode or two in pre-VCR days.
> The Saint, Thunderbirds and Danger Man worked perfectly well in this format as the basic situation of the protagonists didn't change much.
>
> Some of the other series had slight problems - in Randall and Hopkirk and The Champions, even after the introductory episodes, you would expect that Hopkirk and The Champions would discover new aspects to their powers.
> But the big problems come with UFO and The Prisoner where the actions and knowledge of the characters should, logically, radically change as they understand more about their predicaments and there are plenty of episodes which imply that they should come before or after others.
> These series fall halfway between a serial, with an overarching plot, and a series - which mainly doesn't.
>
> The problems with their falling between two stools is accentuated by the way the scripts were commissioned.
> With a serial or soap opera, a central group of writers plan the overall story and the writer of the individual episode is handed a detailed synopsis. This has the benefit of consistency but at the expense of individual inspiration and variety.
> With a series like Man in a Suitcase or Department S, the creators of the show would write a "Bible" which gave an idea of the tone and format of the show and it's characters. They would then ask writers to pitch ideas. If the ideas were liked then the script would be commissioned. While writing one script the writer may well be introducing details which conflicted with details in another script being written by an equally oblivious writer working on another episode. True there were script editors but, apart from missing small inconsistencies in the rush, it might be impossible to reconcile conflicts without ruining an episode.
> In the days before home recording and before anyone expected a viewer to see an episode more than twice a couple of years apart, then episodes contradicting each other in a minor way probably wasn't considered important.
>
> For these reasons I also tend to think that detailed fretting over the order of episodes in UFO, while it might be fun, isn't likely to come to any definitive answer - as none was intended in the first place.
>
> Regards
> John


Excellent! Thanks, John.

Paul
Calgary