In the book PSYCHOTRONIC ENCYCLOPEDIA OF FILM (by Michael Weldon),
the entry for Journey to the Far Side of the Sun states that "twenty minutes were cut for the American release." Has anyone every heard of this before? I have the US DVD and it runs 101 minutes. Is there really ever a longer or shorter version? -Mark |
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In American releases the scene between Roy Thinnes and Lynn Loring where he confronts her concerning the birth control pills was removed. I never saw that scene until I first bought the videotape release a few years back. Michael >From: "mark_nems" <[hidden email]> >Reply-To: [hidden email] >To: [hidden email] >Subject: [SHADO] Doppleganger running time? >Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 03:33:12 -0000 > >In the book PSYCHOTRONIC ENCYCLOPEDIA OF FILM (by Michael Weldon), >the entry for Journey to the Far Side of the Sun states that "twenty >minutes were cut for the American release." Has anyone every heard of >this before? I have the US DVD and it runs 101 minutes. Is there >really ever a longer or shorter version? > >-Mark > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com |
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Mark,
It isn't unusual for there to be several different running times for film. Usually a different running time of a film will have a change of title. In The UK it was called Doppleganger and this will be the one having the longest running time as that is the original title of the film. In the States it was called Journey to the Far Side of the Sun. I guess this was done for the same reason that the title of Au Pair Girls was changed to The Young Playmates for U.S. release, they didn't think we were smart enough to know what a Doppleganger or a Au Pair Girl was<g> and the might have be right. Anyway according to my reference books here are the running times for Doppleganger. The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction Movies list the running time as 101 minutes. The Science Fictionary by Ed Nada lists the running time for Journey To the Far Side of the Sun as 94 minutes but he lists the running time of Doppleganger as 104 minutes. Okay Leonard Maltin's Movie Video Guide lists Journey To The Far Side of The Sun(I'm calling it JTTFSOTS after this) as running 99 minutes. So the biggest time difference I can find is 10 minutes. James K. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hmmm, I've only ever seen that film on American TV, but I seem to
remember that scene <ponder> Ah, Roy "He-with-the-most-kissable-lips" Thinnes ... <siiiiiiiigh> ;-) -- Y Michael Wolff wrote: > > Mark: > > In American releases the scene between Roy Thinnes and Lynn Loring where he > confronts her concerning the birth control pills was removed. I never saw > that scene until I first bought the videotape release a few years back. > > Michael -- [hidden email] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tarrant: "Did you say something?" Avon: "I said shut up; I apologize for not realizing you are deaf." |
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There's a scene where Thinnes and Loring argue, and she accuses him of
having become impotent after a space mission, but it wasn't until I saw the video release that the birth control pills came into it. Frankly, I think Thinnes has a case against whoever edited the film for defamation of character. I'll have to go re-watch the film (always a good excuse) but I think there were also a few scenes showing Lynn Loring running off on dates with the EUROSEC press agent she was catting around with (I think "catting around" is still the acceptable polite term). Michel >From: Yuchtar <[hidden email]> >Reply-To: [hidden email] >To: [hidden email] >Subject: Re: [SHADO] Doppleganger running time? >Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 01:56:03 -0500 > >Hmmm, I've only ever seen that film on American TV, but I seem to >remember that scene <ponder> > >Ah, Roy "He-with-the-most-kissable-lips" Thinnes ... <siiiiiiiigh> > >;-) > >-- Y > > >Michael Wolff wrote: > > > > Mark: > > > > In American releases the scene between Roy Thinnes and Lynn Loring where >he > > confronts her concerning the birth control pills was removed. I never >saw > > that scene until I first bought the videotape release a few years back. > > > > Michael > > >-- >[hidden email] >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >Tarrant: "Did you say something?" >Avon: "I said shut up; I apologize > for not realizing you are deaf." > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx |
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>From: "Michael Wolff" <[hidden email]>
>Reply-To: [hidden email] >To: [hidden email] >Subject: Re: [SHADO] Doppleganger running time? >Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 11:39:28 -0400 > >There's a scene where Thinnes and Loring argue, and she accuses him of >having become impotent after a space mission, but it wasn't until I saw the >video release that the birth control pills came into it. Frankly, I think >Thinnes has a case against whoever edited the film for defamation of >character. > >I'll have to go re-watch the film (always a good excuse) but I think there >were also a few scenes showing Lynn Loring running off on dates with the >EUROSEC press agent she was catting around with (I think "catting around" >is >still the acceptable polite term). > >Michel I thought I had read somewhere that there was a subplot involving her affair with that Eurosec press guy which got axed. Brian > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx |
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> Mark, > It isn't unusual for there to be several different running times > for film. > > Usually a different running time of a film will have a change of > title. In The UK it was called Doppleganger and this will be the > one having the longest running time as that is the original title > of the film. In the States it was called Journey to the Far Side > of the Sun of the film. title of the film. Did you get this the wrong way round? :) I've often seen it referred to as Doppelganger here, but have only ever seen it presented on UK TV as 'Journey to the ..' Slim Jim |
I've only ever seen it titled (in the US) as Journey to the Far Side of the
Sun. Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Gibbon" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [SHADO] Doppleganger running time? > [hidden email] wrote: > > Mark, > > It isn't unusual for there to be several different running times > > for film. > > > > Usually a different running time of a film will have a change of > > title. In The UK it was called Doppleganger and this will be the > > one having the longest running time as that is the original title > > of the film. In the States it was called Journey to the Far Side > > of the Sun of the film. title of the film. > > Did you get this the wrong way round? :) I've often seen it > referred to as Doppelganger here, but have only ever seen it > presented on UK TV as 'Journey to the ..' > > Slim Jim |
For it's original theatrical release [here] in the UK it was called
Doppelganger. However, as far as I'm aware it has only been shown on UK TV in it's US guise of Journey....... [certainly I've never seen it shown as Doppelganger] Marty.......... --- In SHADO@y..., "Anthony D" <atd1999@n...> wrote: > I've only ever seen it titled (in the US) as Journey to the Far Side of the > Sun. > > Anthony > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Gibbon" <james.gibbon@v...> > To: <SHADO@y...> > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 3:11 PM > Subject: Re: [SHADO] Doppleganger running time? > > > > SumitonJD@a... wrote: > > > Mark, > > > It isn't unusual for there to be several different running times > > > for film. > > > > > > Usually a different running time of a film will have a change of > > > title. In The UK it was called Doppleganger and this will be > > > one having the longest running time as that is the original title > > > of the film. In the States it was called Journey to the Far Side > > > of the Sun of the film. title of the film. > > > > Did you get this the wrong way round? :) I've often seen it > > referred to as Doppelganger here, but have only ever seen it > > presented on UK TV as 'Journey to the ..' > > > > Slim Jim |
It just occured to me another scene that was cut from the [original]
US theatrical version, that was left in the British version, was the more graphic element of Herbet Lom getting shot. I know this only amounts to a few seconds but it all adds up. Dopelganger was a 'A' certifacte when original released Just as an aside, I was friends with the son of the local cinema owner, where I grew up, and after Dopelganger had finished it's run, I asked and got the two of the posters, the big ones [40" x 30"] "Are You Two People Looking At This?" I have no need for two, and would be willing to trade one of them, they are in good condition and have been stored folded since I aquired them, so if you have anything interesting let me know, as a modeller I'm partial to new models hint, hint. Marty....... --- In SHADO@y..., "hopkirkmarty" <russell_smith@n...> wrote: > For it's original theatrical release [here] in the UK it was called > Doppelganger. However, as far as I'm aware it has only been shown on > UK TV in it's US guise of Journey....... [certainly I've never seen it > shown as Doppelganger] > > Marty.......... > > > > --- In SHADO@y..., "Anthony D" <atd1999@n...> wrote: > > I've only ever seen it titled (in the US) as Journey to the Far Side > of the > > Sun. > > > > Anthony > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "James Gibbon" <james.gibbon@v...> > > To: <SHADO@y...> > > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 3:11 PM > > Subject: Re: [SHADO] Doppleganger running time? > > > > > > > SumitonJD@a... wrote: > > > > Mark, > > > > It isn't unusual for there to be several different running > > > > for film. > > > > > > > > Usually a different running time of a film will have a change of > > > > title. In The UK it was called Doppleganger and this will be > the > > > > one having the longest running time as that is the original > title > > > > of the film. In the States it was called Journey to the Far > Side > > > > of the Sun of the film. title of the film. > > > > > > Did you get this the wrong way round? :) I've often seen it > > > referred to as Doppelganger here, but have only ever seen it > > > presented on UK TV as 'Journey to the ..' > > > > > > Slim Jim |
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No I got it right. It was original made in England as Doppleganger. But I
find checking my Halliwell's Film Guide which is the major film reference book in England that they now when you look at Doppleganger tell you to see Journey To The Far Side of The Sun. So I guess like alot of other things the U.S. versions of films are taking over from the British one even if they were shown in England first under their original title. You will see in anything where Gerry Anderson mentions the film he calls it Doppleganger. James K. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Michael Wolff wrote:
> There's a scene where Thinnes and Loring argue, and she accuses him of > having become impotent after a space mission, but it wasn't until I saw the > video release that the birth control pills came into it. Frankly, I think > Thinnes has a case against whoever edited the film for defamation of > character. LOL! I'll have to try to find the DVD. I first saw that film long before I knew anything about UFO and I recall being really impressed by the whole idea of it and really shaken by the ending ... good film. -- Y -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Yuchtar zantai-Klaan | [hidden email] I am not a number! I am a FREE FAN! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "An apple a day keeps the, uh .... No, never mind." -- Doctor Who =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= http://yuchtar.users4.50megs.com/ http://home.earthlink.net/~nunzie945 |
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Anyone ever had any dealings with a guy named "Massimo" in Milan, Italy?
His ebay name is "Grandenagus". I won a UFO model kit and photograph from him a little over a week ago, never got a total for both items shipped even though I emailed him 4 or 5 times. He sent me 3 payment reminders, all of which I responded to promptly and let him know that if he could total up both items and the shipping costs for them together I would paypal him the money immediately. After the last round I totaled it myself, taking the shipping charge from the heavier item and Paypalled him the money with simple instructions to please ship them both together and let me know if what I sent was not enough so I could send him more. Now I see BOTH items are BACK up for auction! Anyone know this guy and speak italian well enough to give him grief and tell him the kind of nasty feedback he is in for if I don't get my items? He took the money, he needs to ship the goods. This is why I rarely deal with people overseas in non-English speaking countries... I have nothing against them, but it always ends up being a pain in the ass. Thanks for any assistance- AT |
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>Anyone ever had any dealings with a guy named "Massimo" in Milan, Italy?
>His ebay name is "Grandenagus". This is the same guy who was selling "UFO scripts" which were in fact just printouts from my website. Doesn't sound like a reputable seller to me... Marc |
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>Anyone know >this guy and speak italian well enough to give him grief and tell him >the kind of nasty feedback he is in for if I don't get my items? Try http://babel.altavista.com/sites/babelfish/ Then you'll be saying Hey, diami i miei articoli del UFO voi ladro puzzante! with the best of them. Don Michael _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com |
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> Try http://babel.altavista.com/sites/babelfish/ > > Then you'll be saying Hey, diami i miei articoli del UFO voi ladro puzzante! > with the best of them. Um, a dictionary might be better - Babelfish translated that as: "Hey, diami my articles of the smelling UFO you ladro!" <head tilted> Is that what you MEANT to say? -- Y -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Yuchtar zantai-Klaan | [hidden email] I am not a number! I am a FREE FAN! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "An apple a day keeps the, uh .... No, never mind." -- Doctor Who =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= http://yuchtar.users4.50megs.com/ http://home.earthlink.net/~nunzie945 |
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Yeah, and he better diami pretty darn quick if he knows what's good for him.
:-) Actually that was supposed to be "Hey, give me my UFO items you stinking thief". Small wonder Alta Vista's going downhill. Michael >From: Yuchtar <[hidden email]> >Reply-To: [hidden email] >To: [hidden email] >Subject: Re: [SHADO] Italian Dealers? >Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 21:46:32 -0500 > >Michael Wolff wrote: > > > Try http://babel.altavista.com/sites/babelfish/ > > > > Then you'll be saying Hey, diami i miei articoli del UFO voi ladro >puzzante! > > with the best of them. > >Um, a dictionary might be better - Babelfish translated that as: >"Hey, diami my articles of the smelling UFO you ladro!" > ><head tilted> Is that what you MEANT to say? > >-- Y > > >-- >=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= >Yuchtar zantai-Klaan | [hidden email] > I am not a number! I am a FREE FAN! >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > "An apple a day keeps the, uh .... > No, never mind." > -- Doctor Who >=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= >http://yuchtar.users4.50megs.com/ >http://home.earthlink.net/~nunzie945 > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com |
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>Yeah, and he better diami pretty darn quick if he knows what's good for him.
>:-) Actually, I just found out that this Italian dealer is a "she", not a "he". The buyer of the UFO scripts just e-mailed me to tell me that Paolo Malaguti informed him that these scripts were just printouts from my website. Marc |
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Dear "AT",
being italian (half german), your message did not please me - meaning that I was not pleased to hear that, apparently, an italian is "mistreating" you (to use an euphemysm). I've sent him (her?) a message through eBay, politely asking for a clarification. I'll let you know whether I'll get an answer. I'm sorry for what happened to you. Best regards, Stefano Chiti-Batelli |
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