EXPOSED a little late :-(

>From: "davrecon" <[hidden email]>
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>Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:53:51 -0500
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> * The information about the speed
>is a
> little bit strange. SID says "Speed: Zero Sol
> Eight"; the
>screen shows Sol 8 and you can hear
> Harrington who says "Speed: Sol Zero
>Decimale
> [Cut]. 0 Sol 8? Sol 8? Sol 0.8?" ponder
>
>ponder
>
> * SID first dedected the UFOs at 32
>million
> miles. Can anyone tell me how far away from
> Earth (or
>from SID?) this is? I have always
> problems converting miles into meters.
>There
> seems to be different sort of miles too: -/
>
>
>
>
> True, there are many different types of
>miles,
>which is why this system is so confusing.
>They are probably talking about
>"Statute Miles"
>here, which is about 1.6 kilometers, so 32
>million miles
>is about 51 million kilometers.
> To give you an idea
>of the scale of these
>things, the moon is about 240 thousand miles
>away
>from the earth, so that UFO is about 133 times
>farther away than the
>moon is, or about halfway
>the distance to Mars at it's closest
>approach.
>The Earth is about 7927 miles across.
>
>The sun is 93 million miles from the Earth,
>so the UFO is about 1/3 of the
>distance from us
>as the sun is.
> At SOL 8, which I
>assume is 8 X the speed of
>light, a UFO would cover a million miles in
>about
>2/3rd's of a second, so it is less than half a
>minute away.
>
>
>
> There are other types of miles: there is
>the
>"Statute Mile", which is used primarily in land
>navigation, and there
>is the "Nautical Mile ",
>which is used in sea and air navigation.
>The
>Nautical mile as about 1.852 kilometers, or
>6076
>feet.
> The reason nautical miles are so cool,
>is
>because they are derived directly from earth
>geometry and make global
>navigation easier. A
>nautical mile corresponds to the distance one
>travels
>over the surface of the earth when
>traversing one angular minute of arc from
>the
>earth's center, thus by definition, each minute
>of longitude (N-S) on
>a chart is 1 nautical mile.
>The same is true for latitude (E-W), but only
>at
>the equator, since latitude circles shrink as one
>progresses towards
>the poles. In early days, when
>mariners navigated by the stars, this made
>for
>very simplified navigation.
> There is also
>such a thing as a "British
>Nautical Mile" which is about 4 feet longer
>than
>a regular nautical mile. The reason why they have
>these.... I have no
>idea.
>
>
>
> Watch ahead in the episode "Close Up",
>and
>you'll really get misled about distances and
>appearence. Sometimes you
>really have to suspend
>disbelief on this show.
>
>
>
>
>
> * Someone stated that the test
>aircraft
> flies very high above the clouds (seems to be
> in space)
>and Sky 1 must be a very special
> aircraft for it can fly in this height.
>That
> are my thoughts too.
>
>
>
>
> Back in the early sixties, NASA and the
>Air
>Force ran the X-15 program, the highest flying
>aircraft we'll publicly
>admit to. That flew at
>about the same height, about 50 miles. It is a
>real
>stretch to believe that a submersible
>airplane can fly up that high.
>
> Note the flight gear that Paul and his
>co-pilot
>
>have on, which is standard flight gear with enriched
>
>oxygen supply masks. This is inapropriate at this
>
>altitude. Full pressure suits would be needed if they
>
>lost their cabin air.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> One question, slightly off topic, I have
>for
>any computer savvy's out there: when you download
>over the net, how
>much of the incoming data
>stream is the actual file? Is there a lot
>of
>quality control info shipped along with the file?
>When I try to
>download stuff from this site, I
>find I get 1/10th to 1/20th of my rated
>modem
>speed at best. Could it be transmitting full
>speed, but only a small
>fraction of the incoming
>stream is actual file?
>
>If you've got an answer for me, please e-
>mail me separately at;
>
>
>
> [hidden email]
>
>
>
>Thanks!
>Dave H.
>
>
>
>
>
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>Subject: [SHADO] Re: EXPOSED a little late :-(
>Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 03:09:55 -0000
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>--- In SHADO@y..., "simon houstoun" <shoustoun@h...> wrote:
> > If the velocity sol8 is 8 x the speed of light, what medium does sid
> > use to detect it? - anything that exists so far only travels at the
> > speed of light so the ufo would arrive before the return signal! On
> > startrek they overcome this by using the old subspace detector
> > gimmick allowing faster than light detection - is this something
> > i've missed?
>
>They must have something. After all SHADO HQ can talk to Moonbase
>without that annoying 2 second time lag.
>
>Teresa
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> --- In SHADO@y..., "simon houstoun" <shoustoun@h...> wrote:
> > If the velocity sol8 is 8 x the speed of light, what medium does sid
> > use to detect it? - anything that exists so far only travels at the
> > speed of light so the ufo would arrive before the return signal! On
> > startrek they overcome this by using the old subspace detector
> > gimmick allowing faster than light detection - is this something
> > i've missed?
>
> They must have something. After all SHADO HQ can talk to Moonbase
> without that annoying 2 second time lag.

>From: "Hemmings, R.K." <[hidden email]>
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>Subject: RE: [SHADO] EXPOSED a little late :-(
>Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:19:12 -0000
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>Simon wrote:
>
> > If the velocity sol8 is 8 x the speed of light, what medium
> > does sid use to
> > detect it? - anything that exists so far only travels at the
> > speed of light
> > so the ufo would arrive before the return signal! On startrek
> > they overcome
> > this by using the old subspace detector gimmick allowing
> > faster than light
> > detection - is this something i've missed?
>
>Yes, Col. Virginia Lake's Utronic equipment. To quote from
>IDENTIFIED:
>
>FREEMAN: "Yes, for instance - I know that a Utronic beam
> travels instantaneously."
>
>LAKE: "Almost instantaneously."
>
>FREEMAN: "Yes ... well it means we will be able to detect
> U.F.O's even when they are flying many times the
> speed of light in deep space."
>
>HTH
>--
>Rob
>
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>From: James Gibbon <[hidden email]>
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>Subject: Re: [SHADO] EXPOSED a little late :-(
>Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 20:16:17 +0000
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>"simon houstoun" wrote:
> > Remember when Foster was delivering the utronic gear SID was able to
>detect
> > the ufo's attacking the SST anyway - prior to the actual
> > delivery/installation....
>
>I think it was Freeman who was delivering the Utronic equipment,
>with Virginia Lake on board Seagull X-Ray.
>
>James
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