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Lightcudder-2

Ed Straker's Birthdate?

Help! Does anyone have a definite date for Straker's birthday? In The Patriot it is down as Sept 21st, but the Shado Librarian has it as Jan 14th, andI think there is another date given in the Engale magazine ( which I can'tfind at the moment!)
Or does it really matter?
I would like to be accurate if anyone has the information!
Thanks!
Louise

Deborah Rorabaugh-2

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

For myself I put Straker and Henderson as Capricorns - buttoned up and all
business.

Foster is an Aries - has to be leading the charge

Freeman is Taurus - steadfast, loyal, stubborn

Jackson is SO Scorpio.

Check out http://www.shadolibrary.org/charts/index.shtml

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Griff

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

S'truth! What on earth does that make me? I am told I am an archetypal Aquarius... many people have told me this (gulp) I have no knowledge of Astrology.

Regards,

Griff

--- In [hidden email], "D.A. Rorabaugh" <momkat@...> wrote:

>
> For myself I put Straker and Henderson as Capricorns - buttoned up and all
> business.
>
> Foster is an Aries - has to be leading the charge
>
> Freeman is Taurus - steadfast, loyal, stubborn
>
>
>
> Jackson is SO Scorpio.
>
>
>
> Check out http://www.shadolibrary.org/charts/index.shtml
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

TRT

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

In reply to this post by Deborah Rorabaugh-2

Feh.
I reckon Straker's a typical Aquarian appearance. Blue eyes, blonde
hair, an unwordly, elfen appearance. His harsh leadership style is an
overcompensation for his natal tendency to find diplomatic solutions,
but watch as he dreams and imagines alien worlds and picks through the
mystery of their plots. A Capricorn wouldn't be able to think such
ethereal thoughts. Wouldn't be surprised to find his 10th house
emphasised strongly, though. Say a Mars/Sun conjunction in there, but
don't forget he didn't want to be leader. He deferred again and again
to Henderson's rank and primacy in the project. The commission ordered
him to be commander.
Grant.

On 19 Jan 2010, at 13:57, D.A. Rorabaugh wrote:

> For myself I put Straker and Henderson as Capricorns - buttoned up
> and all
> business.
>
> Foster is an Aries - has to be leading the charge
>
> Freeman is Taurus - steadfast, loyal, stubborn
>
> Jackson is SO Scorpio.
>
> Check out http://www.shadolibrary.org/charts/index.shtml
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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Lightcudder-2

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

Opps - sorry I started this now! As a Virgoan, I think Straker could be Sept 21st - organised, efficient, focussed, and bloody minded! (and solitary!)
But there again perhaps I'm biased!

Lightcudder/LEO/Louise

--- On Tue, 1/19/10, Grant Wray <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Grant Wray <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 2:38 PM

Feh.
I reckon Straker's a typical Aquarian appearance. Blue eyes, blonde
hair, an unwordly, elfen appearance. His harsh leadership style is an
overcompensation for his natal tendency to find diplomatic solutions,
but watch as he dreams and imagines alien worlds and picks through the
mystery of their plots. A Capricorn wouldn't be able to think such
ethereal thoughts. Wouldn't be surprised to find his 10th house
emphasised strongly, though. Say a Mars/Sun conjunction in there, but
don't forget he didn't want to be leader. He deferred again and again
to Henderson's rank and primacy in the project. The commission ordered
him to be commander.
Grant.

On 19 Jan 2010, at 13:57, D.A. Rorabaugh wrote:

Deborah Rorabaugh-2

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

In reply to this post by Lightcudder-2

Ah, but there's also Ascendant, Moon and Mercury to consider as well as the
hard aspects.

How I see Straker's deferring to Henderson - they both saw their potential
career paths with SHADO as Henderson taking command, using his contacts to
ease the way, while Straker as XO did the heavy lifting. THEN, Henderson
would retire upstairs while Straker took over. (There's a definite
father/son dynamic there, don't ya think?)

Instead, Straker is given the nod, despite giving all the appropriate
responses. (He was not about to shout to the committee 'Screw Henderson. I
want it!', now would he?)

As for harsh management style - I never saw it as all that harsh.
Single-minded and hard-nosed, maybe, but he never asked anyone to do what he
wouldn't do himself. I've always gotten a kick out of how in UFO Straker is
shown to be a good manager (he's holding down two jobs and one of them is
saving the planet.) and his subordinates complain at how mean he is while on
the other hand in Space 1999 Koenig shows favoritism, yells, is moody and
yet HIS subordinates all exclaim what a great guy he is.

I figure I'd have a better chance of coming back from a mission alive with
Straker as my CO.

And one of these days I have to finish my article on how to cast horoscopes
for interconnected fictional characters. (http://www.metaphysicalzone.com)

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Lightcudder-2

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

A very interesting thought! I particularly like the Henderson/Straker..Father/son idea - that might go some way to explaining the apparent change in attitude by Henderson. - dads don't always get on with their sons!
And yes, I think Straker would be the better CO in any mission!
However, it still doesn't get me any closer to Straker's birthdate! I thinkI may just have to go with the 'canon' in The Patriot (even though itwas never filmed) and stick at Sept 21st.
I need it for a new story!

Thanks Deborah! and I like your Metaphysical =zone site - the advice for me for today was scarily accurate!
Ltcdr/Louise

--- On Wed, 1/20/10, D.A. Rorabaugh <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: D.A. Rorabaugh <[hidden email]>
Subject: [SHADO] Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 4:48 PM

Ah, but there's also Ascendant, Moon and Mercury to consider as well as the
hard aspects.

How I see Straker's deferring to Henderson - they both saw their potential
career paths with SHADO as Henderson taking command, using his contacts to
ease the way, while Straker as XO did the heavy lifting. THEN, Henderson
would retire upstairs while Straker took over. (There's a definite
father/son dynamic there, don't ya think?)

Instead, Straker is given the nod, despite giving all the appropriate
responses. (He was not about to shout to the committee 'Screw Henderson. I
want it!', now would he?)

As for harsh management style - I never saw it as all that harsh.
Single-minded and hard-nosed, maybe, but he never asked anyone to do what he
wouldn't do himself. I've always gotten a kick out of how in UFO Straker is
shown to be a good manager (he's holding down two jobs and one of them is
saving the planet.) and his subordinates complain at how mean he is while on
the other hand in Space 1999 Koenig shows favoritism, yells, is moody and
yet HIS subordinates all exclaim what a great guy he is.

I figure I'd have a better chance of coming back from a mission alive with
Straker as my CO.

And one of these days I have to finish my article on how to cast horoscopes
for interconnected fictional characters. (http://www.metaphys icalzone. com)

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TRT

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

In reply to this post by Deborah Rorabaugh-2

Well, I tried to work out the horoscope for Doctor "Tiger" Ninestein,
but it seems he was born under the sign of Pyrex.

Grant.

On 20 Jan 2010, at 16:48, D.A. Rorabaugh wrote:

> Ah, but there's also Ascendant, Moon and Mercury to consider as well
> as the
> hard aspects.
>
> How I see Straker's deferring to Henderson - they both saw their
> potential
> career paths with SHADO as Henderson taking command, using his
> contacts to
> ease the way, while Straker as XO did the heavy lifting. THEN,
> Henderson
> would retire upstairs while Straker took over. (There's a definite
> father/son dynamic there, don't ya think?)
>
> Instead, Straker is given the nod, despite giving all the appropriate
> responses. (He was not about to shout to the committee 'Screw
> Henderson. I
> want it!', now would he?)
>
> As for harsh management style - I never saw it as all that harsh.
> Single-minded and hard-nosed, maybe, but he never asked anyone to do
> what he
> wouldn't do himself. I've always gotten a kick out of how in UFO
> Straker is
> shown to be a good manager (he's holding down two jobs and one of
> them is
> saving the planet.) and his subordinates complain at how mean he is
> while on
> the other hand in Space 1999 Koenig shows favoritism, yells, is
> moody and
> yet HIS subordinates all exclaim what a great guy he is.
>
> I figure I'd have a better chance of coming back from a mission
> alive with
> Straker as my CO.
>
> And one of these days I have to finish my article on how to cast
> horoscopes
> for interconnected fictional characters. (http://www.metaphysicalzone.com
> )
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

Lightcudder-2

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

And James T. Kirk was born under Teflon - nothing sticks to him!

--- In [hidden email], Grant Wray <grant.wray@...> wrote:
>
> Well, I tried to work out the horoscope for Doctor "Tiger" Ninestein,
> but it seems he was born under the sign of Pyrex.
>
> Grant.
>
>
>

~Agent April Dancer~

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

In reply to this post by Lightcudder-2

Louise.. May I make a small suggestion.

This kind of question has come up in other fandoms I am in and write for.

Dark Shadows, Man/Girl From UNCLE and so on.

If you have not would clue to a characters birthday.Which rarely is ever given anyway. Just use the actors real birthday. As to where they were born. Use what you know about a said character and come up with whatever feels right. Remember Louise. Whatever you write is YOUR fanfic-universe. Use the 'conon' info when you can. But beyond that. It's all up to your what is in your ff-universe.

I hope I have been some help to you Louise.. Best of luck with your stories.

April

<< A very interesting thought! I particularly like the Henderson/Straker..Father/son idea - that might go some way to explaining the apparent change in attitude by Henderson. - dads don't always get on with their sons! And yes, I think Straker would be the better CO in any mission! However, it still doesn't get me any closer to Straker's birthdate! I think I may just have to go with the 'canon' in The Patriot (even though it was never filmed) and stick at Sept 21st. I need it for a new story!

Thanks Deborah! and I like your Metaphysical =zone site - the advice for me for today was scarily accurate! Ltcdr/Louise >>

Lightcudder-2

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

Yes, thanks April, but it was an interesting topic! and got somegood responses! For which many thanks!
Sept 21st it is then! (maybe??)
Hmmm.... Straker as a virgo?
Ltcdr/LEO

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, ~Agent April Dancer~ <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: ~Agent April Dancer~ <[hidden email]>
Subject: [SHADO] Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 1:45 PM

Louise.. May I make a small suggestion.

This kind of question has come up in other fandoms I am in and write for.

Dark Shadows, Man/Girl From UNCLE and so on.

If you have not would clue to a characters birthday.Which rarely is ever given anyway. Just use the actors real birthday. As to where they were born. Use what you know about a said character and come up with whatever feels right. Remember Louise. Whatever you write is YOUR fanfic-universe. Use the 'conon' info when you can. But beyond that. It's all up to your what is in your ff-universe.

I hope I have been some help to you Louise.. Best of luck with your stories.

April

<< A very interesting thought! I particularly like the Henderson/Straker. .Father/son idea - that might go some way to explaining the apparent change in attitude by Henderson. - dads don't always get on with their sons! And yes, I think Straker would be the better CO in any mission! However, it still doesn't get me any closer to Straker's birthdate! I think I may just haveto go with the 'canon' in The Patriot (even though it was never filmed) and stick at Sept 21st. I need it for a new story!

Thanks Deborah! and I like your Metaphysical =zone site - the advice for me for today was scarily accurate! Ltcdr/Louise >>

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mitchell3617@sbcglobal.net

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

In reply to this post by ~Agent April Dancer~

In IMDB.com it lists Ed's birthday as 11 June 1932.

Richard

--- In [hidden email], ~Agent April Dancer~ <aprildancer3@...> wrote:

>
> Louise.. May I make a small suggestion.
>
> This kind of question has come up in other fandoms I am in and write for.
>
> Dark Shadows, Man/Girl From UNCLE and so on.
>
> If you have not would clue to a characters birthday.Which rarely is ever given anyway. Just use the actors real birthday. As to where they were born. Use what you know about a said character and come up with whatever feels right. Remember Louise. Whatever you write is YOUR fanfic-universe. Use the'conon' info when you can. But beyond that. It's all up to your what is inyour ff-universe.
>
> I hope I have been some help to you Louise.. Best of luck with your stories.
>
> April
>
> << A very interesting thought! I particularly like the Henderson/Straker..Father/son idea - that might go some way to explaining the apparent changein attitude by Henderson. - dads don't always get on with their sons! And yes, I think Straker would be the better CO in any mission! However, it still doesn't get me any closer to Straker's birthdate! I think I may just have to go with the 'canon' in The Patriot (even though it was never filmed) and stick at Sept 21st. I need it for a new story!
>
> Thanks Deborah! and I like your Metaphysical =zone site - the advice for me for today was scarily accurate! Ltcdr/Louise >>
>

Lightcudder-2

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

Thanks Mitchell, but that's Ed Bishops birthday, and I really wanted to be true to the series - although my stories often aren't!! I'll stick with the script of The Patriot, even though it wasn't filmed!
Thany you everyone who has helped!
Much appreciated and I enjoyed the 'conversation'!

Next topic? ....
Ltcdr/LEO

--- On Fri, 1/22/10, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: [SHADO] Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 1:07 PM

In IMDB.com it lists Ed's birthday as 11 June 1932.

Richard

--- In SHADO@yahoogroups. com, ~Agent April Dancer~ <aprildancer3@ ...> wrote:

>
> Louise.. May I make a small suggestion.
>
> This kind of question has come up in other fandoms I am in and write for.
>
> Dark Shadows, Man/Girl From UNCLE and so on.
>
> If you have not would clue to a characters birthday.Which rarely is ever given anyway. Just use the actors real birthday. As to where they were born. Use what you know about a said character and come up with whatever feels right. Remember Louise. Whatever you write is YOUR fanfic-universe. Use the'conon' info when you can. But beyond that. It's all up to your what is inyour ff-universe.
>
> I hope I have been some help to you Louise.. Best of luck with your stories.
>
> April
>
> << A very interesting thought! I particularly like the Henderson/Straker..Father/son idea - that might go some way to explaining the apparent change in attitude by Henderson. - dads don't always get on with their sons! Andyes, I think Straker would be the better CO in any mission! However, it still doesn't get me any closer to Straker's birthdate! I think I may just have to go with the 'canon' in The Patriot (even though it was never filmed) and stick at Sept 21st. I need it for a new story!
>
> Thanks Deborah! and I like your Metaphysical =zone site - the advice for me for today was scarily accurate! Ltcdr/Louise >>
>

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Taras Bobiwsky

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

In reply to this post by Lightcudder-2

Hi guys I googled Ed Straker and on
UFO.EPGUIDES.INFO Commander Ed Straker was born on July 10 1940 to Lt. Col John Charles Straker.
Hope this helps!

Sent from my iPod

Deborah Rorabaugh-2

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

In reply to this post by Lightcudder-2

Mid-1940 makes him too young to be a full colonel in 1970. 1937 or early '38
is as young as you can make him and still give him time to make the rank.
(And that's assuming he made all his promotions at minimum time in rank AND
started early.)

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dave_copley

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

In reply to this post by Taras Bobiwsky

July 10th 1940 is the date for Straker's birthday as shown in the 'Character Profiles' section on the DVD extras in the UK boxed set. It's on volume 2(Survival/Conflict/Dalotek Affair).

Not sure how 'official' this is, perhaps it was made up by the DVD distributors as a way of adding further content.

--- In [hidden email], Taras Bobiwsky <bobiwskyt@...> wrote:
>
> Hi guys I googled Ed Straker and on
> UFO.EPGUIDES.INFO Commander Ed Straker was born on July 10 1940 to Lt. Col John Charles Straker.
> Hope this helps!
>
> Sent from my iPod
>

Denise Felt

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

In reply to this post by Deborah Rorabaugh-2

--- In [hidden email], "D.A. Rorabaugh" <momkat@...> wrote:
>
> Mid-1940 makes him too young to be a full colonel in 1970. 1937 or early '38
> is as young as you can make him and still give him time to make the rank.

Not necessarily, Deb. My Dad told me that promotions can come before schedule for meritorious service. Seems to me that Straker would have earned atleast one promotion that way. He's such an overachiever!
Yours,
Denise

Straker, somehow it's always about you.

Paul Bowers

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

In reply to this post by Deborah Rorabaugh-2

On 10-01-20 9:48 AM, D.A. Rorabaugh wrote:

> And one of these days I have to finish my article on how to cast horoscopes
> for interconnected fictional characters. (http://www.metaphysicalzone.com)

Maybe you could create a big "checkable" list of fictional characters'
actions and softwareize it.

Paul

Deborah Rorabaugh-2

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

In reply to this post by Lightcudder-2

Well, for an early 1938 Bday (which is the one I chose) - That required he
graduate college a year yearly so he could be sworn in as an officer before
21, made every single promotion at minimum time AND got the POW credit (Viet
Nam POWs got put to the top of their promotion lists.) I'm told the USAF is
quite strict on their time-in-grade rules.

Since I've never heard of the 1940 Bday, OR John Charles Straker, I suspect
this was made up by the DVD people. (I'm sure that someone around here with
access to Fanderson's stuff would have mentioned an 'official' birthdate
years ago, if it existed.)

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davrecon-4

Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

His POW time must have been very short......

Dave H.

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----- Original Message -----
From: D.A. Rorabaugh
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 11:11 AM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: Ed Straker's Birthdate?

Well, for an early 1938 Bday (which is the one I chose) - That required he
graduate college a year yearly so he could be sworn in as an officer before
21, made every single promotion at minimum time AND got the POW credit (Viet
Nam POWs got put to the top of their promotion lists.) I'm told the USAF is
quite strict on their time-in-grade rules.

Since I've never heard of the 1940 Bday, OR John Charles Straker, I suspect
this was made up by the DVD people. (I'm sure that someone around here with
access to Fanderson's stuff would have mentioned an 'official' birthdate
years ago, if it existed.)

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