Elevator Watching!

I've been in the habit of watching some episodes recently, and once again athought has occurred to me after all these years. Whenever I see Straker's office descending into SHADO HQ, I notice that the windows and, presumably, the outer wall descends as well.

So . . . if I just happened to be standing outside the building, would I beseeing an entire small section of it (Straker's office) occasionally rising and falling?


Michael

Apparently so.  Gerry Anderson addressed that issue in his DVD commentary.  If I recall correctly, he said he hadn't thought about it at thetime, lol.
 
Jeff

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From: Michael <[hidden email]>
Subject: [SHADO] Elevator Watching!
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Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 10:47 AM


 



I've been in the habit of watching some episodes recently, and once again athought has occurred to me after all these years. Whenever I see Straker'soffice descending into SHADO HQ, I notice that the windows and, presumably, the outer wall descends as well.

So . . . if I just happened to be standing outside the building, would I beseeing an entire small section of it (Straker's office) occasionally rising and falling?

Michael








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P.S.  One way around that would have been having the outer shell stay above ground, with blinds that would automatically drop to cover the windows, right?
 
And no, I didn't send my previous message twice.  Yahoo must be havingissues again.
 
Jeff

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Apparently so.  Gerry Anderson addressed that issue in his DVD commentary.  If I recall correctly, he said he hadn't thought about it at thetime, lol.
 
Jeff

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From: Michael <[hidden email]>
Subject: [SHADO] Elevator Watching!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 10:47 AM

 

I've been in the habit of watching some episodes recently, and once again athought has occurred to me after all these years. Whenever I see Straker'soffice descending into SHADO HQ, I notice that the windows and, presumably, the outer wall descends as well.

So . . . if I just happened to be standing outside the building, would I beseeing an entire small section of it (Straker's office) occasionally rising and falling?

Michael

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> P.S.  One way around that would have been having the outer shell stay
> above ground, with blinds that would automatically drop to cover the
> windows, right?

Or a one-way window in the outer shell, so everyone just sees their
own reflection when looking into the window from the outside.

Marc

Even better!!
 
Jeff

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Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 12:07 PM


 



> P.S.  One way around that would have been having the outer shell stay
> above ground, with blinds that would automatically drop to cover the
> windows, right?

Or a one-way window in the outer shell, so everyone just sees their
own reflection when looking into the window from the outside.

Marc







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The walls will likely be made up of two layers - one layer (the outer
layer) has all the windows and whatever that you would see from outside, the
other one (the inner layer) has all the windows to match the outer layer.
When the office descends if they used normal windows depending on how quick
the office descends you'd likely see a quick flash of a top of the office
disappearing into the floor. However to cover this they'd likely use some
technological gizmo (such as those one way windows you can get nowadays, those
where you can see out but no one can see in) or some other such device to
keep people from seeing the secret. The question is does Straker have
someone in his office to push the button and announce the floors - "Basement
level 1 - Ladies Lingerie and makeup Basement Level 2 - Household Items,
Basement Level 3 - SHADO Secret Headquarters" :-)


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--- In [hidden email], CMarkChester@... wrote:

> The question is does Straker have
> someone in his office to push the button and announce the floors - "Basement
> level 1 - Ladies Lingerie and makeup Basement Level 2 - Household Items,  
> Basement Level 3 - SHADO Secret Headquarters" :-)


I don't know, but I've often imagined SHADO during shift changes: with a crowd of people gathered around Miss Ealand's desk, checking their watches and impatiently waiting for the office to arrive.

("That is one peculiar executive section for a film studio," visitors sometime whisper to each other.)


Michael

> The question is does Straker have someone in his
> office to push the button and announce the floors

And how does he explain the gap in the floor between
his office and Miss Ealand's area? :-)

Marc

Perhaps there's another office that comes up to take the empty space.. a bit like the sofa in Thunderbirds when Alan etc go to TB3?
It was a really silly idea having a lift like that.
Wonder what they did when it broke down?
It was a pity that we never saw other entrances into Shado. There must havebeen a cargo lift, and a general personnel lift...

Louise
--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
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> > The question is does Straker have someone in his
> > office to push the button and announce the floors
>
> And how does he explain the gap in the floor between
> his office and Miss Ealand's area? :-)
>
> Marc
>

...and the Batpoles...errr, SHADOpoles ;-)

Bestest,

John Ellis

On May 23, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Lightcudder wrote:



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In Court Martial, when Paul escapes at the end by going through Strakers art behind the desk, he is next seen in a elevator going up, then escaping through a day that is part of the studios.

Bruce
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Subject: [SHADO] Re: Elevator Watching!



Perhaps there's another office that comes up to take the empty space.. a bit like the sofa in Thunderbirds when Alan etc go to TB3?
It was a really silly idea having a lift like that.
Wonder what they did when it broke down?
It was a pity that we never saw other entrances into Shado. There must have been a cargo lift, and a general personnel lift...

Louise
--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > The question is does Straker have someone in his
> > office to push the button and announce the floors
>
> And how does he explain the gap in the floor between
> his office and Miss Ealand's area? :-)
>
> Marc
>





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meant through a door.. not a day :) sorry

Bruce
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In Court Martial, when Paul escapes at the end by going through Strakers art behind the desk, he is next seen in a elevator going up, then escaping through a day that is part of the studios.

Bruce
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From: Lightcudder
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Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 3:25 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: Elevator Watching!

Perhaps there's another office that comes up to take the empty space.. a bit like the sofa in Thunderbirds when Alan etc go to TB3?
It was a really silly idea having a lift like that.
Wonder what they did when it broke down?
It was a pity that we never saw other entrances into Shado. There must have been a cargo lift, and a general personnel lift...

Louise
--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > The question is does Straker have someone in his
> > office to push the button and announce the floors
>
> And how does he explain the gap in the floor between
> his office and Miss Ealand's area? :-)
>
> Marc
>

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Yes, and there was the other elevator in 'Timelash' but they were both 'secret' weren't they? Although in Mindbender there are two guards who say that Straker hadn't come in that way presumably through another lift?
But wasn't it only the senior staff who used that 'office'elevator.. or am I getting confused?


--- In [hidden email], "Bruce Sherman" <brucesherman@...> wrote:
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> In Court Martial, when Paul escapes at the end by going through Strakers art behind the desk, he is next seen in a elevator going up, then escaping through a day that is part of the studios.
>
>

Well RHIP (Rank Has It's Privileges) :-)


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.. what about the cheesy muzak?



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Lightcudder
Sent: Monday, 24 May 2010 5:12 AM
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Subject: [SHADO] Re: Elevator Watching!





Yes, and there was the other elevator in 'Timelash' but they were both
'secret' weren't they? Although in Mindbender there are two guards who say
that Straker hadn't come in that way presumably through another lift?
But wasn't it only the senior staff who used that 'office'elevator.. or am I
getting confused?

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Sherman" <brucesherman@...> wrote:
>
> In Court Martial, when Paul escapes at the end by going through Strakers
art behind the desk, he is next seen in a elevator going up, then escaping
through a day that is part of the studios.
>
>





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On Sun, 23 May 2010 12:12:57 -0700
"Marc Martin" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> > The question is does Straker have someone in his
> > office to push the button and announce the floors
>
> And how does he explain the gap in the floor between
> his office and Miss Ealand's area? :-)
>

There isn't one! Didn't someone post a link to a screen
capture to demonstrate that point a few years ago?

And how does he explain the gap in the floor between
> his office and Miss Ealand's area? :-)
>
> Marc
>
It might explain why there is a sign saying "Do not enter" over Straker's office door. Anyone ignoring it would go through to plummet fifty feet or more to a certain death on Straker's office roof.

All a bit silly really. What's wrong with a private lift, or God forbid, *stairs!*

Hi,

I think given that SHADO has the technology to put people regularly on the Moon, operate state-of-the-art technology, A bombs, most advanced computers, SkyDiver, etc. etc... a precision engineering design job on Commander Straker's link would be fairly straight forward.

Given that Ed Straker is the CEO of Harlington-Straker Film Studios, AND CIC of SHADO, I would guess that he would have to make the journey between the two very regularly.

An office/lift is a great cover, good security without raising any suspicions (Where's Ed Straker? Having a private meeting in his office - who would argue?... (I think the brouhaha over the external view of Straker's office descending is over-blown and easily solved with one-way glass or other simple deception), good use of time and efficiency

Also, I know of airtight hermetically sealed lifts working regularly at Intel, the technology is no problem, and that is a far greater engineering challenge.

Regards,

Griff

PS. Of course, if you REALLY want to throw technology at the problem... maybe Straker's office is stationary, and it's everything else that ascends/decends... He is the boss of the world ;)

--- In [hidden email], "Rob" <tryptych@...> wrote:

If you realy think abou it. There has to be a seperate entrance for  
regular staff. A question would come up as to why are all these people  
coming into your office but never come out.?
Also, if you are doing studio work everyone would be passing thru your  
office. And what of shift changes? It would be easyer to have people  
go into an office building or a sound stage and dissapair. There had  
to have been at lease 50 or more at one time.

"Live Long & Prosper"

On May 23, 2010, at 5:09 PM, "David Richards" <[hidden email]
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