This was the one of the episodes I missed from the original run here. My
parents forced me to go with them on vacation and I never forgave them, until a few months, when I saw the episode for the first time, that is. For me, this is by far the worst episode of the series. It tried to continue the matter of interpersonal emotional relations from "The Computer Affair", has an interesting premise, but is poorly executed. There is no suspense where it should be, episode drags on forever and guest stars are problematic at best. Darren Nesbit is not bad an actor (although he overplays a bit, sometimes), but is so ugly that he makes the premise unbelievable. He was a good choice for No. 2 in Prisoner, though. Gary Raymond is so uninteresting that you don't care if Col. Grey lives or dies. There are a few inconsistencies: Why would Col. Gray go to Craig and warn him that he discovered his change, virtually pleading for his own death? Why would SHADO need Doppelgangerian rocket for repairing SID when they have their own Lunar Modules and Carriers (if not only to re-use the footage from Doppelganger)? How could Foster answer Col. Grey's phone call at SHADO Headquarters only a few days after doctor ordered him to stay in bed for two weeks because he was injured on Moonbase? Also, why would Craig spare Grey and Jackson? And, we have a character that would have been a major for his accomplishment (god forbid-watching Nesbit in all of UFO) that haven't been even mentioned before. Probably there's more... This episode also suffers the weakness we could find a lot in UFO. In normal dramatic structure, the resolution should be followed by the epilogue ("Close Up" first comes to mind as an excellent example of what should be done), and everything feels resolved. Here we end with resolution only and we feel that episode is only stopped, not really ended. Personally, I didn't like Moonbase personnel not wearing their wigs in a majority of the episode. Perhaps the director wanted to show characters differently in their off duty hours, emphasizing their personal lives, maybe Wanda Wentham didn't want to wear the wig throughout entire episode (doesn't suit her anyway, especially compared to wonderful Gabrielle Drake), maybe they hadn't enough or there was something else. The interesting thing about the episode is guest starring of Rona Newton John (Olivia's sister) as a Nurse, although I couldn't recognise her ( I only saw her pictures from the late seventies). Perhaps my attitude towards this episode would be different if I hadn't go to that vacation, after all... All the best, Branko ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com |
Thanks Branko, for keeping our episode discussions on positive track! :-)
You are of course correct that there are several odd/unbelievable/inconsistent things about this episode. However, on the whole, I still like this episode... I think it's well done, with good acting and some good conflicts... Col. Grey is kind of an odd character... we only see him in this one episode, and yet he acts as if he's a regular character like Col. Freeman! Of course, perhaps that's the way the episode was scripted -- after George Sewell was found to be unavailable for the final 9 episodes, the producers had intended to use Gary Raymond's Col. Grey character as a replacement for Freeman. However, Ed Bishop suggested Wanda Ventham takeover that role, and the rest is history... Interesting to think how the final 9 episodes would have differed with Col. Grey instead of Col. Lake... hard to imagine Timelash this way, although perhaps they could've used Nina? -- Marc Martin, [hidden email] |
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Rockets vs lunar modules and wig wearing protocols are really trivial
issues for me. They can be explained away or just overlooked. At first this episode bugged me because the Alien control didn't make sense. I assumed that the Aliens just wanted the destruction of SHADO and wouldn't have had reason to be distracted by all the interpersonal issues. Additionally Collins takes the round about way to kill Straker and disable SID. But I now wonder whether the Aliens figured to make Collins a "loose cannon" and simply assume that he'll eventually reap havoc over SHADO. This would better explain his foul personality vs the robot behavior of the Psychobombs. |
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Marc Martin wrote:
> Interesting to think how the final 9 episodes would have differed > with Col. Grey instead of Col. Lake... hard to imagine Timelash this > way, although perhaps they could've used Nina? Oooooooooooooh, Nina in Timelash ............... KERPLOP! Thanks, Marc. {{:-) -- Y -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Yuchtar zantai-Klaan | [hidden email] I am not a number! I am a FREE FAN! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "I'm glad we didn't take the cottage cheese." -- Napoleon Solo =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= http://users.ipa.net/~yuchtar/ http://users2.50megs.com/nunzie |
Marc Martin wrote:
> Interesting to think how the final 9 episodes would have differed > with Col. Grey instead of Col. Lake ... Or how those episodes would have run with a Grey (as in Zeta Reticuli) on SHADO top staff? |
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On 25 Apr 2000 Marc Martin <[hidden email]> posted:
> So, does anyone have any additional comments on our episode-of-the-week, > THE MAN WHO CAME BACK? Anyone else rank this episode as their least > favorite, or perhaps just the opposite? Well, I have yet to view my bootleg copy of the episode in it's entirety, but my recollection from the SFC airing a couple of years back was not very favorable. There were too many things that did not hold up under scrutiny, both in terms of the story line and the casting. To begin with, the concept of a "lost" astronaut re-appearing unscathed should have aroused suspicion within SHADO. Especially when the British were so masterful at the spy game during WWII, what with the planting of bogus D-Day plans on a corpse, etc. The fact that nobody, not even Straker, is properly suspicious of Craig Collins indicates that personal relationships are overriding protocol. After the Nina-Bradley institutionalized interrogations of "The Computer Affair", this strikes me as hypocritical.(SIC) From a production standpoint, while this episode does not "flow" nearly as well as "Conflict", neither is the editing as helter-skelter as "CloseUp." Instead, I thought that it ranked toward the rougher side, which is only to be expected if this was indeed the first episode filmed after the studio-changing hiatus. Unlike Branko Vekic, I find ambiguous and non-closure endings appealing, since they mimic real life. In fact, one of the biggest appeals of "Miami Vice" were the grity endings in which the bad guys got away. But I will agree with Branko in that the rocket launch was unneccessary given the existence of the SHADO lunar module. Therefore I have the feeling that this was added to pad out the story to proper filming length. Branko also wrote that > Gary Raymond is so uninteresting > that you don't care if Col. Grey lives or dies. and I would tend to agree with him. My memory fails me as to whether or not the character lived by the end of the episode. But if the Grey character was indeed the replacement for Col. Freeman, then I would expect that the character would have to survive. And as Marc posted on 23 Apr 2000, > Interesting to think how the final 9 episodes would have differed > with Col. Grey instead of Col. Lake... Indeed. And since the Lake/Grey characters were receiving some of the lines designated for the Freeman character, I can see that Yuchtar and the other slashers are probably licking their lips over the possiblity of a Freeman-Craig romance. And since I just skewered the gender-persuasion of one of my favorite SHADO characters, I will stop here before commiting any further sacrilege to my UFO recollections. JEK |
Jeff Kuzma wrote:
> > Interesting to think how the final 9 episodes would have differed > > with Col. Grey instead of Col. Lake... > > Indeed. And since the Lake/Grey characters were receiving some > of the lines designated for the Freeman character, I can see that > Yuchtar and the other slashers are probably licking their lips over > the possiblity of a Freeman-Craig romance. WHAT?! <gawk> Freeman/Craig?! <gawk gawk> HECK NO!!!!!!!!!! Not from MY pen, anyway <running away> -- Y -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Yuchtar zantai-Klaan | [hidden email] I am not a number! I am a FREE FAN! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "I'm glad we didn't take the cottage cheese." -- Napoleon Solo =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= http://users.ipa.net/~yuchtar/ http://users2.50megs.com/nunzie |
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