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Jaime wrote:

> No... You're probably getting it mixed up with 'Platoon'. That was
> Oliver's war flick.
>
> Jaime

Oh. Okay.

<<
> Sorry, Yuchtar. Fully Metal Jacket is a Kubrick film. You are thinking of
> Platoon which is the one by Stone which came out a year earlier in 1986.

Guys, guys, guys ... You can't blame Yuchy. She's such a fan of
Kubrick's work that she just gets all of a whirl when she starts
thinking about the subject. No wonder she's confused, poor lass :-)

Dave.
>>

Yeah yeah - TTTHHHSSSPPPPTTTTT!

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--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:
> >Anyone knows what is the exact connection between 2001 and
> >UFO?
>
> They were both filmed at the same film studio - MGM Borehamwood.
> Ed's been quoted saying that they were filmed at the same time,
> but he must be thinking of something different, as 2001 was
> in theaters a full year before UFO began filming!
>
> Marc

I guess I was asking in particular, about the special effects and
miniatures. I haven't seen 2001 in awhile, but again, from what I
remember, the lunar rover looked very similar to the one in UFO. I
recently checked the 2001 movie credits, and I don't see Derek
Meddings in them...

Dvaid Levine

Didn't Brian Johnson work on 2001? I think he mentions as such in the
interview on the STINGRAY set.

Brian

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Yes, though his name was Brian Johncock at the time. And the Moonbus
from 2001 looks absolutely nothing like the Moon hopper from UFO.
AT

Brian Lindstrand wrote:

I think urban myth is creeping in here, although it has been long
assumed that there was a strong Anderson connection with 2001, most of
it is pretty tenous stuff - there was no cross over of any
significance, period. I believe a couple of the model techie's may
have moved across from Anderson to Kubrick - but that's about it.
There is a tale that Kubrick did try to coerce more of Anderson
special effects team into the 2001 stable, but this was
[understandbly] balked by the Andersons.

It should be remembered Kubrick started serious work on 2001 early in
1964 with principle shooting commencing [if my memory serves me right]
2nd Jan 1965 !

Marc is quite right 2001 was in the cinemas nearly a full year before
shooting started on UFO started, so there was very little, if no
chance of any on set cross over between the two productions.

As regards 2001 props turning up on UFO, that is highly unlikey as
Kubrick had all the special effects models and props from 2001
purposely destroyed and expressly forbad and use of clips of 2001
being used as stock footage in other movies - in a effort to prevent
"his" masterpiece being cheapened.

I believe this was brought about when Kubrick saw someone walking
across the studio lot with the model of the the B-52 from Strangelove,
inquiring were it was been taken, he was told it was being [re]used on
an other film. From that point in time Kubrick instructed that all
models used on his movies be destroyed upon completion of the movie. I
have to stay apart from the general principle of flying close to the
lunar surface I see very little simularity between the 2001 Moonbus
and the SHADO Moon-mobile. Although, one of the 2001 space suits did
survive Kubricks rout, I'm far from convinced it was re-used in UFO.

All those that interested in what happened to [some of]the models from
2001 should point there browser at the following link:

www.visual-memory.co.uk/f...ation.html

It is sobering, but extremely interesting story on that page,
especially the images of the derlict model of the Space Station V
laying in the grass being left to the vandals.


The Lunadude.









--- In [hidden email], "David Levine <dlevine2100@y...>"
<dlevine2100@y...> wrote:

Sorry forgot to post the link to the text re: the demise of the 2001
models.

www.visual-memory.co.uk/faq/index4.html


The Lunadude.

--- In [hidden email], highcotton51@m... wrote:
> Yes, though his name was Brian Johncock at the time. And the Moonbus
> from 2001 looks absolutely nothing like the Moon hopper from UFO.
> AT

I should had checked before I asked. You are right, the moon rover
doesn't look like the one in UFO:

http://www.palantir.net/cgi-bin/image.cgi?pics/mystery04.jpg

http://www.palantir.net/cgi-bin/image.cgi?pics/mystery07.jpg

Actually, the one in 2001 looks more functional and better than the
one in UFO! :-( :-(

David Levine

Too bad those pics don't exist anymore.

Anthony
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Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:35 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: Freeman Fans

> I guess I was asking in particular, about the special effects and
> miniatures. I haven't seen 2001 in awhile, but again, from what I
> remember, the lunar rover looked very similar to the one in UFO. I
> recently checked the 2001 movie credits, and I don't see Derek
> Meddings in them...

I believe the model work on 2001 was executed by Douglas
Trumbull (sp?).

Dave.

"lunadude2001 " wrote:

snip

> As regards 2001 props turning up on UFO, that is highly unlikey as
> Kubrick had all the special effects models and props from 2001
> purposely destroyed and expressly forbad and use of clips of 2001
> being used as stock footage in other movies - in a effort to prevent
> "his" masterpiece being cheapened.

<coff coff choke coff>
<ahem>
Riiiiiiiiiiight ......

Okay, I really feel I MUST do this - sorry, Marc, but what else can I
do? All this talk of the TWO movie - it's just too much!

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____<_____\\__\__(___)_))_((_(____))__(_(___.oooO_____Oooo.(_(_)_)((_

ALL Y'ALL HAST BEEN FLAMED !!!!!!


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Hello Yuchtar :)

I've been on this list for a few years now (gulp :) ...and in all that time,
I cannot remember for the life of me reading what it is exactly about the
ahem... film in question (phew - think I got away with it) that you do not
like (understatement!).

I am sure you must have (once) stated it for the record, but for the benefit
of those such as myself, and for those otherwise in danger of succumbing to
a similar fate (such as our esteemed list owner and moderator) ... please
can you elucidate? ...and please make it good, as I get the feeling one does
not get to ask this more than once in a lifetime ;)

...and er... what is the protocol here? could we refer to the film using
symbols (say MMI ...to be rather Roman) Mmmm.... Prince had loads of
problems once he adopted a symbol, on the other hand he didn't ever get
flamed by Yuchtar??? Well, I don't think he did... mmm... he hasn't done a
whole lot lately, has he???? Oh dear... nasty!!!

Griff :)

ps. Well, it does say 'Yuchtar, the friendly Klingon' as your postscript ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Yuchtar [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:21 AM
To: [hidden email]

<coff coff choke coff>
<ahem>
Riiiiiiiiiiight ......

Okay, I really feel I MUST do this - sorry, Marc, but what else can I
do? All this talk of the TWO movie - it's just too much!

) ( ( (
( ) () @@ ) (( (
( ( )( @@ ( )) ) (
( ( ( ()( /---\ (()( (
_______ ) ) )(@ !O O! )@@ ( ) ) )
< ____) ) ( ( )( ()@ \ o / (@@@@@ ( ()( )
/--| |( o| ( ) ) ((@@(@@ !o! @@@@(@@@@@)() (
> \___| ) ( @)@@)@ /---\-/---\ )@@@@@()( )
| /---------+ (@@@@)@@@( // /-----\ \\ @@@)@@@@@(.
| | \ =========______/|@@@@@@@@@@@@@(@@@ // @ /---\ @ \\ @(@@@(@@@..
| \ \\=========------\|@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ O @@@ /-\ @@@ O @@(@)@@.
| \ \----+--\-))) @@@@@@@@@@ !! @@@@ % @@@@ !! @@)@@@ ...
| |\______|_)))/ . @@@@@@ !! @@ /---\ @@ !! @@(@@@ @..
\__========== * . @@ /MM /\O O/\ MM\ @@@@@@@..
| |-\ \ ( . @ !!! !! \-/ !! !!! @@@@@ .
| | \ \ ) . . @@@@ !! !! .(. @. .. .
| | \ \ ( / .( . \)). ( |O )( O! @@@@ . ) .
| | / / ) ( )). (( .) !! ((( !! @@ (. ((. . .
| | / / () )) )) .( ( ( ) ). ( !! )( !! ) (( )) ..
| |_< / ( ) ( ( ) ) (( ) )).) ((/ | ( | \( )) ((. ).
____<_____\\__\__(___)_))_((_(____))__(_(___.oooO_____Oooo.(_(_)_)((_

ALL Y'ALL HAST BEEN FLAMED !!!!!!


-- Y

Griff wrote:

> Hello Yuchtar :)

Hi, Griff! <waving>

> I've been on this list for a few years now (gulp :) ...and in all that time,
> I cannot remember for the life of me reading what it is exactly about the
> ahem... film in question (phew - think I got away with it) that you do not
> like (understatement!).

<smirk>

> I am sure you must have (once) stated it for the record, but for the benefit
> of those such as myself, and for those otherwise in danger of succumbing to
> a similar fate (such as our esteemed list owner and moderator) ... please
> can you elucidate? ...and please make it good, as I get the feeling one does
> not get to ask this more than once in a lifetime ;)

No, I can NOT elucidate! HMPH!

Wait <looking up elucidate - "To make clear or plain, especially by
explanation; clarify">
Hmmmmm, okay.

> ...and er... what is the protocol here? could we refer to the film using
> symbols (say MMI ...to be rather Roman) Mmmm.... Prince had loads of
> problems once he adopted a symbol, on the other hand he didn't ever get
> flamed by Yuchtar??? Well, I don't think he did... mmm... he hasn't done a
> whole lot lately, has he???? Oh dear... nasty!!!

Oh, PLEASE! Prince never mentioned the Two Movie, so I have never flamed
him. And that is how it should be called - The Two Movie. <ahem>

> Griff :)
>
> ps. Well, it does say 'Yuchtar, the friendly Klingon' as your postscript ;)

Oh, But I am! <big toothy grin>

No, I had never seen it at theatres and since Ed was in it and everyone
went on about what a GREAT film it was, I rented it. The first reason I
don'tlike it and don't like Kubrick is, he cut most of Ed's scenes and
ALL of his dialog. The other reason I hate the film is **IT PUT ME TO
SLEEP** I don't care how great the fx are, if I'm sleeping through it,
so what? I nodded off right after Ed's scene and woke up with damned HAL
singing freakin' Daisy! HATE that film. <grrrrrrr> (And, no, I wasn't
particularly sleepy when I tried to watch it)

On the other hand, I did like Lolita and even watched it three times
trying to find Ed!

THEN there was Saturn 3. LOL! I rented that too, cuz Ed was in it. Well,
all-in-all, it's not a BAD film, but Ed is in it for all of 3 seconds,
he is completely covered by some huge helmet and has only one line, AND!
I was NOT entirely prepared to see Kirk Douglas' nekkid butt <shudder
shudder> Marc got a big laugh out of that, cuz I had announced that I
had rented Saturn 3 and was going to make an evening of it and the next
day, he was rolling with laughter cuz he KNEW about Ed's tiny part and
Kirk's nekkid butt. <shaking head>

I am soooooo abused round here.

-- Y

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Hi All :)

Thanks to Yuchtar for the clarification on the protocol and reasoning for
her "Two Movie" issues. I 'think' I understand now ;) ...I have to say - at
the risk of being flamed - that I quite liked it, and it holds a special
place in my DVD collection, as much for the evolvement of the story by
Arthur C. Clarke and Stanley Kubrick, and special effects by Doug Trumbell
et al, and for just sheer coolness... admittedly dialogue is a little bland,
but I don't mind :)

BTW! I just remembered that Prince did a song called 1999... I wonder if he
is a UFO fan as well ;)

Best to all,

Griff

ps. Although I love UFO and everything about it, am a great admirer of Ed
Bishop and all the actors in UFO... ...you mentioned "Ed's tiny part and
Kirk's nekkid butt." ...Okay slightly out of context... ...and respect to
Ed, BUT it completely put me off my Cherrios... UGH Thanks a lot ;)

Griff wrote:

> ps. Although I love UFO and everything about it, am a great admirer of Ed
> Bishop and all the actors in UFO... ...you mentioned "Ed's tiny part and
> Kirk's nekkid butt." ...Okay slightly out of context... ...and respect to
> Ed, BUT it completely put me off my Cherrios... UGH Thanks a lot ;)


Well, how do you think I felt when I saw ...... Oh, see what you mean.
ROFLMAO!

-- Y, with no sympathy .... {{;-)



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Yuchtar wrote:

-- Y, with no sympathy .... {{;-)

I think we connected, just for a moment... A Klingon and a human - it's not
natural! ;)

Griff

Hi All :)

I received my complete set of Konami UFO models today from Comet Miniatures.
They sure look nice on one of the shelves in my office. Also, they are
really well made and beautifully finished, hard to believe they were 'just'
models supplied with candy - although admittedly, they are the most
expensive candy I have ever bought... bar none!!!

The only trouble is, being plastic they must give off an attractive odour,
or maybe its the smell from the little packet of candy that came with each
one, but our cats just will not leave them alone, either that or they are
UFO fans and are trying to play with them! Mmm... well, when UFO is being
played on the TV they all do seem to settle down - except for "The Cat With
Ten Lives" - What on earth did they do to that poor cat? Mine go completely
ape when they hear that! My girlfriend Sabbie gets really upset as well...
ooops.

Sorry if I'm off topic... been away on biz... which episode are we on?

Best,

Griff

where were these models released, and has anyone got pics of them?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Griff" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:11 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Konami UFO models


> Hi All :)
>
> I received my complete set of Konami UFO models today from Comet
Miniatures.
> They sure look nice on one of the shelves in my office. Also, they are
> really well made and beautifully finished, hard to believe they were
'just'
> models supplied with candy - although admittedly, they are the most
> expensive candy I have ever bought... bar none!!!
>
> The only trouble is, being plastic they must give off an attractive odour,
> or maybe its the smell from the little packet of candy that came with each
> one, but our cats just will not leave them alone, either that or they are
> UFO fans and are trying to play with them! Mmm... well, when UFO is being
> played on the TV they all do seem to settle down - except for "The Cat
With
> Ten Lives" - What on earth did they do to that poor cat? Mine go
completely

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Griff wrote:

> Hi All :)
>
> I received my complete set of Konami UFO models today from Comet Miniatures.
> They sure look nice on one of the shelves in my office. Also, they are
> really well made and beautifully finished, hard to believe they were 'just'
> models supplied with candy - although admittedly, they are the most
> expensive candy I have ever bought... bar none!!!

What kind of candy is it, BTW?

> The only trouble is, being plastic they must give off an attractive odour,
> or maybe its the smell from the little packet of candy that came with each
> one, but our cats just will not leave them alone, either that or they are
> UFO fans and are trying to play with them! Mmm... well, when UFO is being
> played on the TV they all do seem to settle down - except for "The Cat With
> Ten Lives" - What on earth did they do to that poor cat? Mine go completely
> ape when they hear that! My girlfriend Sabbie gets really upset as well...
> ooops.

SEE?! SEE?! <steam escaping from pointed ears> I TOLD y'all that episode
was BAD NEWS! As for my baby, he ignores it - he knows when a cat is
real or not and pays no attention what-so-ever to imaginary animals.

-- Y, thinking of picketing Harlington-Straker for cruelty to animals
.....

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Hi Yuchtar :)

The candy comes in the form of a small transparent plastic bag of... mmm.
let me count... 30 little white cylindrical blocks. They're look a little
like TicTacs...

Griff

Yuchtar wrote: What kind of candy is it, BTW?

Hi!

The Konami candy models were released (I believe) later last year, and have
been discussed at length on this list.

You can get them from Comet Miniatures at
http://cometminiatures.com/index.asp

Hope this helps.

Griff

ps. I could upload some pics to the SHADO site, although I am sure someone
has already done this.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Richards [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:59 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Konami UFO models


where were these models released, and has anyone got pics of them?