Freeman Fans

>Sorry if I'm off topic... been away on biz... which episode are we on?

We were last doing CLOSE UP, but I see that it's now past time to move
onto our next episode -- CONFETTI CHECK A-OK. So, anyone have any comments
on this one? No Aliens or UFO's in sight on this one, but still a fairly
important episode, I'd say...

Marc

>ps. I could upload some pics to the SHADO site, although I am sure someone
>has already done this.

There are photos of all of them at:

http://ufoseries.com/models/index.html

Marc

Marc Martin wrote:

> We were last doing CLOSE UP, but I see that it's now past time
> to move onto our next episode -- CONFETTI CHECK A-OK. So,
> anyone have any comments on this one? No Aliens or UFO's in
> sight on this one, but still a fairly important episode, I'd
> say...

It is an important episode I agree, one that tells us a lot
about the formation of SHADO and Straker's background in
particular. But for me at least, it's not a very good one.
The mawkish light entertainment lovey-dovey scenes make me
wince even more than the details of Straker's marriage breakup,
and I'm not really that interested in Straker's personal life
anyway. The dialogue between Straker and Henderson is
remarkable for the lack of consistency with their relationship
as portrayed elsewhere in the series.

One remarkable thing - Straker, a cool-headed Air Force
intelligence officer who always goes by the book and comes down
hard on his subordinates for lapses in security, turns out to
have been something of a security risk himself - as we see when
he confides in Freeman that he's considering telling his wife
about SHADO.

James

James Gibbon <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The dialogue between Straker and Henderson is
> remarkable for the lack of consistency with their relationship
> as portrayed elsewhere in the series.

Well, I think the lack on consitency was intentional --
the writer was trying to show us that Straker and
Henderson were good buddies back in 1970, but during
the 10 years of getting SHADO into operations, the
relationship soured.

Don't believe it? Well, CONFETTI was written by
UFO's script editor Tony Barwick. He also wrote
CLOSE UP and COURT MARTIAL, two episodes which
immediately preceded CONFETTI in UFO's production
order. And of course, as we all know, the relationship
between Henderson and Straker was pretty bad in
these episodes. So, such a glaring contrast *had*
to be intentional.

Marc

its not a great episode, but there are far worse ones. tha cat with
10 lives prings to mind!

and i can't belive that a humanitarian like straker would resort to
smacking his wife around. i was frankly a bit stunned!

baz

Okay, I KNOW this is kind of off topic, but I'm curious, do they taste
like tictacs??

-- Y

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First time I've seen "humanitarian" and "Straker" in the same sentence.
What would Lt. Keith "Yes, Master" Ford have to say about this?

Doug

At 12:06 AM 2/20/2003 -0000, you wrote:

Hi :)

Okay, I'm opening the packet (randomly picked from the SHADO mobile pack by
Sabbie :) ...sheesh... they're fiddly little beggars... oh damn, there's a
few gone on the floor... oh, leave them alone Jasper (cat ;) no, leave it
Lulu (other cat)... argh, now that's just dirty... okay, getting a fresh
one... ...just popping one in... Argh!! it's horrid!... sugary... sickly
sweet... dissolving on the tongue.... oh god... I remember that this kind of
sugary damnation when at first grade, and was always warned off them, or I
would wind up at the dentists...

Nope, it's official. They definitely do not taste like Tictacs! ....sheesh,
I think I preferred the revolting sugary cigarettes supplied with the UFO
cards... and they were pretty 'orrid!!

There it's done... s'truth, the thing's I do in the name of duty ;-)

Best to all,

Griff (just about to go get some SHADO mouthwash)

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Yuchtar wrote: Okay, I KNOW this is kind of off topic, but I'm curious, do
they taste
like tictacs??

LOL! Thanks! Above and beyond and all ...

-- Y, giggling


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> Hmmm, where was MOON ZERO TWO shot? Or perhaps, they are confused about the
> closeness of DOPPELGANGER's shooting with the start of UFO.

Hmmm, the IMDB doesn't say. Has someone commented on LEs
Bowie and whether or not he had a connection to the UFO sfx
team elsewhere? Looking down the list of credits for Mr. Bowie's
work I see he also worked on the effects for Vampire Circus (1972),
which Barnaby 'John Straker' Shaw appeared in. He also worked
on two of the Quatermass films and did uncredited work on
Kubrick's seminal masterpiece: thw two movie. From the sublime
to the ridiculous, he also worked on the sfx team behind Holiday on
the Buses (life's funny like that).

A curious and eclectic cast list, too. Of course, it has Catherine
Schell, staying in human shape for once. But it also features
Warren 'Alf Garnet' Mitchell and Bernard 'I only arsked' Breslaw,
too. Plus Carol 'Monty Python' Cleveland.

Dave.

> CONFETTI CHECK A-OK. So, anyone have any comments
> on this one? No Aliens or UFO's in sight on this one, but still a fairly
> important episode, I'd say...

An interesting episode. Shows a very different, playful Straker
before all the angst really set in. Also a different side to the
relationship between Henderson and Starker, too. Seems that this
was where the bad feeling began there; when Ed took the
leadership of SHADO leaving Henderson in the cold.

I somehow think you'll get a few of the women saying some pretty
unpleasant things about Mary too lol.

Dave.

> oh damn, there's a
> few gone on the floor... oh, leave them alone Jasper (cat ;) no, leave it
> Lulu (other cat)... argh, now that's just dirty...

Rotflmao.

> Nope, it's official. They definitely do not taste like Tictacs! ....sheesh,
> I think I preferred the revolting sugary cigarettes supplied with the UFO
> cards... and they were pretty 'orrid!!

I rmember quite liking sweet ciggies as a lad. Of course, these
days can you imagine the outcry there'd be if someone made
wseet cigarettes for kids?

Dave.

Marc Martin wrote:

> >Sorry if I'm off topic... been away on biz... which episode are we on?
>
> We were last doing CLOSE UP, but I see that it's now past time to move
> onto our next episode -- CONFETTI CHECK A-OK. So, anyone have any comments
> on this one? No Aliens or UFO's in sight on this one, but still a fairly
> important episode, I'd say...
>
> Marc

WooHoo!! Straker with yellow blond hair! YEAH!

<<
Well, I think the lack on consitency was intentional --
the writer was trying to show us that Straker and
Henderson were good buddies back in 1970, but during
the 10 years of getting SHADO into operations, the
relationship soured.
>>

Well, yeah, I always figured Henderson kind of resented Straker getting
the glamour job and Straker kind of resented Henderson making him take
the job that ruined his marriage.

<<
its not a great episode, but there are far worse ones. tha cat with
10 lives prings to mind!

and i can't belive that a humanitarian like straker would resort to
smacking his wife around. i was frankly a bit stunned!

baz
>>

LOL! Is there anyone who LIKES "Cat with Ten Lives?" Yeah, it does seem
a bit out of character for Straker to smack his wife. I guess they were
trying to show what the strain of SHADO was doing to him. I think Mary's
Dad kind of liked Straker - he seemed like a hen-pecked husband who was
genuinely fond of his son-in-law.

<<
I somehow think you'll get a few of the women saying some pretty
unpleasant things about Mary too lol.
Dave
>>

LOL! The Screacher Creature? <giggle>


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> I rmember quite liking sweet ciggies as a lad. Of course, these
> days can you imagine the outcry there'd be if someone made
> wseet cigarettes for kids?

Hey, I still see "Big League Chew" in the store! It's a bubble gum that
is shredded like chewing tobacco and comes in a pouch. So kids can be
like their favourite big league ball player and have a wad in their
cheek.

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Hi All :)

Sure makes me happy if I've bought a tiny bit of happiness :)

Griff

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Subject: Re: [SHADO] Semi-official Konami UFO model candy tasting


LOL! Thanks! Above and beyond and all ...

-- Y, giggling


Griff wrote:
>
> Hi :)
>
> Okay, I'm opening the packet (randomly picked from the SHADO mobile pack
by
> Sabbie :) ...sheesh... they're fiddly little beggars... oh damn, there's a
> few gone on the floor... oh, leave them alone Jasper (cat ;) no, leave it
> Lulu (other cat)... argh, now that's just dirty... okay, getting a fresh
> one... ...just popping one in... Argh!! it's horrid!... sugary... sickly
> sweet... dissolving on the tongue.... oh god... I remember that this kind
of
> sugary damnation when at first grade, and was always warned off them, or I
> would wind up at the dentists...
>
> Nope, it's official. They definitely do not taste like Tictacs!
....sheesh,
> I think I preferred the revolting sugary cigarettes supplied with the UFO
> cards... and they were pretty 'orrid!!
>
> There it's done... s'truth, the thing's I do in the name of duty ;-)
>
> Best to all,
>
> Griff (just about to go get some SHADO mouthwash)

> Dave wrote - Rotflmao.

So glad to bring a little happiness :)

> Dave wrote - I remember quite liking sweet ciggies as a lad. Of course,
these
> days can you imagine the outcry there'd be if someone made
> sweet cigarettes for kids?

Hi :)

It's amazing, and I don't know what it was that they put in the flavouring
of the UFO sweet cigarettes (thinking about it, I'd rather NOT know) but I
still have my full set of UFO cigarette cards, and they STILL have that
sweet sickly smell after all these years... takes me back a few decades in
an instant... one for the strange but true file I think...

S'truth, my cats really love those UFO candy sweets... they don't go this
mad even with cat nip!

Best to all

Griff

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"Griff" wrote:

>
> It's amazing, and I don't know what it was that they put in the
> flavouring of the UFO sweet cigarettes (thinking about it, I'd
> rather NOT know) but I still have my full set of UFO cigarette
> cards, and they STILL have that sweet sickly smell after all
> these years... takes me back a few decades in an instant... one
> for the strange but true file I think...

They still make sweet cigarettes as a matter of fact, but these
days they are called 'candy sticks' or something similar, and
they don't have the glowing red tip. I loved them myself ..

Re: Confetti-check
[hidden email] wrote:

> Actually he hit her because she was getting hysterical. If I had been there,
> I would have hit her harder, but that's me.
>
> Amelia (slightly biased as usual)

Oh, please! You'd've strangled her so you could have Ed all to yourself!
We all know THAT! <snort>

Re: Candy
[hidden email] wrote:

OHMYGOSH! Those look goooooooooooooood!
<drool drool slobber>

-- Y

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I always found this episode to be very touching.
Getting a look into Straker´s privat life - I think he was never
more "human" and vulnerable.

I loved to see the SHADO-Headquarter still being in a "work-in-
progress"-stage - looks a little like a "behind-the-scene"-
or "making-of"-thing.
I would have liked to see another episode with much more information
on "How it all began", "How SHADO was built and created" - that kind
of stuff.