Fw: [SHADO] UFO on Bluray

Let's face it, broadcast quality hardly ever is as good as DVD. I love to see films and TV programmes in high quality, but I'm not obsessive about it.It annoys me when I visit Blu ray DVD review forums and people start picking holes in the picture quality, sound, etc. Life's too short to be so picky - some people are never satisfied. I remember years ago someone tried an experiment at a hi-fi loudspeaker review. A critic was played a violin piece (while blindfolded) and was asked to compare the sound quality with an identical piece of music. Unknown to the critic, an actual violinist walked into the room and played his instrument. The critic said that the sound quality was not as good as the first piece (which was played through the hi-fi system).



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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Fri, 12 February, 2010 15:52:43
Subject: Re: [SHADO] UFO on Bluray

 
> I think "UFO "would scrub up nicely on Blu Ray. After all look how
> brilliant the Carlton boxed sets were!

Yes, in *theory* they could look great on Blu Ray. However, the big
reason the DVDs looked so good was due the talents and attention
given by those who did those film-to-video transfer. UFO has already
been remastered in HDTV and broadcast on TV in the USA, and the
results aren't as uniformly good. All of the episodes are
cropped to widescreen, the contrast/color isn't consistent
between episodes, the sound is an annoying 5.1 "surround" mix,
the reused (stock) footage is grainy, THE LONG SLEEP flashbacks
are not in sepia as they should be, the optical effects and
fadeouts don't hold up well in zoomed-in HDTV, and the widescreen
framing choices aren't as good as they could have been...

Marc




     

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> Let's face it, broadcast quality hardly ever is as good as DVD. I love to
> see films and TV programmes in high quality, but I'm not obsessive about
> it.

I think the big issue will be the cropping of the picture... I'm sure
that the Thunderbirds Bluray discs lost a fair number of sales because
of this, and it sure got plenty of online complaints...

Marc

I understand your point about people being too fussy about picture quality,but isn't that the point of the extra expense of Blu-Ray discs?
 
Jeff

--- On Fri, 2/12/10, Brian Serridge <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Brian Serridge <[hidden email]>
Subject: Fw: [SHADO] UFO on Bluray
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 10:12 AM


 



Let's face it, broadcast quality hardly ever is as good as DVD. I love to see films and TV programmes in high quality, but I'm not obsessive about it.It annoys me when I visit Blu ray DVD review forums and people start picking holes in the picture quality, sound, etc. Life's too short to be so picky - some people are never satisfied. I remember years ago someone tried an experiment at a hi-fi loudspeaker review. A critic was played a violin piece (while blindfolded) and was asked to compare the sound quality with an identical piece of music. Unknown to the critic, an actual violinist walked into the room and played his instrument. The critic said that the sound quality was not as good as the first piece (which was played through the hi-fi system).

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, 12 February, 2010 15:52:43
Subject: Re: [SHADO] UFO on Bluray

 
> I think "UFO "would scrub up nicely on Blu Ray. After all look how
> brilliant the Carlton boxed sets were!

Yes, in *theory* they could look great on Blu Ray. However, the big
reason the DVDs looked so good was due the talents and attention
given by those who did those film-to-video transfer. UFO has already
been remastered in HDTV and broadcast on TV in the USA, and the
results aren't as uniformly good. All of the episodes are
cropped to widescreen, the contrast/color isn't consistent
between episodes, the sound is an annoying 5.1 "surround" mix,
the reused (stock) footage is grainy, THE LONG SLEEP flashbacks
are not in sepia as they should be, the optical effects and
fadeouts don't hold up well in zoomed-in HDTV, and the widescreen
framing choices aren't as good as they could have been...

Marc

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> I understand your point about people being too fussy about picture
> quality, but isn't that the point of the extra expense of Blu-Ray discs?

I would think so... otherwise why not just skip the Bluray disc and just
watch the perfectly-fine DVDs?

Marc

--- In [hidden email], Jeffrey Nelson <1shado1@...> wrote:
>
> I understand your point about people being too fussy about picture quality, but isn't that the point of the extra expense of Blu-Ray discs?

> Jeff

No Jeff,
The point of the extra expense is that mugs out there will spend a fortune buying the same thing three times. Once as VHS, once as DVD and now as a Blu-Ray. The manufacturers want to invest as little as possible and resell the same old tat as much as they can. The fact that Carlton still haven't managed to repackage the UFO DVDs into a single collection proves they can flog it for way over the price of comparable TV shows. (At least the Australian's got it right.)

Oh well. Who's interested in the sold-state chip version when it comes out?;o)

Rob

OK, think I get it now, lol.  So Carleton has never had the UFO DVDs as a single collection?  Wow, I had no idea.  Apparently A&E got it right here in the States, same as Australia.  Being one of the folksyou are talking about (in a way), even though I already had a set of UFO on DVD (the two 4 disc sets by A&E), when I saw I could purchase the 'Megaset'  for less than $30US a few months ago, including shipping, I scarfed them up.  Have left them sealed, for 'posterity', lol.  : )
 
Jeff

--- On Sat, 2/13/10, Rob <[hidden email]> wrote:


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Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 9:21 AM


 





--- In SHADO@yahoogroups. com, Jeffrey Nelson <1shado1@... > wrote:
>
> I understand your point about people being too fussy about picture quality, but isn't that the point of the extra expense of Blu-Ray discs?

> Jeff

No Jeff,
The point of the extra expense is that mugs out there will spend a fortune buying the same thing three times. Once as VHS, once as DVD and now as a Blu-Ray. The manufacturers want to invest as little as possible and resell the same old tat as much as they can. The fact that Carlton still haven't managed to repackage the UFO DVDs into a single collection proves they can flog it for way over the price of comparable TV shows. (At least the Australian's got it right.)

Oh well. Who's interested in the sold-state chip version when it comes out?;o)

Rob








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I can see that nobody is mentioning UFO on Laserdiscs that cost a fortune...
: )
Ciao all,
Branko
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--- In [hidden email], Jeffrey Nelson <1shado1@...> wrote:

>

> I understand your point about people being too fussy about picture quality, but isn't that the point of the extra expense of Blu-Ray discs?



> Jeff



No Jeff,

The point of the extra expense is that mugs out there will spend a fortune buying the same thing three times. Once as VHS, once as DVD and now as a Blu-Ray. The manufacturers want to invest as little as possible and resell the same old tat as much as they can. The fact that Carlton still haven't managed to repackage the UFO DVDs into a single collection proves they can flog it for way over the price of comparable TV shows. (At least the Australian's got it right.)



Oh well. Who's interested in the sold-state chip version when it comes out?;o)



Rob






   
     

   
   






       
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Lol.  That's probably because about 6 people own them.  : )  Unfortunately I never did back when I was into laserdisc.  : (
 
Jeff

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Subject: RE: [SHADO] UFO on Bluray
To: "UFO" <[hidden email]>
Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 1:34 PM



I can see that nobody is mentioning UFO on Laserdiscs that cost a fortune...
: )
Ciao all,
Branko
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--- In [hidden email], Jeffrey Nelson <1shado1@...> wrote:

>

> I understand your point about people being too fussy about picture quality, but isn't that the point of the extra expense of Blu-Ray discs?



> Jeff



No Jeff,

The point of the extra expense is that mugs out there will spend a fortune buying the same thing three times. Once as VHS, once as DVD and now as a Blu-Ray. The manufacturers want to invest as little as possible and  resellthe same old tat as much as they can. The fact that Carlton still haven't managed to repackage the UFO DVDs into a single collection proves they can flog it for way over the price of comparable TV shows. (At least the Australian's got it right.)



Oh well. Who's interested in the sold-state chip version when it comes out?;o)



Rob






   
     

   
   






                            
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was very hard to get, once I had my LD player.

Bruce
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To: "UFO" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] UFO on Bluray

Dear Jeff,
I think it was very fortunate for you... If you did, you would have a pile of LD's that cost a fortune and now are just gathering dust (occupying a lot of space), being vastly inferior in picture quality compared to DVD's that cost the fraction of their price...

All the best,
Branko

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Lol. That's probably because about 6 people own them. : ) Unfortunately I never did back when I was into laserdisc. : (

 

Jeff



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From: Branko Vekic <[hidden email]>

Subject: RE: [SHADO] UFO on Bluray

To: "UFO" <[hidden email]>

Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 1:34 PM



I can see that nobody is mentioning UFO on Laserdiscs that cost a fortune...

: )

Ciao all,

Branko

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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:21:58 +0000

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> I understand your point about people being too fussy about picture quality, but isn't that the point of the extra expense of Blu-Ray discs?



> Jeff



No Jeff,



The point of the extra expense is that mugs out there will spend a fortune buying the same thing three times. Once as VHS, once as DVD and now as a Blu-Ray. The manufacturers want to invest as little as possible and resell the same old tat as much as they can. The fact that Carlton still haven't managed to repackage the UFO DVDs into a single collection proves they can flog it for way over the price of comparable TV shows. (At least the Australian's got it right.)



Oh well. Who's interested in the sold-state chip version when it comes out?;o)



Rob



   

     



   

   



 

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Well to be honest Branko, I don't think I even knew they WERE available on Laserdisc "back in the day".  If I had, I surely would have found a wayto get them.  You're probably right that it is a good thing in the long run that I missed out on them.  Would still be cool to have the jacket artwork, though (if it was any good).  : )
 
Jeff

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Subject: RE: [SHADO] UFO on Bluray
To: "UFO" <[hidden email]>
Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 8:53 AM



Dear Jeff,
I think it was very fortunate for you... If you did, you would have a pile of LD's that cost a fortune and now are just gathering dust (occupying a lot of space), being vastly inferior in picture quality compared to DVD's that cost the fraction of their price...

All the best,
Branko

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      Lol.  That's probably because about 6 people own them.  : )  Unfortunately I never did back when I was into laserdisc.  : (



Jeff



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Subject: RE: [SHADO] UFO on Bluray

To: "UFO" <[hidden email]>

Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 1:34 PM



I can see that nobody is mentioning UFO on Laserdiscs that cost a fortune...

: )

Ciao all,

Branko

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--- In [hidden email], Jeffrey Nelson <1shado1@...> wrote:



>



> I understand your point about people being too fussy about picture quality, but isn't that the point of the extra expense of Blu-Ray discs?



> Jeff



No Jeff,



The point of the extra expense is that mugs out there will spend a fortune buying the same thing three times. Once as VHS, once as DVD and now as a Blu-Ray. The manufacturers want to invest as little as possible and  resellthe same old tat as much as they can. The fact that Carlton still haven't managed to repackage the UFO DVDs into a single collection proves they can flog it for way over the price of comparable TV shows. (At least the Australian's got it right.)



Oh well. Who's interested in the sold-state chip version when it comes out?;o)



Rob



   

     



   

   



                             

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Jeff,
As with everything else concerning UFO, you can check the artwork on Marc'ssite:

http://ufoseries.com/videos/index.html

All the best,
Branko


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Well to be honest Branko, I don't think I even knew they WERE available on Laserdisc "back in the day". If I had, I surely would have found a way to get them. You're probably right that it is a good thing in the long run that I missed out on them. Would still be cool to have the jacket artwork, though (if it was any good). : )

 

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Well, not for EVERYTHING UFO, but almost.  : )   Thanks Branko, will check it out!!
 
Jeff

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Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 9:39 AM



Jeff,
As with everything else concerning UFO, you can check the artwork on Marc'ssite:

http://ufoseries.com/videos/index.html

All the best,
Branko


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      Well to be honest Branko, I don't think I even knew they WERE available on Laserdisc "back in the day".  If I had, I surely would have found a way to get them.  You're probably right that it is a good thing in the long run that I missed out on them.  Would still be cool to have the jacket artwork, though (if it was any good).  : )



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> I think it was very fortunate for you... If you did, you would have a
> pile of LD's that cost a fortune and now are just gathering dust
> (occupying a lot of space), being vastly inferior in picture quality
> compared to DVD's that cost the fraction of their price...

Yes, but they have nice booklets... :-)

Also, if someone wants to get those laserdiscs today, all they need to
do is wait for them to appear on eBay, and pay very, very little money
for them (now).

Marc

I am not getting rid of my LD's yet :) Tried my player, its a dual side player, but only works on one side now, but it still works. Takes up as much space as a record album, but who is getting rid of theirs? :)

Bruce
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From: Marc Martin
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Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] UFO on Bluray



> I think it was very fortunate for you... If you did, you would have a
> pile of LD's that cost a fortune and now are just gathering dust
> (occupying a lot of space), being vastly inferior in picture quality
> compared to DVD's that cost the fraction of their price...

Yes, but they have nice booklets... :-)

Also, if someone wants to get those laserdiscs today, all they need to
do is wait for them to appear on eBay, and pay very, very little money
for them (now).

Marc





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Man, that's one thin LD player!  ; )
 
Jeff

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I am not getting rid of my LD's yet :) Tried my player, its a dual side player, but only works on one side now, but it still works. Takes up as much space as a record album, but who is getting rid of theirs? :)

Bruce
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From: Marc Martin
To: SHADO@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: [SHADO] UFO on Bluray

> I think it was very fortunate for you... If you did, you would have a
> pile of LD's that cost a fortune and now are just gathering dust
> (occupying a lot of space), being vastly inferior in picture quality
> compared to DVD's that cost the fraction of their price...

Yes, but they have nice booklets... :-)

Also, if someone wants to get those laserdiscs today, all they need to
do is wait for them to appear on eBay, and pay very, very little money
for them (now).

Marc

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No rumours about upcoming Bluray releases, US, UK, Japan, Australia etc?

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> No rumours about upcoming Bluray releases, US, UK, Japan, Australia etc?

I have not heard anything about UFO on Bluray anywhere...

Marc