Fw: [SHADO] Viewmaster scans

This is kind of cool :)  Will explain what I did.

This is a Windows 7 computer.  The only reason I mention that is because there is a built in software called Snipping tool.  Basically any image you see on your screen, can be easily saved to a jpeg file by highlighting a square box.  So I saved a left and right jpg file from the link below.  Then I used this program called SteroPhoto Maker. As I am sure just about everyone knows how original MSDOS suffix extensions, what they are all about.  a 3d graphic image is saved as a .MPO type file.  So I used the program to merge both jpg files to create a mpo type file.

3D cameras are starting to come out to the masses.  I have a Nintendo 3DS portable video game player, just because of the 3d camera (like men buying a certain mens magazine for the articles ;)  There is also a cell phone that takes 3d images.

So I took the mpo file, loaded it onto the memory card for the 3ds (had to change the file name and place it in the appropriate directory)  Turned it on.. and wow.. 3D :)  

It looks like they are paper cutouts of people just standing up in a room :)  But you do see depth.

Bruce


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From: Bruce Sherman
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Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Viewmaster scans

 
take it to the next step??

Were the images 3d?? If so, there is software that merges it and if you use red/green (?) glasses, you can see the image in 3d looking at one image.

Bruce
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From: Marc Martin
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Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Viewmaster scans

> Also, I would have thought in this
> day and age, better scans could have been made from the viewmaster
> photos -- I think the scans I made from mine in the 1990's are
> higher quality than this, and I'm sure I could make even better
> scans if I were to redo this today...

Okay, I just verified this with a quick test scan.

On my UFO website, I made this viewmaster scan a long time ago
(the late 1990's?):

http://ufoseries.com/3d/04b.jpg

Using current technology, here is a new scan:

http://ufoseries.com/temp/viewmasterTest.jpg

Much better.

Marc

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The tech for doing 3D now is to use polarized filters where one is turned 90
degrees from the other for the two eyes.  It's still a fool the eye trick that
will give you a headache after a long time viewing this version of 3D images. 
This has been what has killed the 3D fad each time it has come out.
    James K.




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From: Bruce Sherman <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sat, November 26, 2011 7:35:59 PM
Subject: Fw: [SHADO] Viewmaster scans

 

This is kind of cool :) Will explain what I did.

This is a Windows 7 computer. The only reason I mention that is because there is
a built in software called Snipping tool. Basically any image you see on your
screen, can be easily saved to a jpeg file by highlighting a square box. So I
saved a left and right jpg file from the link below. Then I used this program
called SteroPhoto Maker. As I am sure just about everyone knows how original
MSDOS suffix extensions, what they are all about. a 3d graphic image is saved as
a .MPO type file. So I used the program to merge both jpg files to create a mpo
type file.

3D cameras are starting to come out to the masses. I have a Nintendo 3DS
portable video game player, just because of the 3d camera (like men buying a
certain mens magazine for the articles ;) There is also a cell phone that takes
3d images.

So I took the mpo file, loaded it onto the memory card for the 3ds (had to
change the file name and place it in the appropriate directory) Turned it on..
and wow.. 3D :)


It looks like they are paper cutouts of people just standing up in a room :) But
you do see depth.

Bruce

----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Sherman
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Viewmaster scans

take it to the next step??

Were the images 3d?? If so, there is software that merges it and if you use
red/green (?) glasses, you can see the image in 3d looking at one image.

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Martin
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Viewmaster scans

> Also, I would have thought in this
> day and age, better scans could have been made from the viewmaster
> photos -- I think the scans I made from mine in the 1990's are
> higher quality than this, and I'm sure I could make even better
> scans if I were to redo this today...

Okay, I just verified this with a quick test scan.

On my UFO website, I made this viewmaster scan a long time ago
(the late 1990's?):

http://ufoseries.com/3d/04b.jpg

Using current technology, here is a new scan:

http://ufoseries.com/temp/viewmasterTest.jpg

Much better.

Marc

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> So I took the mpo file, loaded it onto the memory card for the 3ds
> (had to change the file name and place it in the appropriate directory)
> Turned it on.. and wow.. 3D :)  

Cool -- did you have to wear special glasses to the see the 3-D?

> It looks like they are paper cutouts of people just standing
> up in a room :)  

Yes, it looks that way in the Viewmaster too... but they say
that these were real 3-D photos taken on the set...

Marc

no glasses... this is a small screen on a portable video game player.  Look at Nintendo 3DS hand held player.

I think the issue with this technology is you need to be in a certain spot. move from that spot.. and you lose the 3d effect.

I am a little bit of a camera buff.  When going on vacation to Disneyworld, I take with me about 5 cameras, for different conditions.  The 3D camera is a new toy.  I say within another year, 3d cameras will become more available in the same price range as current digital cameras.  The 3ds is about $170 now in the us.  Non 3d cameras with limited features like the 3DS, but better quality images is about $70


Bruce

From: Marc Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 10:45 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Fw: [SHADO] Viewmaster scans

 
> So I took the mpo file, loaded it onto the memory card for the 3ds
> (had to change the file name and place it in the appropriate directory)
> Turned it on.. and wow.. 3D :)

Cool -- did you have to wear special glasses to the see the 3-D?

> It looks like they are paper cutouts of people just standing
> up in a room :)

Yes, it looks that way in the Viewmaster too... but they say
that these were real 3-D photos taken on the set...

Marc




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Is it only me, or the depth priorities on these viewmaster pics are bit off (eg. stars in spacewalk scenes look closer than anything else in the pics, light sources on the Moonbase scenes look closer than Straker who should be in the foreground, etc.)?
All the best,
Branko
 



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Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 23:13:43 -0500
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Viewmaster scans


 



no glasses... this is a small screen on a portable video game player. Look at Nintendo 3DS hand held player.

I think the issue with this technology is you need to be in a certain spot. move from that spot.. and you lose the 3d effect.

I am a little bit of a camera buff. When going on vacation to Disneyworld, I take with me about 5 cameras, for different conditions. The 3D camera is a new toy. I say within another year, 3d cameras will become more available in the same price range as current digital cameras. The 3ds is about $170 now in the us. Non 3d cameras with limited features like the 3DS, but better quality images is about $70

Bruce

From: Marc Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 10:45 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Fw: [SHADO] Viewmaster scans

> So I took the mpo file, loaded it onto the memory card for the 3ds
> (had to change the file name and place it in the appropriate directory)
> Turned it on.. and wow.. 3D :)

Cool -- did you have to wear special glasses to the see the 3-D?

> It looks like they are paper cutouts of people just standing
> up in a room :)

Yes, it looks that way in the Viewmaster too... but they say
that these were real 3-D photos taken on the set...

Marc

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> Is it only me, or the depth priorities on these viewmaster pics are bit off
> (eg. stars in spacewalk scenes look closer than anything else in the pics,
> light sources on the Moonbase scenes look closer than Straker who should
> be in the foreground, etc.)?

Hmm, they look okay to me (e.g., stars in the background).  How are you viewing
them?

Marc

Just a note on 3d - some people's brains simply don't integrate the images
well and so the z-index ends up reversed. (My DH is one. We don't go to 3d
movies because things simply layer wrong for him and then he gets a massive
headache.)

 

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Martin
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 3:26 PM
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Subject: RE: [SHADO] Viewmaster scans

 

 

> Is it only me, or the depth priorities on these viewmaster pics are bit
off
> (eg. stars in spacewalk scenes look closer than anything else in the pics,

> light sources on the Moonbase scenes look closer than Straker who should
> be in the foreground, etc.)?

Hmm, they look okay to me (e.g., stars in the background). How are you
viewing
them?

Marc





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I have learned the thechnique of viewing 3D pictures without any help in an old issue of "Starlog". I should check the viewmaster set to see if there is any difference. BTW, my viewmaster set has different booklet than the one on your site.

All the best,
Branko

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      > Is it only me, or the depth priorities on these viewmaster pics are bit off

> (eg. stars in spacewalk scenes look closer than anything else in the pics,

> light sources on the Moonbase scenes look closer than Straker who should

> be in the foreground, etc.)?



Hmm, they look okay to me (e.g., stars in the background).  How are you viewing

them?



Marc



   
     

   
   






       

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> BTW, my viewmaster set has different booklet than the one on your site.

Yes, I've got the American and German versions of the Viewmaster packaging
on my website.  I'm not sure how many different versions there are out there?

Marc

I can scan mine and send you the scans, if you like. It looks interesting.

All the best,
Branko

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      > BTW, my viewmaster set has different booklet than the one on your site.



Yes, I've got the American and German versions of the Viewmaster packaging

on my website.  I'm not sure how many different versions there are out there?



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> I can scan mine and send you the scans, if you like. It looks interesting.

And thanks to Branko, here are pictures of the UK UFO Viewmaster booklet
(same photos as the German Viewmaster, but quite different from the US
booklet):

  http://ufoseries.com/miscCollectibles/uViewBook1.jpg
  http://ufoseries.com/miscCollectibles/uViewBook1.jpg
  http://ufoseries.com/miscCollectibles/uViewBook1.jpg
  http://ufoseries.com/miscCollectibles/uViewBook1.jpg

Hi,

Er, slight problem with your links as all the uViewBook numbers are the same (1), but if you change the number in the links between 1 and 8 you can view all 8 pages.

Thanks ever so for these, I did have a complete original set of "Close Up" but it got lost over the years.

G

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Or, to make it easier for all concerned:

http://s3.silent-tower.org/ufobook.html

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Oh why couldn't the future have been like this...? (sigh)



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Or, to make it easier for all concerned:

http://s3.silent-tower.org/ufobook.html

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> Or, to make it easier for all concerned:
>
> http://s3.silent-tower.org/ufobook.html

Thanks!  Yes, my 1990's-style "link to each photograph" really does
need to be replaced with something more modern...

Marc