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Someone asked me a while back to comment on the George Sewell commentary on the Australian UFO DVD set after I've heard it. Well, I've now heard it. :-) It is nice to hear George talking about UFO for an hour, and it's nice to hear that he sounded well and in good spirits when this was recorded. Although this is supposedly a commentary track for the episode "ESP", there is actually very little time spent actually talking about this episode, which I actually think is a good thing, because it's more interesting (I think) to hear George discuss his memories of UFO in general. This commentary is a bit different than the other commentaries, in that it has a moderator/interviewer asking questions of George (Jaz Wiseman). While I don't think there is anything particularly wrong with this sort of format, I found myself frustrated by the questions that Jaz asked George. Specifically, he asked several questions which (to me) seemed obvious that George would not have known the answer to, and of course, George didn't! (for example, how could George Sewell comment on working with the actress who played Croxley's wife, when he never had any scenes with her? Or how could he comment on the UFO episodes at Pinewood or even Space:1999, which he never worked on?) I find this sort of problem crops up frequently in fandom -- certainly when I interviewed Antonia Ellis at the San Diego Comic Con, when we started taking questions from the audience, most of the questions were the sorts of things that *I* knew the answer to, but Antonia certainly didn't. Oh well, I guess it might be good for fans to realize what actors do and don't know... I on the other hand found it a waste, and certainly could have thought of better questions to ask. So far, my favorite UFO commentaries have the ones produced for A&E (Mike Billington/Alan Perry for KILL STRAKER, Wanda Ventham/Sylvia Anderson for TIMELASH), followed by Gerry Anderson's commentary for IDENTIFIED. I'd say that the worst commentary (and an unfortunate case of bad producing) was Ed Bishop's commentary for SUB-SMASH. I guess I'd rate this George Sewell commentary as possibly being about the same as the Gerry Anderson commentary. That is, it could have been better, but it's certainly not bad. This new UFO DVD set also has a commentary for PSYCHOBOMBS from Deborah Grant (moderated by Jonathan Wood). I haven't had the time to listen to this all the way through, but in this, they are definitely focusing on the episode, and the commentary has a certain charm that is lacking in the Jaz Wiseman/George Sewell commentary (this could be due to the female presence, as the Wanda/Sylvia commentary has a charm to it as well). Also, I had a chance to look at a few of the photo galleries -- this set obviously wins the award for best UFO photo galleries for all of the DVD releases, which previously I thought belonged to the Carlton DVDs. However, the Carlton galleries didn't have many photos, and the photos that it did have took up only a quarter of the screen. The Australian galleries have lots of photos, and they take up the whole screen. However, there is a problem with consistency -- in using every photo they could find, there are good quality photos, and not-so-good quality photos. And a lot of the photos are simply lifted from my UFO website (which is fine by me -- they asked if this was okay with me before they did it). Also, the clip of Sylvia Anderson being interviewed with clips from Antonia Ellis (Tomorrow Today) is higher quality than what I had for making the movie clip on the website. It has no time code overlayed, and the colors and contrast is better. Well, that's my report for now... Marc |
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> there is actually very little time spent actually talking
> about this episode, which I actually think is a good thing Sorry about that... three uses of "actually" in one sentence is a bit much! :-) I can also add that the packaging is quite nice -- the pictures on my website don't really do it justice (and these will be replaced in time). The menus are rather simple -- no fancy computer graphics here, so the Italian UFO DVDs remain the set with the best menu computer graphics. Another new extra is a comparison between the old UFO masters and the new 2002 remastering. They go back and forth comparing what I guess must have been the laserdisc masters (?) with the new set, and of course the new ones look much better. There are also some comparisons with masters from 2000, which I think I'll have to watch again to understand/appreciate. One thing I noted was that the episode picture quality seemed a bit lackluster... not the "jaw-dropping" quality I recall from the Carlton and A&E sets. But I'll have to take a closer look at this. Don't get me wrong -- they still look good and they are from the same set of masters. I'm thinking that the MPEG-2 encoding may not be as good, possibly due to too many hours of material being squeezed into one disc (I mean really, 4 hours of material on a disc is going to cause the image quality to suffer a bit). So that's one possible drawback of having so many extra features... (e.g., the UFO Documentary is an hour, INVASION:UFO is 90 minutes, etc., and this is all being squeezed onto the same 8 discs that previous sets used) Marc |
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From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: [SHADO] George Sewell commentary > > So far, my favorite UFO commentaries have the ones produced > for A&E (Mike Billington/Alan Perry for KILL STRAKER, > Wanda Ventham/Sylvia Anderson for TIMELASH), followed by > Gerry Anderson's commentary for IDENTIFIED. I'd say that > the worst commentary (and an unfortunate case of bad > producing) was Ed Bishop's commentary for SUB-SMASH. > I guess I'd rate this George Sewell commentary as > possibly being about the same as the Gerry Anderson > commentary. That is, it could have been better, but > it's certainly not bad. I agree with you 100%, Marc. The Umbrella DVD set was worth the price just for the Billington/Perry commentary alone - not only did they bounce off each other very well indeed, but each had plenty to say and considerable recall about the series. They were also funny. Obviously anyone who had the A+E set won't bve hearing anything new here, but for those like me who only had the Carlton UFO set, there is much here to enjoy. I haven't as yet heard the Ventham/Anderson commentary. I've never been sure why Gerry Anderson agrees to do commentaries since he doesn't seem at all comfortable talking about his programmes - consequently they are a bit dull. Also he doesn't ever seem to tell us anything new. The Ed Bishop commentary was a major disappointment when I first heard it a few years back - anyone expecting to hear Ed as he is when he appears at conventions etc would have been taken aback, since his comments are few and far between. I am sorry to say (because I've heard the commentaries Jaz has moderated on other Umbrella sets and thought them superlative) that the George Sewell commentary was also a little lacklustre. George comes over as a very nice guy but the fact remains - and its quite obvious - that after 35 years his recall of the series is actually not that good at all. And I suspect that Jaz also isn't that familiar with the series - consequently some of the questioning was alittle strange. When he asked George to comment on the actress who played John Stratton's wife in ESP - really, little more than a bit part - I was frankly amazed, and I wasn't at all surprised that George could not respond. Jaz seemed to be struggling a little to think of things to ask...... |
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Marc Martin wrote:
> Hi all, > > Someone asked me a while back to comment on the George Sewell > commentary on the Australian UFO DVD set after I've heard it. > Well, I've now heard it. :-) There exists software you can use to download the contents of a group's YahooGroups posts. By doing this, the contents can be then uploaded to a website and therefore be searchable by, say, Google. There's a lot of content posted here (this list) but it sits behind Yahoo's wall, so much discussion is not indexed. The trick is in splitting one giant text file into reasonably-sized parts and converting to HTML. Let me know if you want a link to it. I don't have it handy but can find it. Paul |
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Previously I had mentioned something about the video quality on this new DVD release might not being as good as it was on the earlier releases. I think this might simply be a case of my not having the best setup for watching PAL videos. And even in watching it on my computer, my newer LCD monitor is probably not as satisfying as my older Trinitron monitor was. Also I note a large difference in picture quality when using two different software DVD players -- WinDVD being much better than VLC. I also looked at the episode file sizes for a couple volumes. For the discs which feature 3 episode, the episodes are 2200 - 2400 MB in size. For the discs which feature 4 episodes, the episodes are 1800 MB in size. This is no worse than the Carlton discs. And finally, I think perhaps my standards have been raised, now that we are in the age of HDTV, which of course looks better than even the best DVDs. By the way, one annoying thing about these discs is that the episode titles are not printed on the disc label (what were they thinking?!) Marc |
In a message dated 9/21/2007 2:12:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes: By the way, one annoying thing about these discs is that the episode titles are not printed on the disc label (what were they thinking?!) Marc It could be worse. Some of the TV show video's are now on double sided disks. The quality is better than VHS, but not by much. Wendy ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> It could be worse. Some of the TV show video's are now on double sided
> disks. The quality is better than VHS, but not by much. Yes, I realize that most TV shows don't look perfect on DVD either... I just want UFO to look as good as possible! Although to do that, I'd think that you'd have to limit each disc to 2 episodes, and frankly, most people (other than myself) probably wouldn't notice any improvement in quality anyway! Marc |
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Which TV shows have you noticed on double-sided discs with poor picture quality? I DESPISE double-sided discs (VTTBOTS and original BSG, for example)!
Jeff [hidden email] wrote: In a message dated 9/21/2007 2:12:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: By the way, one annoying thing about these discs is that the episode titles are not printed on the disc label (what were they thinking?!) Marc It could be worse. Some of the TV show video's are now on double sided disks. The quality is better than VHS, but not by much. Wendy ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 9/21/2007 10:15:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: Yes, I realize that most TV shows don't look perfect on DVD either... I just want UFO to look as good as possible! Although to do that, I'd think that you'd have to limit each disc to 2 episodes, and frankly, most people (other than myself) probably wouldn't notice any improvement in quality anyway! HA! I think many in this group would notice the difference right away. But we allowed to dream anyway. The only regret I have is that I didn't know about the Australian version six months ago when I bought my Carrolton set. Wendy ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 9/22/2007 12:30:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: Which TV shows have you noticed on double-sided discs with poor picture quality? I DESPISE double-sided discs (VTTBOTS and original BSG, for example)! Jeff Jeff, You bought me here from the Voyage list, Remember? :-) Marc, you know who top blame now! Honestly, those DVD's are crap. But I doubt they will ever be released in a better form. Wendy ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I was dreading compression artefacts all along... BTW, Carlton UFO set looks more than great upscaled with updated PS3 on 52" 1080p TV. I even took a few shots if anybody's interested... All the best, Branko To: [hidden email]: [hidden email]: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:11:19 -0700Subject: Re: [SHADO] Re: Australian UFO DVD > It could be worse. Some of the TV show video's are now on double sided > disks. The quality is better than VHS, but not by much.Yes, I realize that most TV shows don't look perfect on DVD either...I just want UFO to look as good as possible! Although to do that,I'd think that you'd have to limit each disc to 2 episodes, andfrankly, most people (other than myself) probably wouldn't noticeany improvement in quality anyway!Marc _________________________________________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Guilty as charged, LOL! But I think it's great to have you here. : )
I do remember the discussion of double-sided discs from the VTTBOTS group. I just didn't recall specifically which other series were on double-sided discs that look terrible. Early senility, I guess. Jeff [hidden email] wrote: In a message dated 9/22/2007 12:30:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: Which TV shows have you noticed on double-sided discs with poor picture quality? I DESPISE double-sided discs (VTTBOTS and original BSG, for example)! Jeff Jeff, You bought me here from the Voyage list, Remember? :-) Marc, you know who top blame now! Honestly, those DVD's are crap. But I doubt they will ever be released in a better form. Wendy ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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That was me. I appreciate the time taken to provide your analysis. It's as close as I'll probably ever come to hearing it. Thanks again, Marc!
Jeff Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi all, Someone asked me a while back to comment on the George Sewell commentary on the Australian UFO DVD set after I've heard it. Well, I've now heard it. :-) It is nice to hear George talking about UFO for an hour, and it's nice to hear that he sounded well and in good spirits when this was recorded. Although this is supposedly a commentary track for the episode "ESP", there is actually very little time spent actually talking about this episode, which I actually think is a good thing, because it's more interesting (I think) to hear George discuss his memories of UFO in general. This commentary is a bit different than the other commentaries, in that it has a moderator/interviewer asking questions of George (Jaz Wiseman). While I don't think there is anything particularly wrong with this sort of format, I found myself frustrated by the questions that Jaz asked George. Specifically, he asked several questions which (to me) seemed obvious that George would not have known the answer to, and of course, George didn't! (for example, how could George Sewell comment on working with the actress who played Croxley's wife, when he never had any scenes with her? Or how could he comment on the UFO episodes at Pinewood or even Space:1999, which he never worked on?) I find this sort of problem crops up frequently in fandom -- certainly when I interviewed Antonia Ellis at the San Diego Comic Con, when we started taking questions from the audience, most of the questions were the sorts of things that *I* knew the answer to, but Antonia certainly didn't. Oh well, I guess it might be good for fans to realize what actors do and don't know... I on the other hand found it a waste, and certainly could have thought of better questions to ask. So far, my favorite UFO commentaries have the ones produced for A&E (Mike Billington/Alan Perry for KILL STRAKER, Wanda Ventham/Sylvia Anderson for TIMELASH), followed by Gerry Anderson's commentary for IDENTIFIED. I'd say that the worst commentary (and an unfortunate case of bad producing) was Ed Bishop's commentary for SUB-SMASH. I guess I'd rate this George Sewell commentary as possibly being about the same as the Gerry Anderson commentary. That is, it could have been better, but it's certainly not bad. This new UFO DVD set also has a commentary for PSYCHOBOMBS from Deborah Grant (moderated by Jonathan Wood). I haven't had the time to listen to this all the way through, but in this, they are definitely focusing on the episode, and the commentary has a certain charm that is lacking in the Jaz Wiseman/George Sewell commentary (this could be due to the female presence, as the Wanda/Sylvia commentary has a charm to it as well). Also, I had a chance to look at a few of the photo galleries -- this set obviously wins the award for best UFO photo galleries for all of the DVD releases, which previously I thought belonged to the Carlton DVDs. However, the Carlton galleries didn't have many photos, and the photos that it did have took up only a quarter of the screen. The Australian galleries have lots of photos, and they take up the whole screen. However, there is a problem with consistency -- in using every photo they could find, there are good quality photos, and not-so-good quality photos. And a lot of the photos are simply lifted from my UFO website (which is fine by me -- they asked if this was okay with me before they did it). Also, the clip of Sylvia Anderson being interviewed with clips from Antonia Ellis (Tomorrow Today) is higher quality than what I had for making the movie clip on the website. It has no time code overlayed, and the colors and contrast is better. Well, that's my report for now... Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> That was me. I appreciate the time taken to provide your analysis. It's
> as close as I'll probably ever come to hearing it. Thanks again, Marc! Sure... and the other comment about George being very complimentary about everyone and everyone is true as well... although he wasn't complimentary about the clothes that he had to wear in the story (as he didn't like wool turtleneck shirts). Also, I just read a 6-page PDF file that was included on the discs. This gives details on the remastering process from film to video, and was written by Jonathan Wood. I found this interesting reading, and am surprised that it took this long for this article to surface (since the remastering was done many years ago). They really went to a lot of effort in making these video remasters look as good as possible, and of course this effort does indeed show! Marc |
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From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [SHADO] George Sewell commentary > Also, I just read a 6-page PDF file that was included on the discs. > This gives details on the remastering process from film to video, > and was written by Jonathan Wood. I found this interesting reading, > and am surprised that it took this long for this article to surface > (since the remastering was done many years ago). They really > went to a lot of effort in making these video remasters look > as good as possible, and of course this effort does indeed show! Yes, I was going to check my Carlton discs to see if any sort of article had been included with that set, because I couldn't remember it. Clearly there wasn't, although Jonathan did write one for Network's Space:1999 Year 1 set. Anyway the UFO article was very interesting - although to be honest, even though Jonathan was trying to keep it all in layman's terms, I still found some of it baffling!. It shows what a huge amount of painstaking work went into the restoration. Of course, the fact that Jonathan was/is a fan to start with can only have helped the entire project, along with the skills of his team of course. I think the enthusiasm shows :-) Simon |
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