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I just wanted to mention that I started this list on 24 August 1994, so yesterday was our 11th year anniversary! Hard to believe that we've been able to maintain a UFO discussion group that long! Originally this list was called "FAB-UFO", and over the years we changed mailing list hosts a few times. We've been here on Yahoo Groups since 2000. Happy anniversary to us! Marc P.S. Here is the very first message posted to the list: =========================================================================== Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 23:48:49 BST From: [hidden email] Subject: UFO -- Great Show! Hello out there! My name is Sashi German and I have just joined this List. I'm hailing from Philadelphia, PA (USA) where I see UFO once a week on the Sci-Fi cable channel (badly edited I'm told). Someone on the Space:1999 mailist gave this List address out and I'm glad I found it. I have become a big fan of UFO since catching it for the first time a few months back. I only wish this show had gone past 1 season! Regards, Sashi german [hidden email] |
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Congratulations! I feel like it was just yesterday that people were
congratulating you on the 10th anniversary. Thanks for all of your hard work and dedication Marc! Lorraine and Charlie Marc Martin wrote: > Hi all, > > I just wanted to mention that I started this list on > 24 August 1994, so yesterday was our 11th year > anniversary! Hard to believe that we've been able to > maintain a UFO discussion group that long! |
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That's good news. Congratulations to everybody.
Julia Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to mention that I started this list on 24 August 1994, so yesterday was our 11th year anniversary! Hard to believe that we've been able to maintain a UFO discussion group that long! |
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Belated congrats on this momentous occasion. Another significant anniversary looms - the 35th anniversary of the first showing of this series. AFAIK only three regions actually showed "Identified" simultaneously, one of them being my local region Tyne-Tees, I can't at present remember who the other two are, but a quick look in the UFO Book that was brought out a couple of years ago will soon put that right.
Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:Hi all, I just wanted to mention that I started this list on 24 August 1994, so yesterday was our 11th year anniversary! Hard to believe that we've been able to maintain a UFO discussion group that long! Originally this list was called "FAB-UFO", and over the years we changed mailing list hosts a few times. We've been here on Yahoo Groups since 2000. Happy anniversary to us! Marc --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> yesterday was our 11th year anniversary!
Happy Anniversary, Marc! I discovered the group in 1997 and enjoyed it very much since! You did (and still do) a great job as moderator of this (and the previous) group! (Let's) Go ahead! Christian |
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> P.S. Here is the very first message posted to the list: > Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 23:48:49 BST > From: sashi@j... > Subject: UFO -- Great Show! > > Hello out there! > > My name is Sashi German and I have just joined this List. > I'm hailing from Philadelphia, PA (USA) where I see UFO > once a week on the Sci-Fi cable channel (badly edited I'm told). > > Someone on the Space:1999 mailist gave this List address out > and I'm glad I found it. I have become a big fan of UFO since > catching it for the first time a few months back. I only wish > this show had gone past 1 season! Congratulations! Is having a list last this long uncommon? I also wondered if this first "post-ee" is still a member? I also wonder if the posts sent from this date to the current list archive start are still out there in cyberspace somewhere? Some other lists have got archives going back to the mid-nineties. Just curious! Here's to the next eleven years....... Sarah (UK) |
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> Congratulations! Is having a list last this long uncommon? I also
> wondered if this first "post-ee" is still a member? I don't believe that the first post-ee is still a member. > I also wonder if the posts sent from this date to the current list > archive start are still out there in cyberspace somewhere? Some > other lists have got archives going back to the mid-nineties. Just > curious! I've got text files containing the posts from back then, but they aren't online anywhere. I suppose if there is enough interest, I could package them up a zip files and put them on my website... Marc |
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Happy Anniversary to all of us, but especially to you Marc, without your great effort it wouldnt last this long. All the best to all! Branko _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ |
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> 'Ive got text files containing the posts from back then, but they > aren't online anywhere. I suppose if there is enough interest, > I could package them up a zip files and put them on my website... Yes please! I'd definately read them. I know I would have read them at the time, if I'd had internet access. Something to do in the long, cold dark winter evenings. I (think I) have far too much spare time! Something I've contemplated doing that would take time is to collate all the interviews that Ed Bishop gave. Many of the Q&As are more or less the same, but there always seems to be some unique ones. I'd do it as a kind of personal tribute. Ditto Mike Billington and other UFO cast members, where there are interview transcripts available. Might be interesting.... Have a good weekend Sarah (UK) |
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Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 09:06:09 -0000 From: "moonbasegirl" <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: Happy 11th Anniversary to Us! --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote: > 'Ive got text files containing the posts from back then, but they > aren't online anywhere. I suppose if there is enough interest, > I could package them up a zip files and put them on my website... Yes please! I'd definately read them. I know I would have read them at the time, if I'd had internet access. Something to do in the long, cold dark winter evenings. I (think I) have far too much spare time! Something I've contemplated doing that would take time is to collate all the interviews that Ed Bishop gave. Many of the Q&As are more or less the same, but there always seems to be some unique ones. I'd do it as a kind of personal tribute. Ditto Mike Billington and other UFO cast members, where there are interview transcripts available. Might be interesting.... Have a good weekend Sarah (UK) I for one would love to see this! Craig [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Marc and all :)
Just wanted to add my mega congratulations for lasting this long. If we canlast 11 years, we can last another 11... Just fantastic work Marc. When I first joined (can't remember exactly... sometime in the late 1990's I think) I thought I was the only one still holding an interest. It was just fantastic to realise that I wasn't the only one 'out there' still flying the flag. UFO first showed when I was just a lad at primary school (everyone in my class was hooked as much as any new thing running today, maybe more), and it is one of the few things that has been with me, and held my interest since back then - there's something REALLY special about the show,and once it grabs you... you're really hooked. I thought I knew quite a bit about UFO, but on joining this list and Fanderson, I realised I knew very little at all. I remember when just obtaining some new photo at a convention was a real triumph, getting a grainy set of VHS's from a friend at a TV station was a real coup in the early eighties) but the web has really helped to keep the show alive, and put people together who have a common interest. The DVD's will keep the show and concept alive forever. My young nephews are really hooked, now that's the real test of a show after all this time.... Straker, Henderson and Jackson would be really wincing at all the publicity ;) Happy Anniversary to all :) ...and many more to come, and Thanks Marc! Best to all, Griff -----Original Message----- Subject: [SHADO] Happy 11th Anniversary to Us! Hi all, I just wanted to mention that I started this list on 24 August 1994, so yesterday was our 11th year anniversary! Hard to believe that we've been able to maintain a UFO discussion group that long! Originally this list was called "FAB-UFO", and over the years we changed mailing list hosts a few times. We've been here on Yahoo Groups since 2000. Happy anniversary to us! Marc |
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> Yes please! I'd definately read them. I know I would have read them
> at the time, if I'd had internet access. Something to do in the > long, cold dark winter evenings. I (think I) have far too much spare > time! I just looked at my list archives, and they're kind of messy and hard to read, as they are just dumps from my old Eudora e-mail program to text files. I'm wondering if anyone has copies of all the old FAB-UFO digests, which are nicely formatted and easier to read? Or perhaps made a copy of the old HTML archives, which would be even better. I took a look at www.archive.org, which archives old versions of websites, but I see they only have a few of the old FAB-UFO digests. For those of you who'd like to poke around and read what's available there, here's a link: http://web.archive.org/web/20030507171517/www.lists.pipex.com/cgi-bin/digests?list=fab-ufo The first 13 digests are there at least... Marc |
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Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone has copies of all the old FAB-UFO digests, > which are nicely formatted and easier to read? Or perhaps made > a copy of the old HTML archives, which would be even better. > I don't have copies of digests, but I do have all of the list mail since May 1998 .. I could probably write a script to convert it all into HTML and put it up on my webserver sometime. Not today though :D -- Dig It : a forum for Euro Beatles fans - http://beatles.dyndns.org/ |
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> I don't have copies of digests, but I do have all of the list mail
> since May 1998 .. I could probably write a script to convert it all > into HTML and put it up on my webserver sometime. Wow, great! Here are some zipped text files with messages sent to FAB-UFO in 1994, 1995, and 1996. I was cleaning off the headers back then, although my later archives have all sorts of email headers that nobody cares about... http://ufoseries.com/1994.zip http://ufoseries.com/1995.zip http://ufoseries.com/1996.zip Marc |
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Congratulations Marc and everyone who makes SHADO great. I was only 10yrs old when I saw UFO for the first time. Unfortunatly for me I never saw it again until I was 42. All I could remember was the Interceptors one missile, the opening theme, Straker's hair, and Ashay's sashay. LOL.
Griff <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Marc and all :) Just wanted to add my mega congratulations for lasting this long. If we can last 11 years, we can last another 11... Just fantastic work Marc. When I first joined (can't remember exactly... sometime in the late 1990's I think) I thought I was the only one still holding an interest. It was just fantastic to realise that I wasn't the only one 'out there' still flying the flag. UFO first showed when I was just a lad at primary school (everyone in my class was hooked as much as any new thing running today, maybe more), and it is one of the few things that has been with me, and held my interest since back then - there's something REALLY special about the show, and once it grabs you... you're really hooked. I thought I knew quite a bit about UFO, but on joining this list and Fanderson, I realised I knew very little at all. I remember when just obtaining some new photo at a convention was a real triumph, getting a grainy set of VHS's from a friend at a TV station was a real coup in the early eighties) but the web has really helped to keep the show alive, and put people together who have a common interest. The DVD's will keep the show and concept alive forever. My young nephews are really hooked, now that's the real test of a show after all this time.... Straker, Henderson and Jackson would be really wincing at all the publicity ;) Happy Anniversary to all :) ...and many more to come, and Thanks Marc! Best to all, Griff -----Original Message----- Subject: [SHADO] Happy 11th Anniversary to Us! Hi all, I just wanted to mention that I started this list on 24 August 1994, so yesterday was our 11th year anniversary! Hard to believe that we've been able to maintain a UFO discussion group that long! Originally this list was called "FAB-UFO", and over the years we changed mailing list hosts a few times. We've been here on Yahoo Groups since 2000. Happy anniversary to us! Marc Yahoo! Groups Links signature test'; "> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi all :)
As some of you may know, I am a professional technical illustrator, and work mainly in the IT and Aerospace sector. I intend to work on a number of technical illustrations showing many of the craft from UFO (just for fun of course). To help me do this, I am looking for close-up photos of the Interceptor and Missile to show as much detail as possible from the original models. I already have accurate dimensional information. A while back someone on the list had links to a number of photos (from many angles) of one of the original UFO Interceptors taken at a convention. I really need to see as much detail, modelling lines, text, logos, the red stripe detail etc. There is method to my madness in starting with the Interceptor Missile, the reason being that there has been much speculation as to why there was only one missile per Interceptor. Of course the internal design and operation of the Interceptor Missile (and later when I do the Interceptor and others... ideas please) will be complete imagination and supposition, but hopefully to calmyour fears, I do have degrees in Electronic & Computer Engineering, Mechanical Engineering, and also Mathematics, so I am making somewhat educated guesses. I am completely open to ideas from anyone especially our resident rocket engineer ;) My approach at the moment is that the missile would be something similar tothe current in-bound warhead (Patriot) and satellite killer type (cluster bomb spreading a number of bomblets in all directions (ala shotgun) and knowing Straker the warheads would be nuclear... ). Guidance would include star trackers, Infra-red and maybe even laser (again I will have to speculate about how much the Utronic detection system (from Identified) would come into play here) for location linked to an inertial guidance system - GPS not being available in the UFO 1980's, but maybe that's something SHADO would definitely have chosen given the choice for pin-point location of UFO's on Earth and in orbit. Initial ejection from the Interceptor would probably use current in-space satellite launch technology (zero - or next to zero) momentum spring launch, then a hydrazine boost rocket with hydrazine powered guidance thrusters. So current spec is:- Guidance - Star trackers linked to inertial guidance system controlling hydrazine thrusters - Infra-red/Multi-spectrum sensors - Utronic guidance (from 'Identified' and mentioned in the UFO novel) Ejection - (zero - or next to zero) momentum spring launch Propulsion - Hydrazine rocket motor Warhead - A number? of nuclear bomblets (I was thinking 16) - Impact chaff (very messy, but would stop - Maybe even an EMP device??? If you should be interested in my work, my company website is: http://www.griffwason.com But the style I'll probably adopt is probably oneof the following (ghosted cutaways etc.), but in a very SHADO design style. Below are some examples:- http://www.griffwason.com/gw_pages/electric_motor10.htm http://www.griffwason.com/gw_pages/glw_linksys_wireless-g_card1.htm http://www.griffwason.com/gw_pages/glw-mri_scanner1.htm http://www.griffwason.com/gw_pages/gwai_scicalc1.htm I suppose one important question is: should I stick to UFO type technology (1969) or should I use current technology, and presume that like lost 'Black Project' technologies, they are publicized as much as 10-15 years after. I reckon so much of the technology used in SHADO is futuristic I don't see why I couldn't use present day technology... At the moment, I haven't decided what to do with the finished result, but will probably make them available as a hi-res PDF. Format will be either A3 or A2 (that's B+ size to some) Thanks in anticipation Best to all, Griff |
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> To help me do this, I am looking for close-up photos of the Interceptor and
> Missile to show as much detail as possible from the original models. I already > have accurate dimensional information. A while back someone on the list had > links to a number of photos (from many angles) of one of the original UFO > Interceptors taken at a convention. I'm not sure you can trust the convention photos -- I think all of the "original" models have had restoration work done on them, and they may not look exactly the same as they did back in 1969. My website has a high-res photo of the Interceptor taken while the show was being filmed: http://ufoseries.com/hardware/interceptors-X.jpg Compare this to a photo I took at the Fanderson convention 5 years ago: http://ufoseries.com/models/c21LgInterceptor.jpg The missile looks somewhat different to me. Marc |
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Thanks Marc,
Yes, I had noticed many changes as well, but thanks for that comparison. I will try to work as much as possible from the original series (I have software that can interpolate imagery to a much higher degree from the DVD's) but I think I will have to take a certain amount of artistic licence here... Best, Griff -----Original Message----- I'm not sure you can trust the convention photos -- I think all of the "original" models have had restoration work done on them, and they may not look exactly the same as they did back in 1969. My website has a high-res photo of the Interceptor taken while the show was being filmed: http://ufoseries.com/hardware/interceptors-X.jpg Compare this to a photo I took at the Fanderson convention 5 years ago: http://ufoseries.com/models/c21LgInterceptor.jpg The missile looks somewhat different to me. Marc |
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Hi Marc and All :)
Do you have any theories about how the Interceptor Missile is ejected? And,also then also what form of propulsion would be most likely. As I mentioned, I reckon it would be sprung launched, then probably Hydrazine rocket powered, also using Hydrazine as reaction thrusters. I have had a problem trying to work out whether the Interceptor aims itself bodily (with the missile) at the UFO, fires and them hopes it hits. Or, whether the missile is aimed roughly in the direction of the UFO and then the built-in intelligence withthe missile 'takes over'... Any ideas? Best, Griff -----Original Message----- I'm not sure you can trust the convention photos -- I think all of the "original" models have had restoration work done on them, and they may not look exactly the same as they did back in 1969. My website has a high-res photo of the Interceptor taken while the show was being filmed: http://ufoseries.com/hardware/interceptors-X.jpg Compare this to a photo I took at the Fanderson convention 5 years ago: http://ufoseries.com/models/c21LgInterceptor.jpg The missile looks somewhat different to me. Marc |
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