Hi from a newbie

Hello All,

I'm a newbie on this group and I thought I would introduce myself. I've been into UFO since the early seventies, and I've just completed the DVD set and have started re watching them, brings back a lot of memories. This series was a very big part of my youth and I collected all the books, gum cards, dinky toys etc, which is significantly some of the only remaining stuff I have from my childhood – must have felt the need to keep it. It's great to watch it again and actually understand a lot of it, as I never did as a kid!
I was wondering if someone could help me with a few queries regarding the series:-
1. Transmission dates. I used to watch UFO on what I think must have been the first or second re runs – 11.10 on a Sunday AM on Anglia TV, then 2.10 on Sunday afternoon for Midlands. We could get both in our area. This would have been in the early to mid 1970's, I guess between 1973 and 1976 but does anyone have the exact dates? I missed this first transmissions in 1970 1971 as I was only 3 or 4 at the time!
2. I wish I had found this group 10 years ago – I notice that there have been a few conventions. Are any more planned? Are they advertised on this group? Do you have to join Fanderson to attend?
3. My favourites of the series were of course Straker (leader), Foster (hero), and Lt's Barry and Ellis (since I am male!). I checked up on a few of the actors on Wikipedia the other day and noticed to my great sadness that a number had passed away, but it seems that Dolores Mantez and Gabrielle Drake are still going strong – I wondered if anyone on the group could get me a signed photo (such as you get at conventions) from them. Please note I'm not a stalker or fishing for personal info, and happy just for someone to act as an intermediary as I respect everyone's privacy and will of course cover any costs involved.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help with the above.
Regards.
Gordon Shaw
Hampton, London.

> I'm a newbie on this group and I thought I would introduce myself.

Welcome to SHADO, Gordon!

> 1. Transmission dates.   I guess between 1973 and 1976 but does anyone have the exact dates?

Generally people only keep track of the original transmission dates (you can probably find the
1970 - 71 dates online, or in the book "Complete Book of UFO").  Otherwise, you need to
find a source of old TV listings (someone here once pointed out such a thing for the USA)

> 2. I wish I had found this group 10 years ago – I notice that there have been a few conventions.
> Are any more planned? Are they advertised on this group? Do you have to join Fanderson to attend?

The UFO presence at conventions has certainly dwindled in recent years... and there are very
few original cast members and production crew still alive.  That said, Fanderson does occasionally
have conventions (I don't know when the next one is?),  the Italian Section of SHADO still
invites guest over to Milan, Italy (they had such an event recently).  In the US, the closest thing
they have is Space:1999 conventions (one planned for September this year).

> I wondered if anyone on the group could get me a signed photo (such as you get at conventions)

Don't know if anyone here can help with that?  Any convention visits planned for Dolores
or Gabrielle?  Maybe Gabrielle is performing at the theatre in the near future?

FAB Gear can sell you a (generic) autographed photo of Antonia Ellis -- at least, I think
they still have these.  She signed a bunch of these when she was a Comic Con 8 years
ago.

Marc

On 31/07/2012 21:17, Gordon wrote:
          Hello Gordon......Welcome.

       As an avid fan of UFO,watching the series  in the Midlands area
at the time,I can tell you that as far as the
       Midlands is concerned,the re-run started on Sunday 30th December
1973 until around May 1974.I say around         May 1974 because it then
changed to a late Saturday night slot in order to show the more adult
episodes.The end     of that run co-incided with the start of the 1974
World Cup in Munich in June.
      The time of transmission for Sunday was Lunchtime,normally around
1.15.It was usually,at least to start with,
       preceded by Weekend World introduced at the time by Peter Jay and
laterly by the American family cartoon Wait      Till Your Father Gets
Home.It was followed by Star Soccer.
     The Anglian episodes overlapped with the Midland episodes.I am not
sure exactly how the overlap occured,but I can check,as I have a lot of
old TV TImes from that time.

Regards    Mark UK


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Gordon's recollections for Anglia are very accurate. Most of the episodes were repeated in the early months of 1974 on Sunday mornings before switching to repeats late on Thursday nights in the summer of 1974 to complete the run. I couldn't find episode titles for two weeks but these were probably when Exposed and Ordeal were broadcast. I would presume Exposed was repeated second on 13th January with Ordeal probably on 7th April. Probably the only way of properly identifying these episodes would be to check an Anglia TV Times for those weeks or a local newspaper as national papers normally only list "UFO" when the episode was a repeat. Interestingly the late night repeats were almost all second block episodes which generally had more adult themes. 
 
Here is a list of the repeats on Anglia in 1974:
 
Anglia (Sunday unless stated)
Identified, 6
January 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm
Unknown episode,
13 January 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm
Conflict, 20
January 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm
A Question of
Priorities, 27 January 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm
ESP, 3 February
1974, 11.00am-12.00pm
The Sound of
Silence, 10 February 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm
Kill Straker!,
17 February 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm
Subsmash, 24
February 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm
Computer Affair,
3 March 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm
Confetti Check
A-OK, 10 March 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm 
Destruction, 17
March 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm
The Square
Triangle, 24 March 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm
Close Up, Sunday
31 March 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm
Unknown episode,
7 April 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm (same as London)
Survival, 14
April 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm
Flight Path, 21
April 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm
Dalotek Affair,
28 April, 11.00am-12.00pm
Court Martial, 5
May 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm
Reflections in
the Water, 12 May 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm
Cat with Ten
Lives, Thursday 4 July 1974, 11.00-11.55pm
Mindbender,
Thursday 11 July 1974, 11.00-11.55pm
The Man who Came
Back, Thursday 18 July 1974, 11.00-11.55pm
Timelash, 25
July 1974, 11.00-11.55pm
The
Responsibility Seat, 1 August 1974, 11.00-11.55pm
The Long Sleep,
Thursday 12September 1974,
11.00-11.55pm
The Psychobombs, Thursday 26September 1974, 11.00-11.55pm
 No record for Exposed or
Ordeal – probably shown on either of 13th January or 6th April.
 
It would be useful to have a wider list of repeats as these were the way many viewers - especially younger ones - first saw the show. Although I did see the show on its first broadcast I was too young to have any proper memory of it. I do remember seeing repeats on Sunday afternoons in the Granada area around 1976 - for some reason my abiding memory is of the closing titles, not any details from the stories or even the opening titles and music. I know I really enjoyed the show but the closing titles made the really big impression and I still find them very powerful today.
 
AB
 
 

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 From: Mark Davies <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2012, 7:36
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Hi from a newbie
 

 
   
 
On 31/07/2012 21:17, Gordon wrote:
Hello Gordon......Welcome.

As an avid fan of UFO,watching the series  in the Midlands area
at the time,I can tell you that as far as the
Midlands is concerned,the re-run started on Sunday 30th December
1973 until around May 1974.I say around         May 1974 because it then
changed to a late Saturday night slot in order to show the more adult
episodes.The end     of that run co-incided with the start of the 1974
World Cup in Munich in June.
The time of transmission for Sunday was Lunchtime,normally around
1.15.It was usually,at least to start with,
preceded by Weekend World introduced at the time by Peter Jay and
laterly by the American family cartoon Wait      Till Your Father Gets
Home.It was followed by Star Soccer.
The Anglian episodes overlapped with the Midland episodes.I am not
sure exactly how the overlap occured,but I can check,as I have a lot of
old TV TImes from that time.

Regards    Mark UK

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Hey Gordon,
To add to Mark's comment about old TV Times; http://www.vinmag.com/ might well have some copies (& Look-In's) from that time in stock.Of course, it's going to be a hit-and-miss as to whether they have the right date & region.
I don't know about any autographed photos either, but a good place to start for a photo collection is http://www.moviemarket.com/UFO__T100366_1/?no_thumbs=30 which has over 50 U.F.O. bog-standard pictures available at various sizes.
Regards,
Simon.

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On August  1, Alan Briscoe <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Here is a list of the repeats on Anglia in 1974:
>  
> Anglia (Sunday unless stated)
> Identified, 6 January 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm

Wow, where did you find all these broadcast dates & times?

Marc

> I don't know about any autographed photos either, but a good place to start
> for a photo collection is http://www.moviemarket.com/UFO__T100366_1/?no_thumbs=30 
> which has over 50 U.F.O. bog-standard pictures available at various sizes.

eBay is also a good place to look for autographed photos (plus any other UFO
collectable, for that matter).  Although I thought Gordon was looking for an
autograph that was specifically addressed to him?  Which means he would
need to find a contact address for the actors or find someone in contact
with the actors.

Marc

Hello Marc,
 
I found the details when checking through old copies of the UK listings magazine TV Times. There are newspaper archives and some of these can be accessed online by members of many UK libraries but they don't generally give episode titles for repeats unlike the TV Times. However those archives would still be useful to check which channels were showing UFO and on what dates and time slots and that is something I intend to check at some point. For example I spotted a repeat of UFO on 11th March 1977 just browsing through one of the archives. I think the deal at the time in the UK was that each channel was allowed to repeat the show twice. The repeats seemed to stop in 1977 before the show was returned in most (maybe all) UK regions from 1986 onwards. I always wished to see the show again but I remember thinking it would never be repeated after 1980 because of the date in the titles - thankfully I was wrong!
 
AB
 

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 From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2012, 17:21
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Hi from a newbie
 

 
   
 
On August  1, Alan Briscoe <mailto:alanbnew%40yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Here is a list of the repeats on Anglia in 1974:
>  
> Anglia (Sunday unless stated)
> Identified, 6 January 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm

Wow, where did you find all these broadcast dates & times?

Marc
   
     

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I can add some information to this topic.

My information starts in 1974 when a change of programme announcement on Granada TV (UK) flashed on the screen - this change was to be a UFO episode at 11pm. (It was a school night and had to ask if I could watch it !)
This was to be the first of many that I recorded on cassette tape and also logged the date of screening.

1974 date.
??.11.74. The man who came back.
1975 dates.
13.03.75. The responsibility seat.
20.03.75. The cat with ten lives.
12.08.75. Identified.
22.08.75. Exposed.
29.08.75. Conflict.
1976 dates
16.05.76. A question of priorities.
23.05.76. E.S.P.
30.05.76. Sound of silence.
06.06.76. Kill Straker!
13.06.76. Sub-Smash.
20.06.76. Computer affair.
27.06.76. Confetti check A-OK.
04.07.76. Destruction.
11.07.76. Square triangle.
18.07.76. Close up.
25.07.76. Ordeal.
01.08.76. Survival.
08.08.76. Flight path.
15.08.76. Reflections in the water.
22.08.76. The Dalotek affair.
29.08.76. Court martial.
03.09.76. Time lash.
17.09.76. The cat with ten lives (again!)
1977 date.
08.01.77. Mindbenders.

'The Psychobombs' and 'The long sleep' didn't make it as a repeat during 1974 - 1976.

The break between 1975 and 1976 could have been due to Space 1999 being aired for the first time. All the above were published in Fanderson S.I.G. number 16, Autumn 1986. (and acredited to me)

If anyone is interested in the 1980's repeat dates in the Granada TV area I can post them at a later date. I did harass Granada TV to make sure they screened all the episodes in the 1980's which threw up 'The long sleep' aired at 3am! (I had never seen it before)

Regards
Keith

Yeah, 3AM is late (or rather early), but it was worth it, right? ;)

--- In [hidden email], "keith180361" <keith180361@...> wrote:

Excellent information Keith - I would have seen some of those 1970s Granada repeats. The episode titles are especially useful as these are often hard to track down. Interesting to have another memory confirmed - I had a vague impression of seeing a late night Saturday repeat listing for UFO early in 1977 but I wasn't able to see it and there it is in your records. I remember the 1986-1987 repeats really well and would welcome more details when you can post them. I recall them being around Sunday lunchtime and wasn't aware there were any late night repeats.
 
Well done for encouraging Granada to show them all. At that time I hadn't heard of Fanderson or seen an episode guide so had no idea of which episodes had been broadcast - I was just delighted the show was back on TV. It raises the question of whether "The Long Sleep" was ever shown in the pre-satellite era outside a late-night slot. I know that the BBC repeated it during the daytime in the late 1990s but even that was edited for the very mild swearing when the bomb disposal expert finds he can't drill through the bomb casing.
 
AB
 

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 From: keith180361 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2012, 23:11
Subject: [SHADO] Re: UFO repeat dates
 

 
   
 
I can add some information to this topic.

My information starts in 1974 when a change of programme announcement on Granada TV (UK) flashed on the screen - this change was to be a UFO episode at 11pm. (It was a school night and had to ask if I could watch it !)
This was to be the first of many that I recorded on cassette tape and also logged the date of screening.

1974 date.
??.11.74. The man who came back.
1975 dates.
13.03.75. The responsibility seat.
20.03.75. The cat with ten lives.
12.08.75. Identified.
22.08.75. Exposed.
29.08.75. Conflict.
1976 dates
16.05.76. A question of priorities.
23.05.76. E.S.P.
30.05.76. Sound of silence.
06.06.76. Kill Straker!
13.06.76. Sub-Smash.
20.06.76. Computer affair.
27.06.76. Confetti check A-OK.
04.07.76. Destruction.
11.07.76. Square triangle.
18.07.76. Close up.
25.07.76. Ordeal.
01.08.76. Survival.
08.08.76. Flight path.
15.08.76. Reflections in the water.
22.08.76. The Dalotek affair.
29.08.76. Court martial.
03.09.76. Time lash.
17.09.76. The cat with ten lives (again!)
1977 date.
08.01.77. Mindbenders.

'The Psychobombs' and 'The long sleep' didn't make it as a repeat during 1974 - 1976.

The break between 1975 and 1976 could have been due to Space 1999 being aired for the first time. All the above were published in Fanderson S.I.G. number 16, Autumn 1986. (and acredited to me)

If anyone is interested in the 1980's repeat dates in the Granada TV area I can post them at a later date. I did harass Granada TV to make sure they screened all the episodes in the 1980's which threw up 'The long sleep' aired at 3am! (I had never seen it before)

Regards
Keith

   
     

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I've had access to the TV Times for Granada and that 'Man Who Came Back' was billed as 29/11/74 - Friday at half past midnight. I also noted the multiple billings for 'The Cat with Ten Lives' but I would put that down to a few changes to transmitted episodes. Granada used to do it quite a bit back then.

If the dates are of use to anyone I can post them here or email an .xls file
Cheers
Richard


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> 1974 date.
> ??.11.74. The man who came back.

> Regards
> Keith
>

Thanks Richard for pinning down that date and time for "The Man who Came Back" - half past midnight must have been about as late a start time as could occur in those days before 24 hour TV. I wonder if that start time was matched or even beaten by any of the other repeats in the 1970s? I would certainly welcome you posting dates when you have the opportunity.
 
AB
 

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To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2012, 23:36
Subject: [SHADO] Re: UFO repeat dates
 

 
   
 
I've had access to the TV Times for Granada and that 'Man Who Came Back' was billed as 29/11/74 - Friday at half past midnight. I also noted the multiple billings for 'The Cat with Ten Lives' but I would put that down to a few changes to transmitted episodes. Granada used to do it quite a bit back then.

If the dates are of use to anyone I can post them here or email an .xls file
Cheers
Richard

--- In mailto:SHADO%40yahoogroups.com, "keith180361" <keith180361@...> wrote:
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> 1974 date.
> ??.11.74. The man who came back.

> Regards
> Keith
>

   
     

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I seem to recall that UFO-at least in the Central region in the late 80`s showed the series at about 2 am in the morning of fridays,except for `The Long Sleep`-presumably because of its heavy use of drugs was shown at about 11 pm the previous thursday night.



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To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2012, 19:10
Subject: [SHADO] UFO repeat dates


 
Hello Marc,
 
I found the details when checking through old copies of the UK listings magazine TV Times. There are newspaper archives and some of these can be accessed online by members of many UK libraries but they don't generally give episode titles for repeats unlike the TV Times. However those archives would still be useful to check which channels were showing UFO and on what dates and time slots and that is something I intend to check at some point. For example I spotted a repeat of UFO on 11th March 1977 just browsing through one of the archives. I think the deal at the time in the UK was that each channel was allowed to repeat the show twice. The repeats seemed to stop in 1977 before the show was returned in most (maybe all) UK regions from 1986 onwards. I always wished to see the show again but I remember thinking it would never be repeated after 1980 because of the date in the titles - thankfully I was wrong!
 
AB


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From: Marc Martin <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2012, 17:21
Subject: Re: [SHADO] Hi from a newbie


 

On August 1, Alan Briscoe <mailto:alanbnew%40yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Here is a list of the repeats on Anglia in 1974:
>  
> Anglia (Sunday unless stated)
> Identified, 6 January 1974, 11.00am-12.00pm

Wow, where did you find all these broadcast dates & times?

Marc



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Yorkshire TV showed UFO (1969-70) definitely in the late '80s very late at night.  I recorded loads of them at the time and it was the first time I had seen them since I lived in the US circa 1972-3.

Rick

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as far as I was concerned I had not long had a video recorder,so I stayed up to `edit out` the adverts,but it was the first time that I could record them as well.



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Sent: Saturday, 4 August 2012, 15:39
Subject: Re: [SHADO] UFO repeat dates


 
Yorkshire TV showed UFO (1969-70) definitely in the late '80s very late at night. I recorded loads of them at the time and it was the first time I had seen them since I lived in the US circa 1972-3.

Rick

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On 31/07/2012 21:17, Gordon wrote:
          Hello Gordon......Welcome.

       As an avid fan of UFO,watching the series  in the Midlands area
at the time,I can tell you that as far as the
       Midlands is concerned,the re-run started on Sunday 30th December
1973 until around May 1974.I say around         May 1974 because it then
changed to a late Saturday night slot in order to show the more adult
episodes.The end     of that run co-incided with the start of the 1974
World Cup in Munich in June.
      The time of transmission for Sunday was Lunchtime,normally around
1.15.It was usually,at least to start with,
       preceded by Weekend World introduced at the time by Peter Jay and
laterly by the American family cartoon Wait      Till Your Father Gets
Home.It was followed by Star Soccer.
     The Anglian episodes overlapped with the Midland episodes.I am not
sure exactly how the overlap occured,but I can check,as I have a lot of
old TV TImes from that time.

Regards    Mark UK


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I've added my data on Granada screenings in Files > Granada Screening Dates as an .xls file for anyone who may be interested. Hope it helps someone's researches.

All titles were taken from TV Times, clearly they billed a few incorrectly - The Cat with 10 Lives for one.

Richard

--- In [hidden email], Alan Briscoe <alanbnew@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Richard for pinning down that date and time for "The Man who Came Back" - half past midnight must have been about as late a start time as could occur in those days before 24 hour TV. I wonder if that start time was matched or even beaten by any of the other repeats in the 1970s? I would certainly welcome you posting dates when you have the opportunity.
>  
> AB

An excellent resource showing a lot of research - many thanks for your efforts Richard.

AB 


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 From: richard650304 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2012, 15:39
Subject: [SHADO] Re: UFO repeat dates
 

 
I've added my data on Granada screenings in Files > Granada Screening Dates as an .xls file for anyone who may be interested. Hope it helps someone's researches.

All titles were taken from TV Times, clearly they billed a few incorrectly - The Cat with 10 Lives for one.

Richard

--- In [hidden email], Alan Briscoe <alanbnew@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Richard for pinning down that date and time for "The Man who Came Back" - half past midnight must have been about as late a start time as could occur in those days before 24 hour TV. I wonder if that start time was matched or even beaten by any of the other repeats in the 1970s? I would certainly welcome you posting dates when you have the opportunity.
>  
> AB


 

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Yes, I remember that... I had to record it on parents VCR. I remember The Sound Of Silence being on. Was not on British terrestial telly until Autumn 1996 on a Mon or Tues on BBC 2 (I think). I bought a special video and taped all of them on long play with every episode noted and when broadcasted... great days..




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