How did you discover ufoseries.com?

I think I finally put the pieces together, myself. With so much
information flying about it's often difficult to remember how you got
where on the internet.

Sometime after 1995 I discovered snopes.com and read about kidney
thieves. At the time I was working for a major industrial gas company's
engineering department, and being exposed to the uses of industrial
gases, I read of breathing liquids (interesting to me, as I am
asthmatic. Also, the 1989 movie The Abyss figured into things - I still
like this film).

My best guess is that I did a HotBot or AltaVista search on 'organ
stealing liquid breathing' and presto, Marc's site (before it had its
own domain name).

See you Sunday, Marc.

Paul

I could never buy the whole "liquid breathing" thing, as the density of liquids is hundreds of times that of air, and thus totally impractical. It's simply too damned difficult for the lungs to push and pull all that heavy viscous fluid in and out of all those tiny little brochioles and alveoli all the time.
Dave

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Subject: [SHADO] How did you discover ufoseries.com?


I think I finally put the pieces together, myself. With so much
information flying about it's often difficult to remember how you got
where on the internet.

Sometime after 1995 I discovered snopes.com and read about kidney
thieves. At the time I was working for a major industrial gas company's
engineering department, and being exposed to the uses of industrial
gases, I read of breathing liquids (interesting to me, as I am
asthmatic. Also, the 1989 movie The Abyss figured into things - I still
like this film).

My best guess is that I did a HotBot or AltaVista search on 'organ
stealing liquid breathing' and presto, Marc's site (before it had its
own domain name).

See you Sunday, Marc.

Paul





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Hi All :

How about:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_breathing

http://itotd.com/articles/559/breathing-liquid/

http://aboutfacts.net/Science2.htm

http://www.opa.medicine.arizona.edu/horizons/2000/fall/pg10.htm

I also remember hearing from a direct source that the USAF conducted a
series of tests, when volunteers were able to breathe super-oxegenated
fluids for a number of days, without any ill effect. The only problem
was the transition back to 'normal' breathing... sounds familiar????

Another reason why I love UFO

Best to all :)

Griff


> I could never buy the whole "liquid breathing" thing, as the density
of liquids is hundreds of times that of air, and thus totally
impractical. It's simply too damned difficult for the lungs to push
and pull all that heavy viscous fluid in and out of all those tiny
little brochioles and alveoli all the time.
> Dave

--- In [hidden email], "davrecon" <davrecon@...> wrote:
> I could never buy the whole "liquid breathing" thing, as the density
of liquids is hundreds of times that of air, and thus totally
impractical. It's simply too damned difficult for the lungs to push
and pull all that heavy viscous fluid in and out of all those tiny
little brochioles and alveoli all the time.
> Dave
>
Gerry Anderson apparently got the idea of the liquid-breathing Aliens
from real experiments performed in both America and Soviet Russia on
animals. Mice and dogs were immersed in hyper-oxygenated liquid and
remained alive and conscious. To answer your doubts, the lungs stopped
pumping altogether - the liquid in the aveolar sacs had enough oxygen
to diffuse solution to solution, as it were, directly into the aveolar
capilliaries.

Breathing - inhaling and exhaling air - is under control of the
posterior brainstem, which in turn has a sensor to detect blood gas
levels. If there's enough oxygen in the blood, the brainstem shuts off
breathing. This can be proven in a simple trick: if you breathe
forcibly for about 30 seconds (ie, hyperventilate), then hold your
breath, you'll find you don't even WANT to breath for some time!
Eventually, the blood oxygen is replaced with carbon dioxide, the
sensor in the brainstem trips, and breathing resumes.

If there is enough oxygen in the blood all the time, as in the
experiments - or the Aliens in their suits - then breathing never resumes.

After all, we all once spent nine months not breathing with fluid in
our lungs! :-)>

-Lionheart




> I could never buy the whole "liquid breathing" thing, as the density
of liquids is hundreds of times that of air, and thus totally
impractical. It's simply too damned difficult for the lungs to push
and pull all that heavy viscous fluid in and out of all those tiny
little brochioles and alveoli all the time. company's
> engineering department, and being exposed to the uses of industrial
> gases, I read of breathing liquids (interesting to me, as I am
> asthmatic. Also, the 1989 movie The Abyss figured into things - I
still

Like the post but,

The problem with that, is all that fluid in the lungs still
needs to be circulated, otherwise it just loads up with the
CO2, depletes of the oxygen, and just sits there, not
exchanging with the lungs anymore. It must be constantly
and regularly flushed out and replaced with a new fresh
charge of fluid in order to keep working.

I'm aware of the experiments, but if you read further
down in the articles, you'll see how they've found it
impractical for just the reasons stated. There is too
great a difficulty in flushing the lungs and keeping fresh
liquids circulated through them. It may work for medical
reasons where the patient is at rest or on a mechanical
circulator, but for an astronaut or pilot under any appreciable
working exertion, it becomes too impractical.

While in the uterus, we are supplied from a blood
exchange system directly from the mother. I don't see
the parallel.

Also, something else to think about, especially in
applying this to space travel -

How much more would a spacecraft weigh being flooded
with all this fluid? Far more than the benefits of the fluid
would justify.

Imagine a fighter pilot having to pull heavy gee's and
having to fight for breathing in & out all this heavy fluid
into his lungs.

How ungainly would it be walking around in a spacesuit
filled with this stuff. Even just flooding the helmet only
would be like walking around with about 32 pounds perched
ungainely around your head.

The plan might find applications in diving suits underwater,
but I simply don't see it in those other areas : (

Dave H


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From: thecatnz
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 8:58 PM
Subject: [SHADO] Re: How did you discover ufoseries.com?


--- In [hidden email], "davrecon" <davrecon@...> wrote:
> I could never buy the whole "liquid breathing" thing, as the density
of liquids is hundreds of times that of air, and thus totally
impractical. It's simply too damned difficult for the lungs to push
and pull all that heavy viscous fluid in and out of all those tiny
little brochioles and alveoli all the time.
> Dave
>
Gerry Anderson apparently got the idea of the liquid-breathing Aliens
from real experiments performed in both America and Soviet Russia on
animals. Mice and dogs were immersed in hyper-oxygenated liquid and
remained alive and conscious. To answer your doubts, the lungs stopped
pumping altogether - the liquid in the aveolar sacs had enough oxygen
to diffuse solution to solution, as it were, directly into the aveolar
capilliaries.

Breathing - inhaling and exhaling air - is under control of the
posterior brainstem, which in turn has a sensor to detect blood gas
levels. If there's enough oxygen in the blood, the brainstem shuts off
breathing. This can be proven in a simple trick: if you breathe
forcibly for about 30 seconds (ie, hyperventilate), then hold your
breath, you'll find you don't even WANT to breath for some time!
Eventually, the blood oxygen is replaced with carbon dioxide, the
sensor in the brainstem trips, and breathing resumes.

If there is enough oxygen in the blood all the time, as in the
experiments - or the Aliens in their suits - then breathing never resumes.

After all, we all once spent nine months not breathing with fluid in
our lungs! :-)>

-Lionheart

> I could never buy the whole "liquid breathing" thing, as the density
of liquids is hundreds of times that of air, and thus totally
impractical. It's simply too damned difficult for the lungs to push
and pull all that heavy viscous fluid in and out of all those tiny
little brochioles and alveoli all the time. company's
> engineering department, and being exposed to the uses of industrial
> gases, I read of breathing liquids (interesting to me, as I am
> asthmatic. Also, the 1989 movie The Abyss figured into things - I
still




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How did I discover ufoseries.com?

I'm a budding game designer for role-playing games and I was working on
a conversion (for fun) of the old computer game X-COM. I was needing
some more inspiration for additional material (depth) to flush out some
of my notes. So... why Google searching "UFO" and "undersea bases" I
came across the site.

George "Clay" Mitchell

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Do any of you experts know if a video game was ever
created based on the UFO series or the Captain Scarlet
Series?

Thanks,

Jim.












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There is a Playstation 2 game on Captain Scarlet.

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On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:43:34 -0700 (PDT)
James Williams <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Do any of you experts know if a video game was ever
> created based on the UFO series or the Captain Scarlet
> Series?
>

Hi James,

There was an old DOS game that was supposed to have been
inspired by UFO, I forget the name of it unfortunately,
but it certainly didn't refer to UFO specifically.

Never heard of a Captain Scarlet video game. Of course,
both of those programmes had their heyday before the
dawn of the video game.

However, I've just googled "Captain Scarlet video game",
and apparently there's a PS2 game of that name!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blast-Captain-Scarlet-PS2/dp/B000I0WXFM

James

There was SHADO: UFO Attack Skybase
built with FST - Flight Sim Toolkit.
I released two other games Moon and Marsbase.
 
SHADO had the ability to be either Sky1 or a UFO that attacked
skybase.
 
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The DOS game was called UFO Enemy Unknown in Europe and X-COM in the States.
There was also a game for the Magnavox Odyssey 2 that was called UFO. What
made it strange was that the game had nothing to do with the show, but the
font used on the game box was the font from the TV show and not the usual
Odyssey 2 font used on their game boxes

Marc


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Subject: Re: [SHADO] UFO/ Captain Scarlet Video Games???



On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:43:34 -0700 (PDT)
James Williams <jameswilliams100@ <mailto:jameswilliams100%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com> wrote:

> Do any of you experts know if a video game was ever
> created based on the UFO series or the Captain Scarlet
> Series?
>

Hi James,

There was an old DOS game that was supposed to have been
inspired by UFO, I forget the name of it unfortunately,
but it certainly didn't refer to UFO specifically.





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Hello:

There is a thread going around that the strange name
of this episode, coupled with its off-topic subject
matter, coupled with its unusual insertion in the
middle of the series and finally coupled with various
subliminal messages, indicate that Straker's first
wife was, with little doubt, an ALIEN.

Further, that his son, who was therefore half-alien,
was intentionally killed off in such a way as to "make
it look like an accident."

As I'm new to this forum, has this been disseminated
before? What are your thoughts?

I re-viewed the episode when I heard this and it seems
unmistakable- Straker was, temporarily, "married to
the enemy" so to speak.

Jim

















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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:19:31 -0700 (PDT)
James Williams <[hidden email]> wrote:

I'd have to say that this idea is unmitigated nonsense
to be completely honest.

James

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I'd have to say that this idea is unmitigated nonsense
to be completely honest.

James




I agree. If only for one logical reason. If she was, she never would have
left him (Spy). Not to mention that her parent's were very 1969 British Middle
Class types. Nope, No Conhead's from France in that plot. :-)

Wendy



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James Williams <[hidden email]> wrote:

> There is a thread going around that the strange name
> of this episode, coupled with its off-topic subject
> matter, coupled with its unusual insertion in the
> middle of the series and finally coupled with various
> subliminal messages, indicate that Straker's first
> wife was, with little doubt, an ALIEN.

I'm curious where you heard this idea suggested?
I don't believe such a thing has ever been suggested
here before.

I think CONFETTI CHECK-AOK (and also QUESTION OF
PRIORITIES) are very straightforward, and both
Straker's wife and son are 100% human.

Marc