IDENTIFIED

So Marc,

here is my episode-of-the-week commentary (I hope it is
interesting and not tooooo long :-)

"Identified" is a typical Introduction-Episode (IMHO); they
show as much hardware and people the story can bear and let us know
why the Aliens come to Earth. And that's well done, I think. Here
is what I have noticed:

* Have a look at the escort man when he phones: he can speak into the
phone but can obviously not hear a word because of the surrounding
noise - and his helmet over his ears :-)

* In some scenes the UFOs don't sound like the UFOs in further
episodes - maybe they use different types (the new UFO Mark II e.g. :)

* I find the shot of the UFO flying above the trees great!

* BTW, what the Hell are the UFOs firing with? It looks like a Laser
or some kind of a ray(gun) but can a ray of this kind produce such an
explosion on solid ground?

* The photo of the UFO (taken by Peter Carlin) looks like a painting
to me.

* Hey, Asheya's got knock-knees ;-)

* Ever wondered what's written on the file Asheya is carrying with
her? Well, simply HARLINGTON-STRAKER PRODUCTIONS.

* Those were the days when environment-consciousness was a foreign
word... When Straker gets out of his car he throws his cigar on the
ground! Bad Ed! Fie! Today you would be called a polluter ;-)

* In this ep it looks like that Freeman should be the humorous
playboy type in the series (but, as we all know, Foster took over
that part - although he was less humorous :-)
(Oops! I can see a glare in Yuchy's eyes... I'd better run...)

* Impractical: Straker's whole office moves down like a lift -
isn't that a little bit costly? Despite the fact that everyone
outside can see the room lifting down and can therefore start to
wonder why... 8-

* Hehe, Straker must begin learning politeness some time - now he is
blowing the ashes from his desk on Freeman's trouser! :-)

* Lt. Ford did his (first) mistake - and is lying too! He explains he
is "just over two years" with SHADO but he was in "Confetti Check A-
OK", and that was at least eight years ago! But otherwise, if Ford
hasn't made the mistake, whom should Straker explain (and that's
necessary for the viewer) how SHADO works? Himself? :-)

* Shane Rimmer stars as Bill, the Seagull X-Ray pilot; he was
obviously enticed away from the CIA - you can see him as CIA Agent
in "Confetti Check A-OK"!

* As far as I can remember SID was spoken by a british TV announcer.

* The "Daily Express" Virginia Lake is reading shows the headlines
"Moongold?" and "China an Russia in new border flare-up".

* Are they really able to know where the UFO will land (the North
Atlantic in this case) when the UFO is deep in space yet, heading
for Earth? Besides, couldn't the UFO change it's course at any
time?

* Speaking of hardware: I personally like Straker's car, the
Skydiver, the Moonbase and the Interceptors, especially when they
are lifting off like dragonflies! (A girl friend of mine take this
comparison - I think it fits.) And of course I like the mobiles
(Moon or Earth, doesn't matter) too! Oh, and SID 8-)

* The three explosions of the Interceptor rockets are obviously
faded in and out.

* Seen? They use "Scotch" tapes at SHADO ;-)

* Sky 1 shots two missiles toward the UFO but only one explodes.

* Guys, this Alien will come back! I know it, because the
hospitalized Alien is performed by Gito Santana who will take the
role again in "Survival" - and then we will shoot him
properly! ;-)

* "The rapid ageing of the Alien is certainly connected with the
reaction of Earth' atmosphere on the body" tells Dr. Shroeder
- but in later eps the only one which is harmed by Earth`
atmosphere are the UFOs... or did anyone remember a wrinkled Alien
in other eps?

* The funeral scene is missing in the German TV version but not in
the German Super-8 version! But otherwise the Super-8 version left
out the scene where Gay Ellis changes her clothes... :-(

So that's it! I hope I did my homework well and not too long :-)

CU Christian

Christian <[hidden email]> write:

> * Shane Rimmer stars as Bill, the Seagull X-Ray pilot; he was
> obviously enticed away from the CIA - you can see him as CIA Agent
> in "Confetti Check A-OK"!

and again as *Lt. Bill Johnson* and also *Alien in wood* in "Computer
Affair".

--
Angelo Finamore
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Amelia wrote:

> Hey! You're supposed to let SHADO win in those movies of yours
>this time!

Worry not, we will!

> What's with the blowing up of Shado aircraft? Grrrrrr.

Major apologies for that, it's just that there are less polyg..
Whoops!.. :)

(who suspects Kent, Dave, and Rob of being alien infiltrators on this
list)

Blimey, 'better take them dark glasses off then Lt.!

--
Rob

Christian wrote:

(IDENTIFIED)" is a typical Introduction-Episode (IMHO); they
> show as much hardware and people the story can bear and let us know
> why the Aliens come to Earth. And that's well done, I think. Here
> is what I have noticed:
>
> * Have a look at the escort man when he phones: he can speak into
the
> phone but can obviously not hear a word because of the surrounding
> noise - and his helmet over his ears :-)"

Double Blimey! This'll take days to 'mull-over' <g>!

Regards
--
Rob

Christian wrote:

> * Ever wondered what's written on the file Asheya is carrying with
> her? Well, simply HARLINGTON-STRAKER PRODUCTIONS.

Is that what it says?

> * Those were the days when environment-consciousness was a foreign
> word... When Straker gets out of his car he throws his cigar on the
> ground! Bad Ed! Fie! Today you would be called a polluter ;-)

Naughty boy ....

> * In this ep it looks like that Freeman should be the humorous
> playboy type in the series (but, as we all know, Foster took over
> that part - although he was less humorous :-)
> (Oops! I can see a glare in Yuchy's eyes... I'd better run...)

Ahem.

> * Impractical: Straker's whole office moves down like a lift -
> isn't that a little bit costly? Despite the fact that everyone
> outside can see the room lifting down and can therefore start to
> wonder why... 8-
>
> * Hehe, Straker must begin learning politeness some time - now he is
> blowing the ashes from his desk on Freeman's trouser! :-)

I LOVE THAT SCENE! That is so funny <snicker snort> It looks like maybe
it is not scripted either - George looks put out by it - LOL!

> * Seen? They use "Scotch" tapes at SHADO ;-)

Oh, yeah?

> * The funeral scene is missing in the German TV version but not in
> the German Super-8 version! But otherwise the Super-8 version left
> out the scene where Gay Ellis changes her clothes... :-(

You know, I finally got to see the clothes changing scene? It is sort of
choppy looking, isn't it? I saw the Quicktimte movie of it and thought
that choppiness was due to my slow puter, but it is actually like that
in the show! Wonder why?


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>You know, I finally got to see the clothes changing scene? It is sort of
>choppy looking, isn't it? I saw the Quicktimte movie of it and thought
>that choppiness was due to my slow puter, but it is actually like that
>in the show! Wonder why?

Probably to speed things up... in a 50 minute program, how much time
do you want to spend on Lt. Ellis changing her clothes?



I can just hear Steve saying, "all of it"... :-)

--
Marc Martin, [hidden email]

>So Marc,
>
> here is my episode-of-the-week commentary (I hope it is
>interesting and not tooooo long :-)

Excellent comments, Christian!

You certainly noticed some things that I've never noticed...

As for people being able to see Straker's office descending from the
outside, I always figured that he had one-way glass on his office
window.


Anyone else have more comments on IDENTIFIED? Since we're spending 2
weeks on each episode, you've still got a week remaining to watch &
comment!

--
Marc Martin, [hidden email]

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> > > * Hehe, Straker must begin learning politeness some time - now he is
> > > blowing the ashes from his desk on Freeman's trouser! :-)
> >
> > I LOVE THAT SCENE! That is so funny <snicker snort> It looks like
maybe
> > it is not scripted either - George looks put out by it - LOL!

It is a classic scene isn't it?

> I *think* that was intentional, to show off Straker's arrogance. After
all,
> when Alec comes in, he doesn't even bother to look up at first. (g)

Standard office politics at work, I think.

Sheila

Still UFO Crazy crazy crazy crrraaazzzzy!

In message <00ba01c07d02$e05ef520$0b27883e@pbncomputer>, Sheila Holton-
Brown <[hidden email]> writes

>
>> I *think* that was intentional, to show off Straker's arrogance. After
>all,
>> when Alec comes in, he doesn't even bother to look up at first. (g)
>
>Standard office politics at work, I think.
>

Yeah, that's for sure. Try working in my Stock Control Department and
you'll get a big dose of it.
--
Suzanne Sutherland
La Grande

Hi everybody! <waving>

I actually watched Identified last night! I like that episode. It does
show all the hardware involved in SHADO. And I must agree with Marc, the
scene at the beginning with Commander Straker driving up in his car, getting
out wearing those sun glasses, it is a "cool" scene:-) One question I
have in mind is what type of material is the dress Asheya wearing in her
walking scene? It looks kind of fuzzy. And what kind of documents do you
think she is carrying? Maybe it suppose to look like a script since she is
walking through the Harlington-Strakers studio.

I LOVE Miss Ealand! She is my idol! If they ever make UFO2 I WANT TO BE
MISS EALAND!!!!!!!

And another thing I noticed, is every time Straker said like "get Moonbase
for me," or "get Skydiver involved," it was always to Lt. Ford. And then
he fusses at the poor Lieutenant. I can easily see why Lt. Ford can make a
mistake.


Susan
[hidden email]


>

Rob and Amelia...
> > What's with the blowing up of Shado aircraft? Grrrrrr.
>
>Major apologies for that, it's just that there are less polyg.. Whoops!..
>:)
>
>(who suspects Kent, Dave, and Rob of being alien infiltrators on this list)
>
>Blimey, 'better take them dark glasses off then Lt.!


Dave, is this true? ...Dave?

Kent (cueing up Identified...)
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--- Marc Martin wrote:
>
> Probably to speed things up... in a 50 minute program, how much
> time do you want to spend on Lt. Ellis changing her clothes?
>
>
>
> I can just hear Steve saying, "all of it"... :-)
>

And? What's wrong with that? 8-))

> Excellent comments, Christian!
>
> You certainly noticed some things that I've never noticed...

Thanks, Marc! I took pains over it... hm, well, as a matter of
fact it wasn't a pain at all :-))

CU Christian

Ok, for what it's worth:

I agree with the general consensus that Identified does an excellent job
of introducing all the hardware, people, SHADO HQ and moonbase, however,
this episode was not the first one I ever saw! I saw it on its second
airing in 1973 and I was pleased as punch to see it at the time.

I watched this ep a few day's ago and one thing that I noticed that has
never registered before is in the very beginning when Peter and Leila
Carlin and friend are in the woods. I never realised that he was shot
by the alien. I suppose if they hadn't shot him then he would have been
abducted, too. But then we would have missed groovy hip-shakin' 'it's a
body' Captain Carlin, wouldn't we?

One of my favourite bits about this episode is when a very sleek,
svelte, and sexy Straker (complete with sunglasses) walks in Harlington-
Straker studios. He catches the eye of a pretty girl sitting in a chair
as he walks past her. Obviously, the girl has excellent taste. But the
throwing the cigarette butt on the ground as he enters the building is a
definite no-no.

Isn't Colonel Freeman a lecher in this episode? Gee whiz. In fact, I
remember Marc saying in a message last year that one of his scenes with
the reception secretary, Janice, was taken out. I'm rather glad about
that. Miss Ealand was very diplomatic when dealing with his 'advances'.
Had it been me, I would have said: "Awa an' go boil yer heid!"

Having said that, I think that there is a certain chemistry between him
and Colonel Lake. I don't retch when I see him 'doing his stuff' with
the passengers, in particular, with the lovely Virginia. I can
understand why George suggested Wanda reprise her role when he left the
show. I'm sure there is still many a fan-fic to be written about
Colonels' Freeman and Lake.

I'm not one for cigarette smoking but I have to say the use of smoke
rings in Identified was used to artistic effect. Straker blows a
perfect smoke ring in SHADO HQ and as it floats away with its shape
still intact, he barks "Get me Moonbase!". The camera then pans to the
circular shape of the moon. I find that quite arty. I bet that was
Sylvia's influence. I wonder how many takes it took Ed to do that? And
could he still do that today?;-)

And I promise not to mention Straker's bulge. Oops, there, I said it;-)

Ok, there are a few ideas for you.


--
Suzanne Sutherland
The Fat Fetuccine Mama

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Like everybody, I agree the introduction of the hardware is done
excellently.

Also, the scene transitions are done well such as Peter's sister scream
blending into the sound of the airplane carrying Straker and Henderson
coming in to land along with the transition from SHADO HQ to Moonbase.

I wonder how Carlin's sister's death was explained to the family? being
there is no body and they obviously don't tell them that she was a heart
donor for an alien.




Ron

In message <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] writes
>In a message dated 1/15/01 5:23:15 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>[hidden email] writes:
>
>> I can
>> understand why George suggested Wanda reprise her role when he left the
>> show.
> It's Ed Bishop who suggested Wanda replace George Sewell, and before
>women's lib. I don't think George Sewell had anything to do with it.

Hmmm, somewhere I read that it was George but then I could be wrong.
Whoever suggested her was certainly very forward-thinking. And I'm glad
she was recruited again:-)
>
><< I'm rather glad about
>that. Miss Ealand was very diplomatic when dealing with his 'advances'.>>
>
> Oh how could someone not love Alec? I always got the feeling there was a
>long tradition of Alec flirting with Ealand, and any other female in Shado
>and I would have liked to have seen that cut scene
>http://ufo.simplenet.com/character/freemanRecept-640.jpg

I always thought Alec was a really 'cool guy', very down to earth,
someone anybody (not just Straker) could turn to when the going got
rough and he would make life bearable again.
>
>However, I'd advise Alec to keep his day job and not try out for Romeo and
>Juliet. ; - D

Well, he might be good in A Midsummer Night's Dream;-)
--
Suzanne Sutherland
The Fat Fetuccine Mama

In message <004f01c07f65$97873960$[hidden email]>, Ron
DeMedeiros <[hidden email]> writes
>
>I wonder how Carlin's sister's death was explained to the family? being
>there is no body and they obviously don't tell them that she was a heart
>donor for an alien.

That would make a good fan-fic story;-) Hey Deborah, have you written
one that explains what was said to the Carlin Family?
--
SuzannEd Sutherland

I haven't written it - but most likely they were told that some remains were
found and identified via DNA. Capt Carlin would naturally be in on this
expalanation, telling his parents the body was so badly decomposed (all that
was left was some bones and hair) it would need to be a closed casket
funeral, if they were going to have a casket at all.
Since the ID was via DNA, no viewing of the body would have been necessary
and Capt. Carlin would have handled that with his parents anyway. The faked
autopsy report would indicate that cause of death was undetermined due to the
state of the body, but she had been dead from about the time she was declared
missing. This would also be put into the police file on the case, which would
have been classified originally as a kidnapping, now murder, without leads
as Peter's story was not credible and the only other witness was dead or
missing. Actually, Peter was lucky - since his sister and the woman with him
were dead or missing, he was the most likely suspect. Luckily for him, it's
hard to shoot yourself in the back and the slugs taken from him would have
matched those taken from the scene, which would have shown he was well away
from the shooter and it was non-standard ammunition.

Deborah R.

Suzanne Sutherland wrote: