Identified

So I am sitting here watching this episode on my PC, and I notice
that one of the space trackers calls Ellis, "Leftenant." Then
Waterman calls her "Lieutenant." Hmmm. Whatever, the shot of her
in the zip off outfit walking thru the orange/white tunnel has
a "2001" movie feel to me, doesn't it?

And what is Ford thinking- Straker is ripping his head off for
something and Ford stammers, "Uh, sorry, sometimes it's difficult.."

You'd say that to The Man? No.

You're absolutely right. Ever since I got my UFO DVDs, that scene of Ellis in the tunnel looked somehow 'familiar' for some reason, but I couldn't quite place it! Haven't watched 2001 in a long time, or I might have remembered.

As for Ford's response to Straker, I'd expect that from the guy that was the voice of Topo Gigio (the puppet mouse I always saw on the Ed Sullivan show). : )

Jeff

Brinke <[hidden email]> wrote:



So I am sitting here watching this episode on my PC, and I notice
that one of the space trackers calls Ellis, "Leftenant." Then
Waterman calls her "Lieutenant." Hmmm. Whatever, the shot of her
in the zip off outfit walking thru the orange/white tunnel has
a "2001" movie feel to me, doesn't it?

And what is Ford thinking- Straker is ripping his head off for
something and Ford stammers, "Uh, sorry, sometimes it's difficult.."

You'd say that to The Man? No.


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LUTERNANT? I've spent 46 years in the US, and don't recall anyone EVER pronouncing "lieutenant" as "luternant". We pronounce it as it looks. Even my friends in the Navy. : )

Jeff

"Hemmings, R.K." <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yeah, very 2001-esq! In the UK, how "lieutenant" is pronounced
depends on which of the armed forces you are talking about.
In the Royal Navy, it's pronounced "l'tenant" and in the Army
it's pronounced "leftenant". In the US Navy, it's pronounced
more like 'luternant'.

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--- Jeffrey Nelson <[hidden email]> wrote:

> LUTERNANT? I've spent 46 years in the US, and don't
> recall anyone EVER pronouncing "lieutenant" as
> "luternant". We pronounce it as it looks. Even my
> friends in the Navy. : )
>
> Jeff

Maybe to UK ears, that's just how we sound when we say
it, I suppose. But I've always been an Anglo-phile,
due to ancestry and affinity, and have always tended
to absorb accents from UK acquaintances by osmosis
(different ones, like Liverpool, London, etc.). Funny
thing I've discovered is that if you are affecting an
accurate Brit accent of some variety whilst asking
someone for something on the phone, such as tech
support, or ordering something online, Americans are
so much more polite to you.

In trying to bring things back to topic, I have a
question for anyone here: Is Ed Bishop an American
actor who just decided to make his acting career in
the UK, or a UK native who does a darn good American
accent?

~Jordan




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Hi Jordan,
Ed was born in Brooklyn :) His family moved to Peekskill. Then he moved to
the UK in I believe 1962...Correct me anybody if I am wrong. Amy


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P.S I am an American and am very proud to have had Ed over here in the first
place :0) He is a fine man as well as actor with a beautiful accent! Amy


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--- Jordan Moller <[hidden email]> wrote:
> In trying to bring things back to topic, I have a
> question for anyone here: Is Ed Bishop an American
> actor who just decided to make his acting career in
> the UK, or a UK native who does a darn good American
> accent?
>
>
Ed is an American who started his career in the UK,
came back to the USA briefly in the early 70s, and
went back to UK.

He attended Boston University and received a
Fullbright scholarship to attend the acting academy in
London, which led to his career starting in the UK.




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just curious... does anyone know what part of Brooklyn?

Bruce
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>
>
> Hi Jordan,
> Ed was born in Brooklyn :) His family moved to Peekskill. Then he moved
to

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 22:16:54 -0800 (PST)
Jeffrey Nelson <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> LUTERNANT? I've spent 46 years in the US, and don't recall anyone
> EVER pronouncing "lieutenant" as "luternant". We pronounce it as it
> looks. Even my friends in the Navy. : )

How it looks, really? "Lyurtenant"?

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"loo-ten-ent"

Actually, I always thought that the spelling lieutenant was some sort of an
import from british origins. I always wondered why we americans slid it from
leftenant to lieutenant. Is there an actual functional difference in the
ranks?

The UFO folks seemed to use them interchangeably.

Dave H.

Well, maybe not EXACTLY the way it looks. How's this:
Loo-ten-nant. Where do you keep getting an 'R' sound
from??? I don't see any.

Jeff

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On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:14:52 -0800 (PST)
Jeffrey Nelson <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> Well, maybe not EXACTLY the way it looks. How's this:
> Loo-ten-nant. Where do you keep getting an 'R' sound
> from??? I don't see any.
>

Hmm - maybe "lyuhtenant" would have been a better choice :D

Lol..well put there Amelia..:0) Hopefully one day he'll be in our neck of the
woods and we'll get to meet him! He and Jane are welcome to use my guest room
if they are ever in the area :0).....lol
.............Amy


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--- "Hemmings, R.K." <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Fair enough. To my British ears, the American
> accent
> does sound make it like 'luternant', and that's a
> fact! :)
> --
> Rob

This is interesting to me, in that as another
American, I can only hear it being pronounced (by an
American) as:

"Loo-ten-ant"

By UK friends as: "Lef-tennant"

and Deutchland friends as: "Loyt-nawnt"

Amazing how we can all hear the same thing completely
differently.

~Jordan




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Well heck, Rob. You know your ears better than I do. Who am I to argue? James hears it the same way. At least I know now he's not crazy, because you both hear it the same! : ) I promise to practice keeping that 'R' out of there, guys (how embarrassing).

Jeff

"Hemmings, R.K." <[hidden email]> wrote:

Jeffrey Nelson [mailto:[hidden email]] wrote:

> LUTERNANT? I've spent 46 years in the US, and don't recall
> anyone EVER pronouncing "lieutenant" as "luternant". We
> pronounce it as it looks. Even my friends in the Navy. : )

Fair enough. To my British ears, the American accent
does sound make it like 'luternant', and that's a fact! :)
--
Rob



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Ok James. You got me. Rob hears it the same way you do when an American says 'lieutenant'. I guess we'll (Americans) have to work on that! But only if Brits stop putting that extra 'i' in 'aluminum' (just kidding!).

Jeff

James Gibbon <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:14:52 -0800 (PST)
Jeffrey Nelson <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> Well, maybe not EXACTLY the way it looks. How's this:
> Loo-ten-nant. Where do you keep getting an 'R' sound
> from??? I don't see any.
>

Hmm - maybe "lyuhtenant" would have been a better choice :D



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