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Later Episodes

CaveatEmpter
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<< I'm sure that the necessary strings could have been
pulled to allow SHADO to take over a small part of the hospital.
I'm sure that hospitals do, in real life, have to hand over
security to a particular room to the police or the military from
time to time. >>

...and in walks Ed Straker, head of Harlington-Straker Film Studios. It must
be obvious to the hospital staff that some branch of the military has taken
over this room. Some hospital worker might be curious; a hospital worker who
is a movie buff might recognize Straker. I don't know why this part bothers
me so much. It just doesn't seem logical and it's contradictory to what
we've learned of SHADO Security in past episodes. If 'they' are willing to
kill Ed's wife to keep the SHADO secret, it seems they'd be more careful
about this kind of security.

I don't know why I can't get past this; I just can't.

As Amelia pointed out, there is some good characterization...but I just can't
get into it. Thank god for the 25 other eps. *smile*

Amelia writes:
<< (I didn't question the "Commander" business, Jackson says it out of
hearing distance of anyone else. >>

I'll have to check the tape to be sure but I thought he said it as they were
climbing the stairs and there were others around going up and down the
stairs. Then they stop at the top of the landing and stand there discussing
the case. I could be wrong, I'll have to check. However, I still hold to my
original opinion that Straker shouldn't have been there at all.

<< Ginny stays with him. >>
As Straker is leaving the hospital, Ginny walks outside and yells afer him,
"Commander!, Commander!" -- then she follows him to the garden.

I did like the way Ginny walked with him through the garden though, lending
her quiet support. Since I'm a devoted Straker/Ginny fan and I think they
make a lovely couple, I did really, really, like this scene. :) I wish I
could have liked the rest of the episode more.

Carol K
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James Gibbon-2
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>
> ...and in walks Ed Straker, head of Harlington-Straker Film
> Studios. It must be obvious to the hospital staff that some
> branch of the military has taken over this room. Some hospital
> worker might be curious; a hospital worker who

> is a movie buff might recognize Straker. I don't know why this
> part bothers me so much. It just doesn't seem logical and it's
> contradictory to what we've learned of SHADO Security in past
> episodes. If 'they' are willing to kill Ed's wife to keep the
> SHADO secret, it seems they'd be more careful about this kind of
> security.
>
> I don't know why I can't get past this; I just can't.
>

That's fair enough! And I hadn't considered the point about
Straker being recognisable as a film producer. I think he's
actually mildly famous - I think someone actually recognises
him in Psychobombs. Good point.


> As Amelia pointed out, there is some good characterization...but
> I just can't get into it. Thank god for the 25 other eps.
> *smile*
>

Well I'm a little surprised that you single this particular
episode out, because a lot of the other episodes have similar
flaws as well! Though I must admit that there is one episode
with a plot feature that really annoys me EVERY TIME and puts
me off watching it. But I won't say which one since I don't
want to rehash that particular argument again! It's not
Timelash though. :)

James
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cmcjthall
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In a message dated 9/10/00 12:24:06 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

<<
...and in walks Ed Straker, head of Harlington-Straker Film Studios. It
must
be obvious to the hospital staff that some branch of the military has taken
over this room. Some hospital worker might be curious; a hospital worker
who
is a movie buff might recognize Straker. >>A movie star might be recognized
but how many studio heads would you recognize?--LynC
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Deborah A Rorabaugh
Straker's name might be recognized by a film buff (and even that might not be
likely as his name might not show up very often on screen as an exec producer and
Straker isn't all that rare a name - do any of you remember the name of the
present CEO of Paramount?), but his face wouldn't be known - in Square Triangle,
the man made the connection between Straker and film because he saw the
Harlington-Straker sign as they drove in.

[hidden email] wrote:

> In a message dated 9/10/00 12:24:06 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> [hidden email] writes:
>
> <<
> ...and in walks Ed Straker, head of Harlington-Straker Film Studios. It
> must
> be obvious to the hospital staff that some branch of the military has taken
> over this room. Some hospital worker might be curious; a hospital worker
> who
> is a movie buff might recognize Straker. >>A movie star might be recognized
> but how many studio heads would you recognize?--LynC
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James Gibbon-2
Deborah A Rorabaugh wrote:
> Straker's name might be recognized by a film buff (and even that
> might not be likely as his name might not show up very often on
> screen as an exec producer and Straker isn't all that rare a name
> - do any of you remember the name of the present CEO of Paramount?),
> but his face wouldn't be known - in Square Triangle, the man made
> the connection between Straker and film because he saw the
> Harlington-Straker sign as they drove in.
>

I agree that in reality most members of the public don't recognise
film studio heads (directors are often a different matter of course),
but in Psychobombs, Straker is definitely recognised by the guy he
gives a lift to, and he doesn't seem to be surprised about it.

James
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Deborah A Rorabaugh
frankly, I didn't catch that - but then Clark was sent to to ambush
Straker - didn't Straker introduce himself - Clark guesses oil industry
and Straker says he's in film.

James Gibbon wrote:

> Deborah A Rorabaugh wrote:
> > Straker's name might be recognized by a film buff (and even that
> > might not be likely as his name might not show up very often on
> > screen as an exec producer and Straker isn't all that rare a name
> > - do any of you remember the name of the present CEO of Paramount?),
> > but his face wouldn't be known - in Square Triangle, the man made
> > the connection between Straker and film because he saw the
> > Harlington-Straker sign as they drove in.
> >
>
> I agree that in reality most members of the public don't recognise
> film studio heads (directors are often a different matter of course),
> but in Psychobombs, Straker is definitely recognised by the guy he
> gives a lift to, and he doesn't seem to be surprised about it.
>
> James
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James Gibbon-2
Deborah A Rorabaugh wrote:
> frankly, I didn't catch that - but then Clark was sent to to ambush
> Straker - didn't Straker introduce himself - Clark guesses oil industry
> and Straker says he's in film.
>

Hmm - you know it better than I do, so I may well be wrong about
that then. Apologies if so. I do seem to remember someone
recognising him and thought it was Psychobombs, but maybe it's the
Square Triangle bit you referred to earlier.

Regds
James
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cmcjthall
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In a message dated 9/11/00 10:24:20 AM US Eastern Standard Time, [hidden email]
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<<
I agree that in reality most members of the public don't recognize
film studio heads (directors are often a different matter of course),
but in Psychobombs, Straker is definitely recognized by the guy he
gives a lift to, and he doesn't seem to be surprised about it.

James
>>
In Psychobombs, he told Mr. Clark that he (Straker) was a film exec. Besides,
the aliens targeted Straker, so their "puppets" would have been told who he
was--LynC
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Deborah A Rorabaugh
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Since Catherine was in a coma for a long time, she would have been in a long-term
care facility (nursing home) rather than an acute care hospital. It may have even
been a facility chosen by her parents or close to their home so they could visit.

As to Straker, yes, his face and name would be familiar in the industry, but few
people outside the film and television business (or business in general) would
know much about him unless they looked for it.
In Square Triangle, Liz says something that indicates she knows Straker is a film
producer, but again, they were driven through the studio gates and probably saw
the signs, not to mention Straker's name on the main office door.

[hidden email] wrote:

> In a message dated 9/11/00 8:50:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [hidden email] writes:
>
> << frankly, I didn't catch that - but then Clark was sent to to ambush
> Straker - didn't Straker introduce himself - Clark guesses oil industry
> and Straker says he's in film. >>
> Yes, that's right.
>
> I believe Sherry Lansing is still the CEO of Paramount, or has that changed?
>
> I'd think Ed Straker had to make a few public appearances so that his name
> and face might be in the press. We know in the outside office there are some
> awards, so maybe Ed has to go eat the rubber chicken dinners and attend award
> shows, and attend industry meetings. I don't think he'd get away with not
> showing his face. Even he grudgingly admits he has to show his face up top
> sometimes. He bought that suit he shows off to Alec (I love that scene) for
> such an occasion. I think he hates it, but he does it, not to do it would
> draw suspicion, turn him into a Hughes type character. We know he goes
> through with the interview (at first) with Fraser, (for the glossy film
> magazines) and Alec reminds him "I'ts *you* he wants to interview"
>
> Besides, if someone heard him be called Commander, it's known that he was AF
> before he retired and took over the studio. I'm still inclined to think they
> put Catherine in a hospital with some sort of tie to Shado, like Mayland is,
> although why they just didn't put her in Mayland, I don't know.
> Amelia